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Clarste posted:I am extremely confused by Firebird Trance. Is it an entirely separate new ability you learn at 72, or does it replace Dreadwyrm Trance after you summon Demi-Bahamut? IE: Does it share a cooldown with DWT? The tooltips don't clarify this at all. Dreadwyrm turns into Firebird Trance and they have the same CD, there's some footage about that shows it.
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Control Volume posted:Looking through the scholar changes, it looks like theyre gutting fairy healing and DOTs in exchange for more instant potency, a better adlo shield, and dissipation not wasting GCDs. Oh and a chain stratagem nerf. Losing miasma and shadowflare sucks since juggling plates is half the fun of arcanist classes, bane sucked rear end for an entire expansion so who cares, and I think the idea with axing energy drain/the fairy stuff is forcing you to use dissipation and recitation more often embrace =/= all fairy healing if they were gutting fairy healing they wouldn't let you stack two whispering dawns on the party via seraph
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May 30, 2019 04:01
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Vitamean posted:pretty sure red mage ends up with a net negative number of buttons that's the red mage way by 7.0 it'll have veraether which will build and spend mana at once
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May 30, 2019 04:08
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There was more to the fairy nerf than just embrace my dudes
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May 30, 2019 04:09
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Control Volume posted:There was more to the fairy nerf than just embrace my dudes The only SCH heals that got nerfed were Embrace, Crit Adlo, and Fey Union, plus the extra 15s on Aetherflow. All fairy skills are now instant, meaning placement isn't as important since Lily can now cast while she's moving (although them being oGCDs now does lead to annoying clipping issues). None of this will significantly change how 2.0-4.5 content is healed, and SCH healing in 5.0 is looking absurdly strong by any metric.
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May 30, 2019 04:15
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Only thing I care about is that the music is amazing, and the boss fight song delivers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iDTaV8jTSs&t=920s
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May 30, 2019 04:16
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TheHeadSage posted:Only thing I care about is that the music is amazing, and the boss fight song delivers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iDTaV8jTSs&t=920s That slaps.
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May 30, 2019 04:23
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Ibblebibble posted:That slaps. and the regular battle theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cybC-bSw2U
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May 30, 2019 04:25
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Saigyouji posted:The only SCH heals that got nerfed were Embrace, Crit Adlo, and Fey Union, plus the extra 15s on Aetherflow. All fairy skills are now instant, meaning placement isn't as important since Lily can now cast while she's moving (although them being oGCDs now does lead to annoying clipping issues). None of this will significantly change how 2.0-4.5 content is healed, and SCH healing in 5.0 is looking absurdly strong by any metric. you can also spend fairy gauge on aoe healing now yeah, no idea where "gutted fairy healing" is coming from.
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Saigyouji posted:The only SCH heals that got nerfed were Embrace, Crit Adlo, and Fey Union, plus the extra 15s on Aetherflow. All fairy skills are now instant, meaning placement isn't as important since Lily can now cast while she's moving (although them being oGCDs now does lead to annoying clipping issues). None of this will significantly change how 2.0-4.5 content is healed, and SCH healing in 5.0 is looking absurdly strong by any metric. I was referencing rouse (which admittedly is just more embrace nerf) and fey covenant which was a pretty big damage reduction but yeah I guess if the fairy isnt as fiddly then that opens up a lot more space for imperfect players to get more fairy heals off
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May 30, 2019 04:38
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Anyways I guess they should bring miasma back then. Shadowflare can stay dead whatever
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May 30, 2019 04:39
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Honestly Rouse was kinda weird anyway once it stopped affecting Whispering Dawn. An ability that only exists to buff one specific ability in the game ends up feeling kinda pointless. (Also the Covenant loss is because every healer has partywide damage downs now.) Still kinda stupid that Seraph literally doesn't affect WD or FI at all though. Saigyouji fucked around with this message at 05:03 on May 30, 2019 |
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May 30, 2019 04:51
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TheHeadSage posted:Only thing I care about is that the music is amazing, and the boss fight song delivers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iDTaV8jTSs&t=920s That tank refuses to just sit still.
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May 30, 2019 05:02
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Blockhouse posted:and the regular battle theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cybC-bSw2U Is the music from the Job Actions video new? There is a part of it that starts at the end of the Monk part that I swear I've heard before.
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May 30, 2019 05:04
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Givin posted:Is the music from the Job Actions video new? There is a part of it that starts at the end of the Monk part that I swear I've heard before. What, the arpeggiating bit? That's the FF scales. Unless you're talking about that it's eScape remixed.
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May 30, 2019 05:40
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TheHeadSage posted:Only thing I care about is that the music is amazing, and the boss fight song delivers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iDTaV8jTSs&t=920s Is that just a Halicarnussus reskin?
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May 30, 2019 05:45
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Seems to me like 5.x is a stopgap expansion for healers to break the SCH/AST combo from being indisputably better (we'll see on that bit) and 6.x is going to bring in a widespread healer reform with a fourth healer that will be a real shake up. Which isn't any good for healers for the next 2.5 years really.
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May 30, 2019 06:10
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Captain Cappy posted:Is that just a Halicarnussus reskin? I don't know how to tell you this...
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Seems to me like 5.x is a stopgap expansion
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May 30, 2019 06:15
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Yeah they've definitely never done that before, multiple times
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May 30, 2019 06:16
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homeless snail posted:Yeah they've definitely never done that before, multiple times
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May 30, 2019 06:17
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Nessus posted:Elezen have extended life cycles so Alph and Alisaie are like 20 but haven't hit Elezen Puberty yet. I think the game timeline is very loosely 'real' time, i.e. ARR ended 4 years ago, HW ended 2 years ago, SB will have JUST ended when Shadowbringers launches. Elezens are only slightly longer lived than the other races, like 10 years at most. They're not traditional fantasy elves. Also any discussion about the passage of time is meaningless because it's canon that the Calamity always happened five years ago.
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May 30, 2019 06:18
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FactsAreUseless posted:I'm going to guess that Square aren't going to throw their hands up and say "welp, see you guys in 6.0" if the healer changes create problems. They can bring back things to try and fix it but radical changes are expansion level. They've absolutely done things to try and fix glaring issues in the past. Assize, the best ability in the game™, kept its damage though so I can dig it.
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May 30, 2019 06:18
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Looking at the healers changes and I'm REALLY excited for rando healers with insanely simplified dps rotations to still do zero dps.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Have they? Can you show me some places where Square have just said "no, no fixes this expansion?"
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FactsAreUseless posted:Have they? Can you show me some places where Square have just said "no, no fixes this expansion?" Dark Knight, Machinist, Monk, and Whm just this last expansion?
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May 30, 2019 06:20
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6.0's new jobs are going to be Chemist, Beastmaster and Machinist.
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Fister Roboto posted:Elezens are only slightly longer lived than the other races, like 10 years at most. They're not traditional fantasy elves. I think time is moving, just slowly. I think it's past six years now. It's moving slow enough they won't really need to think about aging up the Levellieurs til like 10.0 though. I still feel like we'll get a cata style "refresh ARR zones" expac at some point with a timeskip.
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May 30, 2019 06:32
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Clarste posted:I am extremely confused by Firebird Trance. Is it an entirely separate new ability you learn at 72, or does it replace Dreadwyrm Trance after you summon Demi-Bahamut? IE: Does it share a cooldown with DWT? The tooltips don't clarify this at all. It feels like FBT is gonna be in a kinda weird place until 80 because it (by all accounts) will replace DWT post-Bahamut but I don't think you can Deathflare out of it. Not sure how to feel about Phoenix being essentially a Bahamut reskin with a regen aura--couldn't they have buffed Phoenix's potencies or something? I get it's an overall damage increase since you'll in effect be able to Bahamut twice in a row but it's kinda uninspired to have Demi-Phoenix with the same actions as Demi-Bahamut. It's also a bit weird because Firebird Trance doesn't explicitly say it can't be put on a hotbar/replaces Dreadwyrm Trance, but it does seem to based on videos. Now, here's my problem: Firebird Trance replaces Ruin III with Fountain of Fire and Outburst with Brand of Purgatory. Problem is, unless I'm missing something, Fountain of Fire is actually a potency decrease from Ruin III on a target that has both dots + Ruination. Brand of Purgatory and Fountain of Fire have less potency than Ruin IV on single target (but a big potency increase in AoE) with two dots + Ruination. I feel like Fountain of Fire and Brand of Purgatory need some more potency from the numbers we're seeing right now (which is of course possible, just commenting on the info we have now).
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A Sometimes Food posted:I think time is moving, just slowly. I think it's past six years now. It's moving slow enough they won't really need to think about aging up the Levellieurs til like 10.0 though. I 100% believe this will never happen after all the horror stories from Cata's production
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Random thought I had: How viable/utterly stupid/borderline scam would it be to set up a party finder group to teach new players how to do Savage content, and during your explanation on mechanics I tell them how important every extra bit can and how it is important to bring some decent food item along for just that extra boost that might make the difference. And I just so happen to have a bunch extra that I would be willing to part with for just slightly above market board prices* since I am such a nice teacher who wants to make sure they can beat the raid. *Prices may have been from a point in time when they were higher, also not taking into account I might've just made them myself for way cheaper 
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If we ever need to revisit Eorzea with a time skip, let them redo the zones and have some sort of phasing. This game gives more than two shits about its story. A cata style skip would be awful.
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Blockhouse posted:I 100% believe this will never happen after all the horror stories from Cata's production It would be even more a clusterfuck in FF14 because of how integral the story is to the game. In WOW it doesn't matter because all the quests are just bear rear end collecting.
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Greader posted:Random thought I had: How viable/utterly stupid/borderline scam would it be to set up a party finder group to teach new players how to do Savage content, and during your explanation on mechanics I tell them how important every extra bit can and how it is important to bring some decent food item along for just that extra boost that might make the difference. And I just so happen to have a bunch extra that I would be willing to part with for just slightly above market board prices* since I am such a nice teacher who wants to make sure they can beat the raid.
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May 30, 2019 06:41
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ARR was already the cataclysm expansion.
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TheHeadSage posted:Only thing I care about is that the music is amazing, and the boss fight song delivers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iDTaV8jTSs&t=920s
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Greader posted:Random thought I had: How viable/utterly stupid/borderline scam would it be to set up a party finder group to teach new players how to do Savage content, and during your explanation on mechanics I tell them how important every extra bit can and how it is important to bring some decent food item along for just that extra boost that might make the difference. You can't trade with people in instances and anyone who has the wherewithal to do savage content is probably going to check MB prices anyway.
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Greader posted:Random thought I had: How viable/utterly stupid/borderline scam would it be to set up a party finder group to teach new players how to do Savage content, and during your explanation on mechanics I tell them how important every extra bit can and how it is important to bring some decent food item along for just that extra boost that might make the difference. And I just so happen to have a bunch extra that I would be willing to part with for just slightly above market board prices* since I am such a nice teacher who wants to make sure they can beat the raid. Instead of going through all this rigmarole why not just sell the food. Also I know there are some silly and lazy people who play this game but it would only take one person actually looking at the market board to price food instead of waiting for the party leader to teleport to them (???) to personally sell them food (?????) to sort of blow the lid on this. This plan sounds deeply dumb as well as sort of pointlessly mean.
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Gruckles posted:ARR was already the cataclysm expansion. Lmao for real
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SwissArmyDruid posted:What, the arpeggiating bit? That's the FF scales. Unless you're talking about that it's eScape remixed. Oh poo poo, I listened to it again and as soon as the paladin section came on and the lyrics started I got it. Thanks! No idea how I missed it.
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