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the dudes in this game wear little armour because the expert chinese swordsmiths learned from the forgers of the japanese katana to fold their steel ten million times and render all armour useless against its monomolecular edge.
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SKULL.GIF posted:He's correct Yeah but all I said that sword damage seems fine in this game considering it's like 200AD and metallurgy being what it is
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May 31, 2019 22:45
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Fuligin posted:I glanced over and heyguns is arguing for monarchy again, and honestly id like to see how that particular discussion pans out it's more of a social thread for people who like milhist these days, really
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May 31, 2019 22:56
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I have had much better luck after switching commanders to sabre militia. They often only have 1 or 2 abilities that specifically benefit sabre cav and their bonuses to charging ends up being pretty decent for assault infantry. Having higher authority also ends up being really good for your front line. Just avoid the talents that are melee cav specific and you'll have a great front line general. I also prefer sabre militia to ji militia because archers dumpster ji so hard that they end up not being a problem. Spear and shield units can give archers and cav issues, but tend to melt against a sabre infantry charge. I suspect lategame I'll need to unlock yellow dragons so my commanders have access to a more elite front line, but right now high level sabre militia with commander morale bonuses are fantastic and hold better than higher tier green troops lead by champions.
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May 31, 2019 23:00
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:the dudes in this game wear little armour because the expert chinese swordsmiths learned from the forgers of the japanese katana to fold their steel ten million times and render all armour useless against its monomolecular edge. Well, they did fold their steel, as that was a necessary process at this time period where steel was very new to get impurities out. Japan just had to do it much longer than other countries because the iron in Japan was particularly impure.
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May 31, 2019 23:05
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golden bubble posted:There's a mod that makes sure all unique recruitment events and unique spawn events always occur. But if the RNG hates you, Sima Yi might never appear in your game. Oh drat, I'm guessing I just use the one that's just "character_events_guranteed.pack" to get them to happen at the 'correct' time? Edgar Allen Ho posted:the dudes in this game wear little armour because the expert chinese swordsmiths learned from the forgers of the japanese katana to fold their steel ten million times and render all armour useless against its monomolecular edge. If Heaven is on your side you don't need armour, which is why no one cut off Liu Bei's longass earlobes.
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May 31, 2019 23:15
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So question: I just hit king status and the map got divided between three emperorships, which I'm assuming is something of a soft realm divide in that the other two now hate my guts despite our marriage alliances. Do I get this malus just with the other kingdoms and their allies, or with everybody? I guess a better question would be I have a couple vassals in my back yard who are positive and very positive attitude with me - do I have to worry about a deteriorated penalty that will ultimately flip them, ala Shogun 2's RD that made all your vassals eventually hate you? Or am I safe to keep them?
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May 31, 2019 23:35
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What kinds of weapons do people prefer to equip their heroes with? I noticed in my attempts to get a Kong Rong game going (gently caress you Haun Shao!) that my Champion seemed to fare a lot better in duels when I swapped the spear he starts equipped with for a glaive.
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May 31, 2019 23:36
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Sydin posted:So question: I just hit king status and the map got divided between three emperorships, which I'm assuming is something of a soft realm divide in that the other two now hate my guts despite our marriage alliances. Do I get this malus just with the other kingdoms and their allies, or with everybody? I guess a better question would be I have a couple vassals in my back yard who are positive and very positive attitude with me - do I have to worry about a deteriorated penalty that will ultimately flip them, ala Shogun 2's RD that made all your vassals eventually hate you? Or am I safe to keep them? In my experience it is just the rival emperor's and their allies/vassals who hate you.
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May 31, 2019 23:37
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Reiterpallasch posted:it's more of a social thread for people who like milhist these days, really do people still spend pages discussing the minutiae of bows and pikes and other inane things (like apparently swords now)
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May 31, 2019 23:37
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Khisanth Magus posted:In my experience it is just the rival emperor's and their allies/vassals who hate you. Cool, thanks. I'm making insane bank off trade agreements with my vassals and I'd rather not rock that boat.
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May 31, 2019 23:38
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Dramicus posted:If you want to min/max, it's best to match. The bonuses that a strategist gives to ranged units generally only apply to their retinue and not the whole army. On a high level (6+) strategist, the bonuses can get pretty insane. +25% ranged damage (retinue) and +10% ap ranged (army) on top of it. The same is true for the other types. Min/maxing for numbers isn't as good as min/maxing for usefulness.
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Jun 1, 2019 00:10
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Jesus Christ, Gong Du had Han Xian running around my back yard spreading his communism. Took forever to run him down, trap him, and then kill him twice. I guess marathon running is in the yellow turban tech tree.
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Jun 1, 2019 00:11
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Senor Dog posted:do people still spend pages discussing the minutiae of bows and pikes and other inane things (like apparently swords now) i cant believe people might talk about military things in the milhist thread honestly not though, there's not usually a lot of ancient hardware chat, though tank derails aren't uncommon
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The mil history thread is the thread if you want to hear the same discussion of WW2 over and over again with maybe some other stuff sprinkled in. I wouldn’t recommend it
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Jun 1, 2019 00:18
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Klisejo posted:Jesus Christ, Gong Du had Han Xian running around my back yard spreading his communism. Took forever to run him down, trap him, and then kill him twice. I guess marathon running is in the yellow turban tech tree. Gong Du's bonus is 10% extra movement. It's really nice to play as but a pain in the rear end to play against. Echoing this from a few pages back regarding stances, personally I like them but armies being able to retreat while in Forced March is the biggest step back this series has taken from Warhammer.
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Jun 1, 2019 00:26
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Is it true that administrators show up with their retinue to defend their settlement (if not otherwise engaged) or was that just a filthy rumour?
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Jun 1, 2019 00:33
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I am at war with nearly all of China as Yuan Shu. It's about time this got historical.
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Jun 1, 2019 00:43
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Dramicus posted:I found another decent way to go as liu bei is to use all sword militia for your front line, as they are dirt cheap due to his faction bonus and are pretty tanky against everything except shock cav. Then spend all that extra money on the best cav you can take and win the cav fight. After that it's a basic hammer+anvil to victory. The repeating crossbows drop a mean 15 second rebuff on anyone they hit I’ve noticed, wrecking speed/charge bonus/I forget it’s like 4 things it affects. Also the arrow spam looks hilarious, especially with a strategist that buffs fire rate.
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Jun 1, 2019 01:00
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If mil hist isn't talking about grain prices, I think they are doing it wrong.
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Jun 1, 2019 01:03
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sassassin posted:Is it true that administrators show up with their retinue to defend their settlement (if not otherwise engaged) or was that just a filthy rumour? Yes they will. You can check this by clicking on the garrison button of an administrated settlement.
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Jun 1, 2019 01:12
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Dramicus posted:Normal crossbows are better than most archers. The specialized crossbows seem to be mostly useless. Yi archers are fantastic, probably the best value ranged in the game. I haven't played with Kong Rong's crossbows yet, so they might be decent. The main advantage of archers over crossbows (not counting the dragons) is the option for fire arrows, but if you have a trebuchet then you can just use those to burn down towers The repeater crossbows are absolutely devastating and apply a massive speed/charge bonus penalty. You can stand your ground against charging shock cavalry and wipe out the unit before they hit you. The downside is that they have gently caress all range so enemy archers/crossbows will mess them up. Kong Rong’s crossbows are fantastic, they’re like normal crossbowmen but with more damage and range.
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Jun 1, 2019 01:13
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Sima Yi appeared in my recruitment pool as Sun Juan, and now serves in my council and main army until the prime minister position becomes available and he can take his rightful place. Have the option to use him as a spy but can’t bring myself to not use him for his absolutely silly traits. He starts rank 7 ffs.
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Jun 1, 2019 01:20
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Regular archers are way more accurate than trebuchets when it comes to burning down towers, I feel like using trebuchets for that is kinda a waste of ammo.
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Jun 1, 2019 01:28
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Any general tips for the Yellow Turban starts? Huang Shao's looks nearly impossible. He Yi's is pretty relaxed but I'm torn between diving north and loving up the coalition or diving south to compete with Sun Jian over the south. Also their tech tree is way less "take this obvious choice for your faction" than the reforms tree is.
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Real Cool Catfish posted:Sima Yi appeared in my recruitment pool as Sun Juan, and now serves in my council and main army until the prime minister position becomes available and he can take his rightful place. Have the option to use him as a spy but can’t bring myself to not use him for his absolutely silly traits. He starts rank 7 ffs. He will absolutely* not betray you.
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I autoresolved a battle and my Lu Bu apparently lost his duel against some rando level 4 vanguard lol
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Kanos posted:Any general tips for the Yellow Turban starts? Huang Shao's looks nearly impossible. He Yi's is pretty relaxed but I'm torn between diving north and loving up the coalition or diving south to compete with Sun Jian over the south. Well everyone hates you and will declare war on you, so getting a defensible position is recommended. I'd recommend satisfaction techs and stocking up on characters when they appear in the Court. Yellow Turbans can go ages without any new officers appearing outside of random events. You can utilise Captain retinues without characters, but Yellow Turban hero upgrades are really good and give faction wide bonuses to income and research rate. Grabbing a bunch of characters will also zoom you through your enlightenment status, which will open up much needed diplomacy options for you.
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Khisanth Magus posted:Well, they did fold their steel, as that was a necessary process at this time period where steel was very new to get impurities out. Japan just had to do it much longer than other countries because the iron in Japan was particularly impure. Yeah but iirc folding the steel doesn't make it better or anything really it's just a different way of doing it. Like a katana isn't ever going to actually cut through an arming sword made of the same grade of metal, and they aren't particularly lighter either.
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Kanos posted:Any general tips for the Yellow Turban starts? Huang Shao's looks nearly impossible. He Yi's is pretty relaxed but I'm torn between diving north and loving up the coalition or diving south to compete with Sun Jian over the south. I like Huang Shao, with his gardens you can buff research rate and satisfaction for all your generals, which is nice since you can't promote them to improve their satisfaction. Fight with one enemy enough to get a peace deal and then focus on consolidating to the north and east to start giving yourself natural borders. You can spread out by having generals lead an army with a captain or two to raise large armies quickly. For the reforms I like to focus on getting extra money/satisfaction and public order first. Nearer to the mid-game, it becomes easy to go back and unlock some new troop types and assignments for your many commanders you will acquire as Huang Shao. Huang Shao also buffs archers pretty strongly, both from his traits and in-battle skills. PhantomZero fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Jun 1, 2019 |
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Fangz posted:Regular archers are way more accurate than trebuchets when it comes to burning down towers, I feel like using trebuchets for that is kinda a waste of ammo. Well I’m finding their peak hilarity is at large unwalled cities. Miss the towers? Hit the units for massive damage. Miss both? Hit the nearby buildings and engulf the city in a glorious inferno!
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Warning: do not, I repeat DO NOT use flaming arrows while your archers are in the woods themselves, unless you want your army to run out of the woods on fire and screaming.
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disjoe posted:Warning: do not, I repeat DO NOT use flaming arrows while your archers are in the woods themselves, unless you want your army to run out of the woods on fire and screaming. But if they're on fire they'll be doing more morale damage when they get into melee!
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Sydin posted:So question: I just hit king status and the map got divided between three emperorships, which I'm assuming is something of a soft realm divide in that the other two now hate my guts despite our marriage alliances. Do I get this malus just with the other kingdoms and their allies, or with everybody? I guess a better question would be I have a couple vassals in my back yard who are positive and very positive attitude with me - do I have to worry about a deteriorated penalty that will ultimately flip them, ala Shogun 2's RD that made all your vassals eventually hate you? Or am I safe to keep them? People will hate you for being the big evil power on the map, though, but you can buy them off with food bribes for a while. The emperors also mostly respect nonaggression pacts. Mostly.
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Has anyone tried playing a co-op campaign yet? How does that work with the 3 way split?
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I played one to completion on release weekend. It's just like a regular campaign, except there's a diplomacy option for agreeing to share the mandate of heaven which allows for a shared victory. What happened in our game was that I ended up becoming King first, Cao Cao and Yuan Shu (both AIs) became the other two kingdoms, my partner stayed as a duchy. I'm not sure if that was because the game won't allow the two humans to become two of the kingdoms or he just wasn't powerful enough.
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Ojetor posted:I played one to completion on release weekend. It's just like a regular campaign, except there's a diplomacy option for agreeing to share the mandate of heaven which allows for a shared victory. What happened in our game was that I ended up becoming King first, Cao Cao and Yuan Shu (both AIs) became the other two kingdoms, my partner stayed as a duchy. I'm not sure if that was because the game won't allow the two humans to become two of the kingdoms or he just wasn't powerful enough. Was he still a duchy when you shared the mandate? Or had he taken one of the seats? In the game I'm in right now my friend just hit Duke and I'm a King and he's deep in the south and both the AIs that were made Kings are super weak garbage that really feel like they weren't anywhere near King level.
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Ojetor posted:I played one to completion on release weekend. It's just like a regular campaign, except there's a diplomacy option for agreeing to share the mandate of heaven which allows for a shared victory. What happened in our game was that I ended up becoming King first, Cao Cao and Yuan Shu (both AIs) became the other two kingdoms, my partner stayed as a duchy. I'm not sure if that was because the game won't allow the two humans to become two of the kingdoms or he just wasn't powerful enough. What factions were you and your buddy? The game seems to weigh the OG trio higher even when they're weaker. Cao Cao declared himself Wei for me despite being significantly weaker than several other factions.
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Okay so I'm only a few turns into this and is it just me or does it seem to run better than Warhammer?
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It runs better.
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