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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i confess i am genuinely worried about ibm buying red hat Yeah IBM is going to gently caress it up and then all we have is Debian and Ubuntu.
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2019: finally the year of gentoo in the enterprise
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now now maybe the enterprise will realize the wisdom of giving directly to the FSF for GNU operating system support if they give enough and agree to some simple terms laid out on the web site, they can even get a talk by the creator of the GNU operating system, Richard Stallman, especially if there’s no building guest sign in or visitor ID requirement, they pay entirely in untraceable cash, and someone nearby has a friendly parrot
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big black turnout posted:2020 will finally be the year of hurd on the desktop http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/hurd/hurd.git/log/ more than 20 commits this year. hurd is moving along at rapid speed!!
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Progressive JPEG posted:freebsd is for bootlickers What?
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pram posted:http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/hurd/hurd.git/log/ the project is probably older than a lot of it's developers at this point
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The_Franz posted:the project is probably older than a lot of it's developers at this point does it even have enough developers for any subset to be described as "a lot"?
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eschaton posted:now now maybe the enterprise will realize the wisdom of giving directly to the FSF for GNU operating system support at the $5k/year level, rms will come to your office and give a talk and at the $10k/year level, he won't
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Soricidus posted:does it even have enough developers for any subset to be described as "a lot"? good point if it did it might be usable after 29 years the failson of os kernels
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https://feaneron.com/2019/05/31/profiling-gnome-shell/ *whilst spewing vast quantities of garbage onto a managed heap, from the thread that renders literally the entire desktop environment to the screen 60 times per second, in much the same manner as my posting* ah yes what we need here is fine tuning. time to get the microscope and calipers out.
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https://anholt.github.io/twivc4/2018/05/30/twiv/quote:Ultimately, though, I’m skeptical of GNOME 3 ever being usable on a Raspberry Pi. The clutter-based gnome-shell painting is too slow (60% of a CPU burned in the shell just trying to present a single 60fps glxgears), and there doesn’t seem to be a plan for improving it other than “maybe we’ll delete clutter some day?” Also, the javascipt extension system being in the compositor thread means that you drop application frames when something else (network statechanges, notifications, etc) happens in the system. This was a bad software architecture choice, and digging out of that hole now would take a long time. (I’m agnostic on whether it was wrong to move those into the same process as the compositor, but same thread was definitely wrong). I’ll keep working on the debugging tools to try to enable anyone to work on these problems, though. which could be abbreviated to quote:Ultimately, though, I’m skeptical of GNOME 3 ever being usable. non-kernel linux people know of no solutions to technical problems other than scrapping and rewriting things every 3-4 years so the continued existence of mutter is puzzling to say the least. Sapozhnik fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Jun 1, 2019 |
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BTRFS is the bad one and EXT4 is the good one, right? Synology pushes BTRFS.
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Sapozhnik posted:https://feaneron.com/2019/05/31/profiling-gnome-shell/ Honestly, there's so much low-hanging fruit simply in the Clutter paint loop that basic profiling is going to find some easy hot spots. Do I trust the wizards at GNOME to optimize correctly? Eh, not really. But there's a lot of very easy wins on the table, and I'd rather take those than burn it all down.
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Schadenboner posted:BTRFS is the bad one and EXT4 is the good one, right? BTRFS is the bad one and ZFS is the good one
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Schadenboner posted:BTRFS is the bad one and EXT4 is the good one, right? I rarely see those two compared. usually it’s ZFS vs BTRFS because if you want the features they offer then ext4 isn’t really an option
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It looks like those are the ones Synology lets you use on internal drives on their NASes?
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skull mask mcgee posted:just use btrfs 
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btrfs is very needs-suiting on my synology. i lose files mostly from my own gently caress ups so snapshots are a nice failsafe for that and I have separate backups for a true catastrophe
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skull mask mcgee posted:btrfs is very needs-suiting on my synology. i lose files mostly from my own gently caress ups so snapshots are a nice failsafe for that and I have separate backups for a true catastrophe rsync is easy enough as well, and then you don’t have to use a trash file system!
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Your File System is a Piece Of poo poo!
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ratbert90 posted:rsync is easy enough as well, and then you don’t have to use a trash file system! what does rsync have to do with the filesystem you use
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skull mask mcgee posted:I rarely see those two compared. usually it’s ZFS vs BTRFS because if you want the features they offer then ext4 isn’t really an option btrfs and zfs are just hilarious layering violations if you want those kinds of features with a normal filesystem you use xfs or ext4 with lvm + md
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:btrfs and zfs are just hilarious layering violations this is a cool post from 12 years ago
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if you want something that’s efficient you need to remove layers
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layers are great, they prevent you from accidentally making a good product that suits needs
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Breakfast All Day posted:BTRFS is the bad one and ZFS is the good one  btrfs is good, use that. just know when to chattr +C
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i think tankakern is getting to be right, but otoh they said the same thing when the data loss bugs were a monthly matter if ext4 has the features you need i still don't think it is worth stepping outside that. the fact that the tools and stuff like drivers for other platforms are common and mature also often to turn out convenient.
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zfs probably belongs on a dedicated storage server and not as the rootfs for a bunch of random linux machines that said ZoL has served me pretty well for 5+ years. It handles partially faulty drives pretty well so you can extend their useful life a lot longer than with a hardware raid.
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and on the eighth tick, god created the unix filesystem layers of abstraction. and god saw that it was gnu. and there was clockrise, and there was clockfall -- the eighth tick.
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r u ready to WALK posted:zfs probably belongs on a dedicated storage server and not as the rootfs for a bunch of random linux machines I mean yeah it was made for and demo’d on literally that, that’s why it has so many knobs and diddles to adjust
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I mean, if at all possible I’d like for it to be as set-and-forget as it can be. The NAS is for home, mostly just for holding media and some mild-to-moderate Docker? I’d prefer not to have to janitor it too much?
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Schadenboner posted:I mean, if at all possible I’d like for it to be as set-and-forget as it can be. The NAS is for home, mostly just for holding media and some mild-to-moderate Docker? Buy a Synology and stop thinking about it
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lol apple is very scared of gpl https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT208050 zsh is the new default shell
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I hope someday a trillion dollar corporation can also take my work for free and sell it Why did gen x immediately understand that having a single tyrant rule a significant chunk of the computing landscape is a bad thing while millennials line up to suck Apple's dick. Linux desktops these days are a total joke and they were actually a credible and somewhat important ecological niche ten years ago. Today nobody would even attempt to create such a thing, let alone competently work on it. I mean at best the tyrant openly ceases to give a poo poo about platforms that aren't absurdly profitable enough (macos), at worst you end up with 90s Microsoft. Who didn't even have the decency to acqui hire their competitors and just left a bloody trail of mutilated carcasses in their wake instead.
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Sapozhnik posted:Linux desktops these days are a total joke and they were actually a credible and somewhat important ecological niche ten years ago. nope, sorry, always been a total joke
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:lol apple is very scared of gpl zsh is really good though? 
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:lol apple is very scared of gpl gplv3 sucks, blame RMS
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Athas posted:What? Sapozhnik posted:I hope someday a trillion dollar corporation can also take my work for free and sell it
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