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BisbyWorl posted:Even XIV references it in Stormblood, which honestly surprised me. Heck, they even included the typo. 
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Materia is the crystallised knowledge of the ancients and destroying it to no purpose (Sephiroth can just summon another one if you don't also deal with him, even if they did succeed in destroying this one) is the kind of wasteful activity that led the WEAPONs to attack Midgar. They have a conversation kind of about this but I guess it's not explicitly spelled out as people are confused it.
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Mr. Locke posted:Stormblood is All References No Substance the expansion so it doesn’t surprise me in the least. that's what it's always sounded like to me. i have zero interest in a game like that
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The White Dragon posted:that's what it's always sounded like to me. i have zero interest in a game like that Heavensward is pretty much the best Final Fantasy game put out since the original Playstation (and I even like X). It's good and fun and the plot's well written even if you'll never fail to figure out where it's going you'll enjoy watching the characters go through it. Even the dumb reference stuff like the Warring Triad have a real place in the world and are fun little dives. Stormblood... was a tremendous letdown after Heavensward.
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Jun 3, 2019 06:26
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Stormblood had something decent going with Ala Mhigo and the story with reclaiming it and such and then it hard swerves into Doma which is The Land of Refs yeah Like they try to kludge it in but it doesn't work that well for me That said where the overall plot fails the individual character storytelling is still p. good in my opinion
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Jun 3, 2019 06:50
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Just finished FF15, while it was a huge mess, and huge confusing gaps had to be filled in by browsing the wiki, I think it ultimately stuck the landing. It works best as a character driven work, and Noctis having to go on a fun adventure with his best friends and give it all up for their sakes works with his personal growth. Also, I have the Royal Edition, but for some reason the Episode DLC content isn't showing up properly, what do I have to do?
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Jun 3, 2019 07:03
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episode dlc is accessed through the game's start screen. you might have to connect to psn and double check that your downloads are good to go.
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The White Dragon posted:episode dlc is accessed through the game's start screen. you might have to connect to psn and double check that your downloads are good to go. Yeah the dlcs don't get downloaded automatically. Think you might have to redeem them to get them to show up.
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Mr. Locke posted:Heavensward is pretty much the best Final Fantasy game put out since the original Playstation (and I even like X). It's good and fun and the plot's well written even if you'll never fail to figure out where it's going you'll enjoy watching the characters go through it. Even the dumb reference stuff like the Warring Triad have a real place in the world and are fun little dives. Well good news, because the next 24-man raid is going to just be one big reference to a completely different game series! 
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I just think Doma was a strange and dumb detour from Ala Mhigo and I didn't really like it. I really think that the inclusion of Doma was more about love for SAM than anything else. Like how HW was a big ol' love letter to DRG. The characters were good in SB though. I quite liked that the more you learn of the history of Ala Mhigo the more you realize that Lyse being ineffectual, idealistic, and ultimately incapable of strong-arming policy is exactly what Ala Mhigo thrives under. At first I thought Lyse was poo poo at leading compared to sociopath Hien, but then we learn that in the past Hien-like leaders have only caused huge problems for Ala Mhigo. I also quite liked Golfbag Jones as the main villain. He's just like the WoL he's only good at destroying things. He just happens to have the US Armed Forces backing him.
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Merilan posted:Doma which is The Land of Refs yeah
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Rirse posted:Yeah the dlcs don't get downloaded automatically. Think you might have to redeem them to get them to show up. Oh, I found it, the code was hiding in the DVD case. Downloading right now, but I'm not super motivated to jump right in, Observation is calling me, then I need to have a play with the new Stellaris update, then PoE.
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since you already passed the points you would play gladio and prompto you can skip those but i would recommend episode ignis at least
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:There's nothing ambiguous about the ending at all. It's the ruins of midgar, the thing the game has been hammering home "This is a big symbol of everything bad humanity has done" to contrast with the good aspects of humanity, overrun with nature while Red XIII's descendants run around. He was kind of the last of the tigermen or whatever his loving deal was so him having descendants is a big "Hey life found a way". Midgar being in ruins isn't "AND ALL OF HUMANITY DIED" its "Humanity moved beyond the ideology that was poisoning the world and themselves". Squall is dead is a fun but very flawed theory, unlike the canon not-officially-debunked Oxxidation posted:iscar matthias your time has come I may be biased but I'll throw a vote for TWD's original FF character do not steal: The White Dragon posted:Job/Occupation, anything goes. This is the most important part. sells drugs, so she can afford a lawyer to represent her as one of the illegitimate heirs to the throne  She uhh cooks materia.
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Elentor posted:Squall is dead is a fun but very flawed theory, unlike the canon not-officially-debunked R=U gives story reason for GFs making you forget things by having those be there reason she don't recognise him when she goes back in time. All you have to do is accept that sorceresses love forever if they don't pass on their powers and need knights to not go insane only obviously Rinoa wouldn't take another one when old man Squall does. Wait there I've got a fanfic that -
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So how does R=U account for her sudden fascination with Ks?
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Have you like seen how fast language changes in your lifetime, how slangs and accents move at a super fast pace? Ultimecia comes from a future where everyone's playing Mortal Kombat and that poo poo is the bomb, it's the real e-sports sensation. They ain't doin the floss, they're speaking with Ks.
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Playing the 3D remake of IV. Why did they change the awesome dark-wave into some lame strength-buff?
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what possible story reason could there be for an organization that trains child soldiers to use a method that makes them lose their memories
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Lessail posted:what possible story reason could there be for an organization that trains child soldiers to use a method that makes them lose their memories Its not all memories, just some. Seemingly, specifically, memories that make you less good at shooting your mom in the face if ordered to do so.
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Hogama posted:So how does R=U account for her sudden fascination with Ks? She lost her retainer
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Dark Wave sucks. Any attack that takes your HP to use sucks, because it means you have to expend your hoard of consumable items to refill it or have the white mage do it when she could instead be ineffectually tapping the monster with a stick.
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Gologle posted:Dark Wave sucks. Any attack that takes your HP to use sucks, because it means you have to expend your hoard of consumable items to refill it or have the white mage do it when she could instead be ineffectually tapping the monster with a stick. Hello 12 year old me
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Playing the 3D remake of IV. Why did they change the awesome dark-wave into some lame strength-buff? Ive been playing a rom hack of the original US version of FFIV. They gave Dark Knight Cecil dual wielding which was pretty awesome. Unfortunately Paladin Cecil is still lame.
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Paladin Cecil was fun in the DS version with counter. Combined with cover and he attacks a lot.
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Cavelcade posted:Materia is the crystallised knowledge of the ancients and destroying it to no purpose (Sephiroth can just summon another one if you don't also deal with him, even if they did succeed in destroying this one) is the kind of wasteful activity that led the WEAPONs to attack Midgar. My favourite bit of the Huge Materia hunt is after Shin-Ra's rocket has crashed into Meteor and failed to destroy it, people across the world look crushed, even Bugenhagen seems to be disappointed. Cut to the party - "Shin-Ra's plan failed..." YEAH NO poo poo YOU STUPID FUCKS YOU STOLE ALL THE HUGE MATERIA
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Stormblood is good fools
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Lessail posted:what possible story reason could there be for an organization that trains child soldiers to use a method that makes them lose their memories They probably gave them the power of the gods first and then later realized it had side-effects and didn't care. NORG is all about the bottom line. Never forget NORG.
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NikkolasKing posted:They probably gave them the power of the gods first and then later realized it had side-effects and didn't care. I was so confused when I played this game in my teens. Some fat dude living the basement, is apparently rich and now we fight.
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Lessail posted:what possible story reason could there be for an organization that trains child soldiers to use a method that makes them lose their memories I'm not sure if it's  or not but if there was something that ate away all interpersonal bonds and private memories and left just instinct/mindless obedience while also making soldiers better, every (para)military organization on the planet would be jumping at that so hard.
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Intend to finish FFVIII on Steam since I first played it 20 years ago only to never beat the german space-witch. My brother got the game for his birthday and he was a fan, but he also never got to the end and he never will now. What are all the ridiculous ways you can break the game's balance into pieces without using cheats? Never level-up? Get the best weapons and limits early? Draw a 100 Ultimas in Disc 1?
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Intend to finish FFVIII on Steam since I first played it 20 years ago only to never beat the german space-witch. My brother got the game for his birthday and he was a fan, but he also never got to the end and he never will now. I'm a fan of fighting Diabolos right away, card farm until you unlock no encounter, then play the rest of the game like a boss rush with cutscenes.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Intend to finish FFVIII on Steam since I first played it 20 years ago only to never beat the german space-witch. My brother got the game for his birthday and he was a fan, but he also never got to the end and he never will now. Junction 100 breaks to ST-Atk-J, then every single hit will petrify pretty much any enemy. Then use the Card ability to finish them off. You'll barely level up yet you'll have insane stats from all the cards you'll be able to refine. Also, it should be worth noting, you only ever need to draw GFs, don't waste your time drawing magic.
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Imagine hating a game so much that you skip all of it by playing a card game at the start.
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The real way to power game VIII is to learn how to abolish all rules except open.
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derra posted:The real way to power game VIII is to learn how to abolish all rules except open. The canon of Squall getting so salty at children's card games he spends days bullying the one Trabian transfer student at Galbadia shaking his collar going "ABOLISH YOUR RULES, GO BACK HOME AND TELL THE WORD" is fantastic
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Intend to finish FFVIII on Steam since I first played it 20 years ago only to never beat the german space-witch. My brother got the game for his birthday and he was a fan, but he also never got to the end and he never will now. Unlock the GF ability to turn items into magic then save money to buy tents. Break them down into Curagas and junction 100 of those to everyone's hp. Congratulations you are now unkillable. Then unlock no random encounters, use the lamp, blind Diablis, beat him, then just go do whatever you want.
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Merilan posted:The canon of Squall getting so salty at children's card games he spends days bullying the one Trabian transfer student at Galbadia shaking his collar going "ABOLISH YOUR RULES, GO BACK HOME AND TELL THE WORD" is fantastic  Seems legit
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Gologle posted:Dark Wave sucks. Any attack that takes your HP to use sucks, because it means you have to expend your hoard of consumable items to refill it or have the white mage do it when she could instead be ineffectually tapping the monster with a stick. imo paladins should get Light Wave that costs MP to use  Arist posted:Stormblood is good fools you can't trick me i saw the "fft alternate ending" and that was infested rat poo poo straight out of a sewer Fur20 fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Jun 3, 2019 |
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