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the unabonger
Jun 21, 2009
i accidentally empty quoted some poo poo and i didnt even mean to make a post

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The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

EasternBronze posted:

Sir, this is the China thread.

lol

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
imagine being the FBI agent assigned to watch Chinese art students and you just end up watching them watch lovely Chinese soap operas on Netflix all day

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:28 on Mar 23, 2021

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

dengists!!!!! dengists dengists dengists dengists!!!!!! a very real word that didn't exist until a year and a half ago!!!!!

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
i think it depends on how it's done. if you were associated with the chinese natsec apparatus in anyway a visit from the national police for an interview (read: not being thrown in an unmarked van) to discuss stuff is reasonable and i wouldn't begrudge the Chinese government at all for keeping tabs on americans with relations to the american security apparatus while they are in china

Trammel
Dec 31, 2007
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Venom Snake posted:

i wouldn't begrudge the Chinese government at all for keeping tabs on americans with relations to the american security apparatus while they are in china

American's (and all the other foreigners) already have to register with their local PSB to get their Registration Form of Temporary Residence on an annual basis, which collects all your information, your employer information + your landlords name, ID number & contact info.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/29/dont-say-we-didnt-warn-you---a-phrase-from-china-signals-the-trade-war-could-get-even-worse.html

quote:

The biggest Chinese newspaper explicitly warned the U.S. on Wednesday that China would cut off rare earth minerals as a countermeasure in the escalated trade battle, using an expression the publication has only used twice in history, both of which involved full-on wars.

“We advise the U.S. side not to underestimate the Chinese side’s ability to safeguard its development rights and interests. Don’t say we didn’t warn you!” the People’s Daily said in a commentary titled “United States, don’t underestimate China’s ability to strike back.” The publication is the official newspaper of the Communist Party of China.

The phrase “Don’t say we didn’t warn you” was only used two other times in history by the People’s Daily — in 1962 before China’s border war with India and ahead of the 1979 China-Vietnam War.

“Will rare earths become a counter weapon for China to hit back against the pressure the United States has put on for no reason at all? The answer is no mystery,” the paper said.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
When is China going to start selling T-bills?

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
China would shoot itself in the foot, once other countries pick up the slack on rare earth mining and processing there'd be no reason to go back to China once they reopen the doors. The only reason no one else is doing it is no one else has invested into the infrastructure

it would literally just be shuttering a currently extremely strong industry,

a total, irreversible, self own

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:28 on Mar 23, 2021

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Modest Mao posted:

China would shoot itself in the foot, once other countries pick up the slack on rare earth mining and processing there'd be no reason to go back to China once they reopen the doors. The only reason no one else is doing it is no one else has invested into the infrastructure

it would literally just be shuttering a currently extremely strong industry,

a total, irreversible, self own

I thought China had all/most of the rare earth minerals while the vast majority of the rest of the world was kinda poor in that regard? Or is it just that, as you say, they invested in extracting them while others didn't?

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:28 on Mar 23, 2021

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

it seems like it would be extremely difficult for anyone to invest the capital and build up sufficient capacity to compete with china, and its not like they'd stop mining/refining in the meantime :confused:

aussieland has mining companies but who else is competing on the necessary scale? not to mention that components made in the US with rare earths are going to be likely shipped back to china for manufacturing into a final product

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.

dirty lousy tramp posted:

I thought China had all/most of the rare earth minerals while the vast majority of the rest of the world was kinda poor in that regard? Or is it just that, as you say, they invested in extracting them while others didn't?

It's mostly the latter, yeah. They invested heavily into extraction and processing starting in the 1980s, so they flooded the market with cheap rare earths and ended up dominating it (keep in mind that this was around the time electronic devices started becoming commonplace). After that the situation for manufacturers who needed rare earths was that they could either wait a few years for someone else to spend a shitload of money opening new mines and building up processing capacity or they could just buy some from China right away. They did the latter, of course. :capitalism:

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Kassad posted:

It's mostly the latter, yeah. They invested heavily into extraction and processing starting in the 1980s, so they flooded the market with cheap rare earths and ended up dominating it (keep in mind that this was around the time electronic devices started becoming commonplace). After that the situation for manufacturers who needed rare earths was that they could either wait a few years for someone else to spend a shitload of money opening new mines and building up processing capacity or they could just buy some from China right away. They did the latter, of course. :capitalism:

incidentally this is why china will dominate 5g. they started work early and they use the cheaper, better wireless bands that the us has reserved for its military.

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

the only reason american telcos are eager for 5g is so they can further neglect all physical connectivity to the end user and end up having home internet access regulated under the even more lax wireless laws

:capitalism:

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I think I saw an article that there are concerns over 5g having problematic interactions with weather forecasting because the 24 Ghz frequency is close enough to the 23.8 Ghz range where water vapor is detected

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

R. Guyovich posted:

incidentally this is why china will dominate 5g. they started work early and they use the cheaper, better wireless bands that the us has reserved for its military.

What even is the point of 5G? Am I the only one who can live without streaming 4k porn on my 6'' devices?

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

genericnick posted:

What even is the point of 5G? Am I the only one who can live without streaming 4k porn on my 6'' devices?

in sane countries it means getting broadband-speed internet out to places without running fiber optic cable, which means universal internet access at very cheap rates.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

R. Guyovich posted:

in sane countries it means getting broadband-speed internet out to places without running fiber optic cable, which means universal internet access at very cheap rates.

There are tons of unrealistic expectations when it comes to 5G.

To get 5G to provide speeds that are significantly higher than what LTE can provide you need high frequencies, which only carry a signal over extremely short distances. So carriers will still need to build out fiber-optic networks. Which they aren't going to do in rural areas.

In a sane country, connecting all those households directly would still be the sane thing to do instead of doing another half-measure, if that at all.

Also, what American carriers like to do is to simply rebrand LTE to "5G", just like AT&T does now (and just like they did back when they rebranded HSPA+ as 4G). Consumer protection/truth in advertising doesn't exist in the US.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

R. Guyovich posted:

dengists!!!!! dengists dengists dengists dengists!!!!!! a very real word that didn't exist until a year and a half ago!!!!!

Wait are you being ironic here or are you serious

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


R. Guyovich posted:

dengists!!!!! dengists dengists dengists dengists!!!!!! a very real word that didn't exist until a year and a half ago!!!!!

deng xiaoping theory has been the foundation of the ccp for decades now

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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Bro Dad posted:

deng xiaoping theory has been the foundation of the ccp for decades now

for more facts like these, remember to subscribe to my newsletter at r.guyovich@clownpenis.fart

actually marxism-leninism has, considering its place as the first entry in the theoretical line. "dengism" is not a distinct school of marxism and the only people who think it is are online maoists building camps in the florida swamps.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

imagine looking at that and thinking "heh, this guy doesn't know about deng xiaoping theory." imagine having that dumbass thought rattling around your empty loving head

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


R. Guyovich posted:

actually marxism-leninism has, considering its place as the first entry in the theoretical line. "dengism" is not a distinct school of marxism and the only people who think it is are online maoists building camps in the florida swamps.

R. Guyovich posted:

imagine looking at that and thinking "heh, this guy doesn't know about deng xiaoping theory." imagine having that dumbass thought rattling around your empty loving head

lol

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


love how mad you get trying to defend poo poo you dont know anything about

tino
Jun 4, 2018

by Smythe
Black cat white cat is in Chinese constitution. It's known.

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


how DARE you insult xi dada. no i am NOT crying

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Bro Dad posted:

love how mad you get trying to defend poo poo you dont know anything about

please summarize what specific points of deng xiaoping theory make it distinct enough from marxism-leninism or mao zedong thought to be its own school with its own "ism."

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

cessation of the class struggle under socialism is not a new concept and was adapted from soviet theory. the socialist essence theory, four modernizations and four cardinal principles are not exceptional deviations either. come on. you know so much, lay it all out for me, the idiot.

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


R. Guyovich posted:

please summarize what specific points of deng xiaoping theory make it distinct enough from marxism-leninism or mao zedong thought to be its own school with its own "ism."

Also keep in mind that RGuy will only accept answers that contain the phrase "black mirror" somewhere in them.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Known Lecher posted:

Also keep in mind that RGuy will only accept answers that contain the phrase "black mirror" somewhere in them.

go back to d&d

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


poo poo I get all the China threads mixed up except the sexpat one.

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


glad meltdown may had one last surprise in store

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Known Lecher posted:

poo poo I get all the China threads mixed up except the sexpat one.

easy mistake to make. this is the one that's only half gigantic morons instead of entirely gigantic morons.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

hmmm, how to avoid being called out on my bullshit...i know, i'll say it's meltdown may! this always works!

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


R. Guyovich posted:

hmmm, how to avoid being called out on my bullshit...i know, i'll say it's meltdown may! this always works!

you have a bunch of replies on the same page with lots of exclamation points and histronic language because you saw the word "dengist" and took it as a personal attack

so yeah

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

i notice you haven't answered the question. strange

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Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


i already did. youre freaking out over the use of a suffix because youre the last person on earth who thinks the ccp arent capitalist roaders

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