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Question Time
Sep 12, 2010



Giovanni0109 posted:

Trip report on Karnage Chronicles. Having a lot of fun with the significant other playing this.

The introduction section is really good for helping a new player get setup and the hosting and connecting to do VR multiplayer is pretty painless. It's a VR dungeon crawler, and the environments we've seen so far are quite nice looking. We've done some Rec Room and Climbey before, but she's never really played an RPG / dungeon crawler game before and the fact that she's picking it up and enjoying it has been a lot of fun.

There are basically two classes, warrior and archer, with warrior having a sword/shield and crossbow (three shots at a time and then requires reloading) and archer having a dagger/tiny shield and bow (similar to other VR bow mechanics). You tend to depend more on ranged combat, so you choose your class more on that. It's not super deep of a game or anything yet, but it's been quite satisfying so far. Have others tried it out?


Hmm, I wonder how this compares to Karnage Chronicles.

I've played both with a friend. Karnage is a lot more polished, so I'd play it first, but Dungeon Knight is still good and worth playing once you've beaten Karnage. It also has more of a roguelike/procedural style vs the Blizzard-style themepark ride of Karnage.

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EdEddnEddy
Apr 5, 2012



Giovanni0109 posted:

Trip report on Karnage Chronicles. Having a lot of fun with the significant other playing this.

The introduction section is really good for helping a new player get setup and the hosting and connecting to do VR multiplayer is pretty painless. It's a VR dungeon crawler, and the environments we've seen so far are quite nice looking. We've done some Rec Room and Climbey before, but she's never really played an RPG / dungeon crawler game before and the fact that she's picking it up and enjoying it has been a lot of fun.

There are basically two classes, warrior and archer, with warrior having a sword/shield and crossbow (three shots at a time and then requires reloading) and archer having a dagger/tiny shield and bow (similar to other VR bow mechanics). You tend to depend more on ranged combat, so you choose your class more on that. It's not super deep of a game or anything yet, but it's been quite satisfying so far. Have others tried it out?


Hmm, I wonder how this compares to Karnage Chronicles.

Karnage is part of the bundle that I found with VR Dungeon Knight. I want to pick it up too eventually but VRDK was on sale and Karnage was not. Also VRDK just had an update not too long ago where Karnage's last update was in Feburary so that has a little bit of pull as well. Both look great though so I may pick up Karnage later too.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Anyone know of a decent laptop backpack that can cool a laptop running while inside it? My in-laws have a very large barn/garage that was amazing with the Quest this past weekend, and I'm imagining 1:1 scale Gorn now and can't stop. I've got a capable laptop and a Rift S so I just need a way to strap it to my body and keep it from overheating.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Are you any good at fabricating? I'm sure it's possible to build a bracket that holds onto a laptop and can attach to a rucksack frame.

Tom Guycot
Oct 15, 2008

Chief of Governors


Can most gaming laptops even run at full speed period while on battery power? I thought they all heavily throttled when not plugged in, to the point of making VR non viable?

8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

Tom Guycot posted:

Can most gaming laptops even run at full speed period while on battery power? I thought they all heavily throttled when not plugged in, to the point of making VR non viable?

That's likely a power management setting that can be disabled.

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer
Has anyone found a way to remove the annoying red dot that appears in your field of view when you are casting the screen from the Quest? I get why they need to show some of kind of indicator, but there has to be a less annoying way.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Just trying Obduction in VR is the first game that has ever made me feel like throwing up holy poo poo. :barf:

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Cojawfee posted:

Are you any good at fabricating? I'm sure it's possible to build a bracket that holds onto a laptop and can attach to a rucksack frame.

Hell, I'd imagine a frame with some foam padding and a few straps going across each way would be enough. :getin:

8one6 posted:

That's likely a power management setting that can be disabled.

Counting on this and maybe a usb-c battery pack if needed.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Enos Cabell posted:

Counting on this and maybe a usb-c battery pack if needed.

Just make sure everything is on the level, and it doesn't do something weird where the laptop starts charging the battery pack.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Another thing I'm counting on is the hdmi to dp adapter I ordered working. dgpu only outputs over hdmi on this laptop, so the usb-c to dp adapter didn't work with the Rift S. CV1 works fine on it though, so I'm hopeful that the adapter works with the S.

Tom Guycot
Oct 15, 2008

Chief of Governors


Enos Cabell posted:

Counting on this and maybe a usb-c battery pack if needed.


You haven't tried testing it yet?

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

SimonChris posted:

Has anyone found a way to remove the annoying red dot that appears in your field of view when you are casting the screen from the Quest? I get why they need to show some of kind of indicator, but there has to be a less annoying way.

If you broadcast to a computer using scrcpy (instructions for Go but works for Quest too https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusGo/comments/9kha4g/wireless_casting_from_oculus_go_to_pc/) it won't have the dot. No audio, though.

JHVH-1
Jun 28, 2002
Wonder if you plug audio into one of the jacks on the Quest if the other one gets disabled or they go in mono. For the Go people used a splitter to run headphones and stream/record at the same time.

EdEddnEddy
Apr 5, 2012



Enos Cabell posted:

Anyone know of a decent laptop backpack that can cool a laptop running while inside it? My in-laws have a very large barn/garage that was amazing with the Quest this past weekend, and I'm imagining 1:1 scale Gorn now and can't stop. I've got a capable laptop and a Rift S so I just need a way to strap it to my body and keep it from overheating.

This is where Wireless VR comes in handy. Hopefully TPCast is on the ball about getting a wireless adapter for it soonish.


A gaming laptop can go id say about 90% full tilt on battery, but may only last about 20-30 minutes tops.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Tom Guycot posted:

You haven't tried testing it yet?

Naw I'm waiting on an hdmi->dp adapter. I've tested the laptop with the CV1, but not on battery power yet.

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

JHVH-1 posted:

Wonder if you plug audio into one of the jacks on the Quest if the other one gets disabled or they go in mono. For the Go people used a splitter to run headphones and stream/record at the same time.

I think they go in stereo but I’ve seen some confused reddit posts by people not sure.
I use a Y splitter and a pair of Bluetooth audio bridges to bring the audio to my PC when I stream from my Quest. It’s kind of a major pain.

Tom Guycot
Oct 15, 2008

Chief of Governors


Enos Cabell posted:

Naw I'm waiting on an hdmi->dp adapter. I've tested the laptop with the CV1, but not on battery power yet.

I just mean, couldn't you throw on crysis or whatever while on battery power and see the FPS, while playing with power settings just to see if you can pull it off?

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Tom Guycot posted:

I just mean, couldn't you throw on crysis or whatever while on battery power and see the FPS, while playing with power settings just to see if you can pull it off?

Sure, it's just something I thought of trying literally this morning so haven't had a chance yet.

sethsez
Jul 14, 2006

He's soooo dreamy...

Nalin posted:

Convenience. Better bass. Not fully isolating. There are a bunch of reasons one might prefer open ear headphones. Those three are my big ones. If I had the option to have CV1 quality headphones, I would jump on it. That's actually one of the things holding me back from a Rift S.

For what it's worth, it's apparently quite easy to mod Koss PortaPros onto the Rift S with a couple 3D-printed clips that hold them in place the same as the CV1. They're the same drivers the CV1 used.

Tom Guycot
Oct 15, 2008

Chief of Governors


Theres a bunch of headphone holders people have been making for those koss ones. I've seen some better ones than the tested guy's where they're adjustable outwards, as well as a clever DIY setup for attaching the existing rift headphones to a quest: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3659608

EdEddnEddy
Apr 5, 2012



Thats kinda cool. Wish my Printer would print anywhere near accurate enough to print those though lol.

On that note though, has anyone tried the little earbuds that came with the OG Vive? Does the short cable reach one of the Quest ports and then to both your ears? I need to find mine before I can try and see.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Welp my RiftS laptop idea is dead, I get no video with the HDMI->DP adapter even though it finds the headset just fine during setup. Looking like any laptop will need to have a dgpu that outputs over dp for this to work.

e: oh well, streaming from laptop to Quest will be good enough. I guess this way the laptop will be able to be open for other people to watch anyway.

Enos Cabell fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Jun 1, 2019

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Anyone planning on swapping out their Vive Pro HMD for the Index? I'm kind of on the fence - I really like the Pro, but the Index seems to have better FOV and better panels and I'm going to be picking up the Index controllers regardless. The only thing giving me pause is that I kind of want to get the wireless adapter for the Pro and there does not seem to be a wireless option for the Index (yet).

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!
The Quest is a real neckbreaker. No amount of fitting tutorials make this feel very comfortable for me, and I always end up with a headache after about 15 mins. I've seen where people have added something like a battery pack as a counterweight on the back strap, but I'm skeptical that adding even more weight to this thing is going to solve my issue.

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...
The quest isn’t really that heavy, it’s the facial interface.

The quest is in the same weight as the OG Vive and Vive pro. ~570g, ~550g ~510g respectively. The index weighs over 600g and I don’t expect many people will be complaining about the weight.

Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010

Origami Dali posted:

The Quest is a real neckbreaker. No amount of fitting tutorials make this feel very comfortable for me, and I always end up with a headache after about 15 mins. I've seen where people have added something like a battery pack as a counterweight on the back strap, but I'm skeptical that adding even more weight to this thing is going to solve my issue.

I felt this way too and no amount of video ever helped me. Eventually I just figured out a good way of fitting. I basicaly undo the top strap and yank it fully loose. Then get a loose fit with the side straps. Adjust the back part of the strap to sit as low as possible on the back part of my head. The sides of the strap kinda run tucked behind my ear like glasses rims. Then I'll tighten reaaaaaaaly f'n tight. Hand adjust to sweet spot. Hold with one hand to keep sweet spot, and then crank down the top strap till the weight comes off my nose/face and rests more on my brow and along the top strap.

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider
I find the cloth on the face cover/gasket/whatever on the Quest to be annoyingly rough. Apparently VRCover.com was supposed to come out with a replacement but their site is sketchy as hell right now and looks like it was taken over by phishers or scammers or something.

e: Their site is fixed now.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

rage-saq posted:

The quest isn’t really that heavy, it’s the facial interface.

The quest is in the same weight as the OG Vive and Vive pro. ~570g

Yeah the weight doesn't really bother me all that much

The way it sits on my head causes the lower half of my cheeks and upper lip to sort of go numb

For all the flaws if the WMR headsets everyone seemed to universally like the welder's hat design as being extremely comfortable. Why are we still seeing ski goggle designs?

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

RandomBlue posted:

I find the cloth on the face cover/gasket/whatever on the Quest to be annoyingly rough. Apparently VRCover.com was supposed to come out with a replacement but their site is sketchy as hell right now and looks like it was taken over by phishers or scammers or something.

e: Their site is fixed now.

They also have an Amazon storefront.

JHVH-1
Jun 28, 2002

Hadlock posted:

Yeah the weight doesn't really bother me all that much

The way it sits on my head causes the lower half of my cheeks and upper lip to sort of go numb

For all the flaws if the WMR headsets everyone seemed to universally like the welder's hat design as being extremely comfortable. Why are we still seeing ski goggle designs?

It does make the whole thing a lot more portable and less fumbling around trying to find knobs and stuff all over. When I go back to the PSVR I have to remember where everything is again, and it uses up way more space to store.

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽
I must have some narrow eyes cause on the quest I need to move the slider all the way to the right for clarity, however the way the quest works it pushes it out against your nose which is painful so I need to set it a tad to the left which sucks :(

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



Tom Guycot posted:

Can most gaming laptops even run at full speed period while on battery power? I thought they all heavily throttled when not plugged in, to the point of making VR non viable?

Most gaming laptops will limit performance to 30fps to save on battery but if you disable it you're just going to devour the battery. It's not really a good idea. A lot of gaming laptops will barely get 4-5 hours, if not less, on battery power without running a game.

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

Harminoff posted:

I must have some narrow eyes cause on the quest I need to move the slider all the way to the right for clarity, however the way the quest works it pushes it out against your nose which is painful so I need to set it a tad to the left which sucks :(

Have you tried using the glasses insert to offset that so the lenses are farther from your nose?

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
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Origami Dali posted:

The Quest is a real neckbreaker. No amount of fitting tutorials make this feel very comfortable for me, and I always end up with a headache after about 15 mins. I've seen where people have added something like a battery pack as a counterweight on the back strap, but I'm skeptical that adding even more weight to this thing is going to solve my issue.

The battery counterweight helps a ton, I just did it today and I'm surprised at the difference. I'll post pics later, my setup is pretty sleek.

Harminoff posted:

I must have some narrow eyes cause on the quest I need to move the slider all the way to the right for clarity, however the way the quest works it pushes it out against your nose which is painful so I need to set it a tad to the left which sucks :(

Yeah I have to widen it slightly past ideal because I have IPD 59 and a huge honkin' schnozz. Again though, counterweight helps keep it off my beak a little better.

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽

RandomBlue posted:

Have you tried using the glasses insert to offset that so the lenses are farther from your nose?

I wear glasses so yeah :(

I need to get a battery pack anyway so I'll just have my friend 3d print a clip for it and see if using it as a counter weight on the back helps.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Hadlock posted:

Yeah the weight doesn't really bother me all that much

The way it sits on my head causes the lower half of my cheeks and upper lip to sort of go numb

For all the flaws if the WMR headsets everyone seemed to universally like the welder's hat design as being extremely comfortable. Why are we still seeing ski goggle designs?

welder hat designs aren't so good when you're flailing around a lot. they're perfect for slow stuff, but shake a lot if you turn your head quickly.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Truga posted:

welder hat designs aren't so good when you're flailing around a lot. they're perfect for slow stuff, but shake a lot if you turn your head quickly.

Also I personally think the general Halo design is a little too one-size-fits-all/nobody, if that makes sense. I know with my PSVR headset it never feels quite pperfectly aligned to me, because there's a lot of little ways it'll slip or adjust around your head and still feel relatively right. With the more ratcheted clamp-style ones, like the Vive's Deluxe Audio Strap, it just locks in snugly the same way every time and feels perfect.

Shoefish
Sep 29, 2005
captain haggis mcnipplesworthy
I find the rift s far more comfortable then the vive with das.

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Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
Well, this is embarrassing.

I am returning my Rift S tomorrow. Not because of anything wrong with it, mind, it is great. However, I live on the upper floor of an apartment building, and I am a fatty. Basically, when I started running around paying VR, my neighbors noticed.

They thought it was something with my AC unit, but I would not like to take chances (my apartment manager has yet to get back to me on time tables).
Still, I do like VR and I may go for it again someday, albeit with lower intensity games.

I was wondering about playstation VR. Does that have more games that can be played seated?

Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Jun 1, 2019

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