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Artum
Feb 13, 2012

DUN da dun dun da DUUUN
Soiled Meat

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Were storm bolters on the heavy weapon list?

You replace their boltgun with 2 items from the weapons list, one of which is a boltgun, then replace that boltgun with a heavy thunder hammer or a frag cannon or whatever so you could give heavy weapons troops and heavy thunder hammer guys a chainsword or stormshield in addition.

But now thats been erratad out.

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Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Artum posted:

You replace their boltgun with 2 items from the weapons list, one of which is a boltgun, then replace that boltgun with a heavy thunder hammer or a frag cannon or whatever so you could give heavy weapons troops and heavy thunder hammer guys a chainsword or stormshield in addition.

But now thats been erratad out.

Oh. But what about storm bolters and storm shields? You can still do that it seems.

Gameko
Feb 23, 2006

The friend of all children!

Thanks for all the marine forces info. My kid is young, I want to build a space marine force with room to grow. Probably we'll play skirmishes at home and venture out to the FLGS for fluffier, non-competitive events.

He really wants some of the space marine vehicles too. Should I pick up a predator tank and a box of primaris and call it good 'nuff?

SpaceViking
Sep 2, 2011

Who put the stars in the sky? Coyote will say he did it himself, and it is not a lie.

Strobe posted:

Tacs are bad. Unplayably so.

Intercessors are twice as durable for less than twice the cost, have twice the attacks, and have better guns. Thanks to the Indomitus Crusaders specialist detachment, you can also make them Veterans which gives them more attacks and also lets you turn a squad of Bolt Rifles into Rapid Fire 2 that have 4 shots each out to 30" if the squad didn't move.

They good.

Scouts are useful for being the cheapest Troops, but also definitely don't do what Tacs do.

Which book is the Indomitus Crusaders detachment in?

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

SpaceViking posted:

Which book is the Indomitus Crusaders detachment in?

The first Vigilus one.

Gameko posted:

Thanks for all the marine forces info. My kid is young, I want to build a space marine force with room to grow. Probably we'll play skirmishes at home and venture out to the FLGS for fluffier, non-competitive events.

He really wants some of the space marine vehicles too. Should I pick up a predator tank and a box of primaris and call it good 'nuff?

Honestly I would ask him what looks cool and go with that.

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.
So I'll be having to go to a remote area for about a month for work and need a project, was hoping the hoverboat would be out in time but sadly that's not the case.

I swore I'd never build any more dragoons, but this may be the perfect excuse to make some since I wouldn't have the motivation back home. Am I overlooking the ironstriders though? They're more points, don't have the negative -1 to hit and seem to fill a role that could be done by other units.

Anyone here who really likes them?

Marcus Garvey
Oct 24, 2015
Storm bolters and storm shields are a very legal(and very cool!) loadout for deathwatch vets.

In terms of "elite" armies that actually play similar to how their lore portrays them, I think custodes are probably the best/closest? It feels great to have like a 14 model army at 1500-2000 points.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Marcus Garvey posted:

Storm bolters and storm shields are a very legal(and very cool!) loadout for deathwatch vets.

In terms of "elite" armies that actually play similar to how their lore portrays them, I think custodes are probably the best/closest? It feels great to have like a 14 model army at 1500-2000 points.

Custodes do seem really fun.

Gameko
Feb 23, 2006

The friend of all children!

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

The first Vigilus one.


Honestly I would ask him what looks cool and go with that.

Probably the best idea tbh.

SpikeMcclane
Sep 11, 2005

You want the story?
I'll spin it for you quick...
Yeah, my mistake, mentally mixing up storm and heavy bolters.

ANAmal.net
Mar 2, 2002


100% digital native web developer

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Custodes do seem really fun.

I've gotten rekt by Felime's Custodes a bunch of times, and it's always been rad as hell.

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer




Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
Consistently making models I hate look good

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

Re: https://youtu.be/FpF8GZJifpw

I remember when Hexwraith flame and the other color (can’t remember the name) were released- I have used them a few times and I’m thinking those were market tests for contrast paints.

If they are of the same formula, it makes sense because they do act very similar and are halfway between a normal medium and wash medium.

JIZZ DENOUEMENT
Oct 3, 2012

STRIKE!

Deified Data posted:

Consistently making models I hate look good

My thoughts as well.

You are real good at painting, Booley.

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer
Booley how many hours per day or week do you paint?

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

TheBigAristotle posted:

Booley how many hours per day or week do you paint?

Depends on whether I have deadlines, am stuck on a video game, inspiration, etc. Usually 6-8 hours on a weekend and 3 on a weekday. The reaver was closer to 6 hours a night and 12 hours on a weekend for almost 2 weeks.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


OhDearGodNo posted:

Re: https://youtu.be/FpF8GZJifpw

I remember when Hexwraith flame and the other color (can’t remember the name) were released- I have used them a few times and I’m thinking those were market tests for contrast paints.

If they are of the same formula, it makes sense because they do act very similar and are halfway between a normal medium and wash medium.

I seem to recall hearing scuttlebutt on other forums that people who attended the Contrast presentation at Warhammer Fest said that Hexwraith Flame/Nighthaunt Gloom were early attempts at what became Contrast they decided to sell.

Dely Apple
Apr 22, 2006

Sing me Spanish Techno


For some madding reason I've found Hexwraith to be always incredible in results, but Nighthaunt comes off as less pseudo-translucent and frustrating. The shop guy said you could just not shake the pot before and use the medium at the top to get a better result, but I haven't had another spooky ghost model to really test that on.

richyp
Dec 2, 2004

Grumpy old man
Hexwraith over white, drybrushed white and washed yellow can make an eye-searingly bright combo too. I did my Ghostybros that way.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

richyp posted:

Hexwraith over white, drybrushed white and washed yellow can make an eye-searingly bright combo too. I did my Ghostybros that way.



what are the spectral winged things on the right?

richyp
Dec 2, 2004

Grumpy old man

1994 Toyota Celica posted:

what are the spectral winged things on the right?

These guys?



They're Spirit Hosts, from Legions of Nagash (or Nighthaunt if you're that way inclined)

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
ahh, i thought the left- and right-hand wraiths were the wings of the middle wraith

the look like they're made of ecto-cooler, excellent

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang

Yvonmukluk posted:

I seem to recall hearing scuttlebutt on other forums that people who attended the Contrast presentation at Warhammer Fest said that Hexwraith Flame/Nighthaunt Gloom were early attempts at what became Contrast they decided to sell.

Yeah, I spoke to GW's head paint guy. Hexwraith and Nighthaunt absolutely aren't the same as Contrasts, but they did come from the same development programme, before they moved to the new medium. They put them out because despite being failures they happened to be useful on their own merits.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

The people at GWS that make models where you have to glue two legs to a torso, I want them to step on legos, a lot.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

I said come in! posted:

The people at GWS that make models where you have to glue two legs to a torso, I want them to step on legos, a lot.

Why? Those bond lines are usually seamless.

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

Booley posted:

Depends on whether I have deadlines, am stuck on a video game, inspiration, etc. Usually 6-8 hours on a weekend and 3 on a weekday. The reaver was closer to 6 hours a night and 12 hours on a weekend for almost 2 weeks.

wow, and to think you could avoid all that with a good photography setup :v:

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Why? Those bond lines are usually seamless.

They are horrible to get right while the glue is drying. If someone has a tip for how to do it I would really appreciate advice.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

I said come in! posted:

They are horrible to get right while the glue is drying. If someone has a tip for how to do it I would really appreciate advice.

Dry fit first. Once you figure out the trick it should be a tight fit.

Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.
My first thought was any of the plastic Eldar infantry.

which are a pain to put together.

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes

Is this an AT or 40k sized Titan?

Booley
Apr 25, 2010
I CAN BARELY MAKE IT A WEEK WITHOUT ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE
Grimey Drawer

Bucnasti posted:

Is this an AT or 40k sized Titan?

40k

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

Bucnasti posted:

Is this an AT or 40k sized Titan?

It can be quite hard to tell them apart sometimes. A few days ago this was posted to an AT group I follow...



...nope, they're not AT scale. Someone wants to play AT rules with 28mm scale models.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

xtothez posted:

It can be quite hard to tell them apart sometimes. A few days ago this was posted to an AT group I follow...



...nope, they're not AT scale. Someone wants to play AT rules with 28mm scale models.

It must be nice to have money and time.

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

xtothez posted:

It can be quite hard to tell them apart sometimes. A few days ago this was posted to an AT group I follow...



...nope, they're not AT scale. Someone wants to play AT rules with 28mm scale models.

:stare:

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

It must be nice to have money and time.

A lot of money and a few Booleys would also work.

Count_Brass
Jul 16, 2009
Cross posting my finished Phobos Captain, really happy with this one.

Gunder
May 22, 2003

Count_Brass posted:

Cross posting my finished Phobos Captain, really happy with this one.

What black did you use for that? It looks very matte.

Count_Brass
Jul 16, 2009

Gunder posted:

What black did you use for that? It looks very matte.

I used Scale75 Flat Black. It’s matte to the point of looking a bit gray so it’s tricky to make it look right.

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Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Count_Brass posted:

I used Scale75 Flat Black. It’s matte to the point of looking a bit gray so it’s tricky to make it look right.

I wonder how it would look with a Dark Tone wash. Not your model, but in general.

Your model looks great. You did a phenomenal job with the black.

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