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Duzzy Funlop posted:Oh, I get it, you're just dense Sorry if i didnt notice your posts. Clearly I dont care half as much about you as you do about me.
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Opferwurst posted:The Soviet Union didn't really give a poo poo about stuff like that. Industrial and nuclear accidents were very frequent and most of them were covered up. You often only learned that you were exposed to dangerous materials after connected friends told you or you suspected after seeing that certain people started taking sudden vacations with their kids far away from the town. People drinking phenol contaminated tap water or get exposed to radiation after a release of nuclear material from the NPP is just how poo poo worked. Nobody cared. Yes, this happened in Pripyat. The "in the know" party members began bailing on the town way before evacuation was even a serious question
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How the gently caress did the writer of the Scary Movie and Hangover sequels end up writing this masterpiece? Talk about a turnaround.
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May 30, 2019 18:07
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theblackw0lf posted:How the gently caress did the writer of the Scary Movie and Hangover sequels end up writing this masterpiece? Excellent source material?
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Scary Movie and Hangover did exactly what they were supposed to do. Like them or don't, they were made with a clear goal and did what they set out to do.
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May 30, 2019 18:11
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theblackw0lf posted:How the gently caress did the writer of the Scary Movie and Hangover sequels end up writing this masterpiece? very carefully
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May 30, 2019 18:18
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theblackw0lf posted:How the gently caress did the writer of the Scary Movie and Hangover sequels end up writing this masterpiece? There's a difference between a good story and a good storyteller.
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May 30, 2019 18:42
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CainFortea posted:Scary Movie and Hangover did exactly what they were supposed to do. Like them or don't, they were made with a clear goal and did what they set out to do. If the goal of Scary Movie was to make a comedy he failed.
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You could probably make a captivating middle school play out of the events
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Despera posted:You could probably make a captivating middle school play out of the events I think it would be really easy to gently caress up the story. Mazin said in the podcast that it was a really thin line between showing what happened and coming of as gratuitous for example.
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Or it could be that, and get this guys cuz I know it's gonna blow your minds that it's possible... ...he just got better as a writer?  I mean, the research was thorough, the podcast shows he put a great deal of thought into each scene, he limited the number of episodes to make sure each is needed and not chewing up airtime and he personally went to Chernobyl himself to get a feeling of the place now after all these years. Whatever screwups he did before now...those things sound like stuff that a writer that cares a great deal about what he's writing would do. CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 20:12 on May 30, 2019 |
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theblackw0lf posted:How the gently caress did the writer of the Scary Movie and Hangover sequels end up writing this masterpiece? https://twitter.com/JasonDFW/status/1133838618437574658 he's got experience in watching disasters unfold
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Actual footage of the roof cleanup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti-WdTF2Qr8&t=298s
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CrazyLoon posted:I mean, the research was thorough, the podcast shows he put a great deal of thought into each scene, he limited the number of episodes to make sure each is needed and not chewing up airtime and he personally went to Chernobyl himself to get a feeling of the place now after all these years. Whatever screwups he did before now...those things sound like stuff that a writer that cares a great deal about what he's writing would do. it's not even necessarily a screwup to write a bad film that makes scads of money. screenwriters have bills to pay too, and you can spend lots of times just doing work to build your career while writing the script you really want to write. think about how many actors are out there in bad roles before they get something that nets them an oscar
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/JasonDFW/status/1133838618437574658 
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luxury handset posted:it's not even necessarily a screwup to write a bad film that makes scads of money. screenwriters have bills to pay too, and you can spend lots of times just doing work to build your career while writing the script you really want to write. think about how many actors are out there in bad roles before they get something that nets them an oscar Plus, the more experience you have netting studios money, the weightier your arguments get when you have to defend writing decisions to them.
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El Jeffe posted:Actual footage of the roof cleanup: Make sure to watch this. It’s actually insane how close it looks like the show.
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kaesarsosei posted:Make sure to watch this. It’s actually insane how close it looks like the show. Yea, they even got the overcast sky down. It's pretty fuckin good.
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May 30, 2019 22:01
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The miner bit was hilarious, throught the late night crisis would be the miners refusing to work or deciding to start mass brawl with the other teams. But nope they decided to strip down to work in the mining tunnel.
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etalian posted:The miner bit was hilarious, throught the late night crisis would be the miners refusing to work or deciding to start mass brawl with the other teams. Am I correct in that it turned out the mine underneath the reactor for the cooling system was never needed? That's a lot of people irradiated for nothing.
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Tab8715 posted:Am I correct in that it turned out the mine underneath the reactor for the cooling system was never needed? They didn't think it was for nothing. No one at the time thought it was for nothing, it was to avert millions of people getting irradiated. Just because it later turned out to not be needed doesn't mean it wasn't a good idea at the time.
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Tab8715 posted:Am I correct in that it turned out the mine underneath the reactor for the cooling system was never needed? It was unknown whether or not the corium would manage to melt through the concrete base pad. It turned out not to, but if it had it would have been bad enough to make the risk worth it.
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CainFortea posted:They didn't think it was for nothing. No one at the time thought it was for nothing, it was to avert millions of people getting irradiated. Just because it later turned out to not be needed doesn't mean it wasn't a good idea at the time. They just wanted to have nude miner guys with silly caps working in a radioactive tunnel.
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drunkill posted:A neat fanmade trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RW9NTBmb4U Yea, this was really good. I liked it.
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CainFortea posted:They didn't think it was for nothing. No one at the time thought it was for nothing, it was to avert millions of people getting irradiated. Just because it later turned out to not be needed doesn't mean it wasn't a good idea at the time. Good point, I didn't think of it that way.
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So all the way back on page 1, I posted that I was going to give this a watch and I finally got round to watching the first 2 episodes tonight. It is really loving good TV and everything but holy poo poo I was not prepared for how this would make me feel. To cut a long story short, I was in Tokyo when the Fukushima incident happened and was there for 2 weeks after the earthquake basically waiting for information about how bad the incident had gotten to be translated into the English news, all the while having the foreign news saying talking about people in Japan were potentially extremely hosed. I remember vividly, the feeling of Anxiety on one of the worst days in particular as I was taking the train into Shinjuku, looking at the city skyline and thinking, "Is this entire city already contaminated and we dont even know it". Episode 2 of this show really brought that feeling back strongly, watching the scientists talking about Iodine tablets and shutting the windows tight in some vain hope that it would help somehow. Luckily for everyone in that area, the news was being sensationalized but people at the time obviously taking it seriously, were literally starting to evacuate to Osaka from Tokyo out of fear, panic buying Iodine tablets. I really wasn't prepared watching this for all those feelings to just come flooding back. I am definitely going to carry on watching but this is definitely very brutal viewing.
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Opferwurst posted:The Soviet Union didn't really give a poo poo about stuff like that. Industrial and nuclear accidents were very frequent and most of them were covered up. This is the stuff that I always think about when people discuss the Soviet Union. Since they didn't have anything remotely resembling freedom of the press, there was a lot of stuff that they just suppressed, from accidents to large-scale events like they did/attempted with Chernobyl to freaking people. So when we talk about the Soviet Union, there's a lot about them we don't even know.
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Courtesy of a kind soul in the GBS thread.wa27 posted:Different scene but I got you:
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FiftySeven posted:So all the way back on page 1, I posted that I was going to give this a watch and I finally got round to watching the first 2 episodes tonight. It is really loving good TV and everything but holy poo poo I was not prepared for how this would make me feel. To cut a long story short, I was in Tokyo when the Fukushima incident happened and was there for 2 weeks after the earthquake basically waiting for information about how bad the incident had gotten to be translated into the English news, all the while having the foreign news saying talking about people in Japan were potentially extremely hosed. I remember vividly, the feeling of Anxiety on one of the worst days in particular as I was taking the train into Shinjuku, looking at the city skyline and thinking, "Is this entire city already contaminated and we dont even know it". Strap the gently caress in, rides not over yet.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:That's because if the spicy rock was giving out 12,000 Roentgen they'd need a whole other box for it, as 12k = ~112 Sv. Were the graphite chunks really giving out 112 Sv? I knew it was fatally high levels but yikes.
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Dick Jones posted:Were the graphite chunks really giving out 112 Sv? I knew it was fatally high levels but yikes. It's theoretically possible given that they were pieces of the core ejected during a period of high criticality. The first reading of the Elephant's Foot was ~10,000 Roentgen a few weeks after the disaster, so it's quite possible the freshly ejected "Spicy Rocks" were 12,000 or higher.
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The thing that always weirds me out isn't that the other reactors at the complex stayed active for so long, it's that the last one operational was reactor 3. Like, from photos of the site it looks like it's in the same loving building as the destroyed reactor 4. I'd have figured it would have had enough problems and damage from the disaster to be taken offline immediately, much less hang in there for 14 years.
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etalian posted:The miner bit was hilarious, throught the late night crisis would be the miners refusing to work or deciding to start mass brawl with the other teams. We're wearing the loving hats
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Bakanogami posted:The thing that always weirds me out isn't that the other reactors at the complex stayed active for so long, it's that the last one operational was reactor 3. Like, from photos of the site it looks like it's in the same loving building as the destroyed reactor 4. I'd have figured it would have had enough problems and damage from the disaster to be taken offline immediately, much less hang in there for 14 years. There's a really thick wall between them, but yeah, they shared the same ventilation stack and everything. Reactor 1 had had a partial meltdown a few years prior to 4 going ape. I think 2 had been damaged at some point as well
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FiftySeven posted:So all the way back on page 1, I posted that I was going to give this a watch and I finally got round to watching the first 2 episodes tonight. It is really loving good TV and everything but holy poo poo I was not prepared for how this would make me feel. To cut a long story short, I was in Tokyo when the Fukushima incident happened and was there for 2 weeks after the earthquake basically waiting for information about how bad the incident had gotten to be translated into the English news, all the while having the foreign news saying talking about people in Japan were potentially extremely hosed. I remember vividly, the feeling of Anxiety on one of the worst days in particular as I was taking the train into Shinjuku, looking at the city skyline and thinking, "Is this entire city already contaminated and we dont even know it". I was in Sendai. Iodine tablets loving suck 
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Eau de MacGowan posted:I was in Sendai. Iodine tablets loving suck We're you inserting them in the right end?
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SocketWrench posted:We're wearing the loving hats https://twitter.com/iresimpsonsfans/status/1134383248606453760?s=19
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After Chernobyl is finished and you need some more dread and nuclear disaster, the German show Dark starts its second season on Netflix two weeks later. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=810CHvSdXOo With some editing this could be a Chernobyl trailer. -Someone records a cassette tape -Geiger counter sound -Someone hangs themselves -A ruined nuclear reactor -'It will happen again' -Dead animals -People in radiation suits -Flashlights flickering and dying -The year 1986 features prominently -Someone picks up a black mineral rock
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drunkill posted:Close, our main man Boris Shcherbina is the Baron from the upcoming Dune (2020) 
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