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Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT

Fojar38 posted:

On the other hand it's because of this that we got the "tender touch of a soft butt" line

i always wondered why the cat bus from totoro had such a huge grin all the time

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amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Dawgstar posted:

I did get tired of them pushing the whole Morgana's into Ann thing. I can only imagine it's even more frustrating if you're romancing Ann and you can't tell him to pipe down.

I'm betting this is gonna be even more annoying once you get human Morgana in Royal.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Fedora-Cat was great actually and made all the better by the fact that Morgana wasn't even rejected, he was just ignored.

Ohtsam
Feb 5, 2010

Not this shit again.

amigolupus posted:

I'm betting this is gonna be even more annoying once you get human Morgana in Royal.

Hopefully it ends with Ann just beating the hell out of him immediately after he becomes a person because a cat violating her personal space is completely different from a person doing it.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


RazzleDazzleHour posted:

The thing that gets me is that it's not even like...something they ever bother to openly discuss ever. Joker never talks to Morgana about it, Ann never acknowledges it, it's basically just like constantly hearing Morgana's internal horny thoughts. It could have been interesting if the game did literally anything with it, but they don't. Is the whole thing just supposed to be a goof about how Ann is dressed like a cat and Morgana is a cat? It seems so bizarre for one of Morgana's defining character traits to never be acknowledged by another character

It's because Ann is the designated attractive person in general, and Morgana like all men hopes for a chance with her.

It's dumb and bad basically.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Morgana is gay and overcompensating for his crush on Ryuji, send tweet.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Tired Moritz posted:

Morgana is gay and overcompensating for his crush on Ryuji, send tweet.

Thankfully that one isn't happening either, because Ryuji deserves better.

CJ
Jul 3, 2007

Asbungold
The biggest problem with Persona 5 is how much stuff it copy and pastes from Persona 4. Morgana turning into a twink is another example of that, so hopefully they do something different to it.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Blaze Dragon posted:

Thankfully that one isn't happening either, because Ryuji deserves better.

I don't know. Maybe Ryuji is into tsunderes. Which we have a surprising lack of, in this incredibly anime videogame series.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Tired Moritz posted:

I don't know. Maybe Ryuji is into tsunderes. Which we have a surprising lack of, in this incredibly anime videogame series.

We had Ai in 4.

Also the twins kind of count in 5.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~
You can’t forget Marie. No matter how much you want to.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Geostomp posted:

You can’t forget Marie. No matter how much you want to.

Indeed. Long were the days I whiled away being being called a stupiddumbjerkfacehead and wondering precisely what she was adding to my experience.

HaB
Jan 5, 2001

What are the odds?

Dawgstar posted:

Indeed. Long were the days I whiled away being being called a stupiddumbjerkfacehead and wondering precisely what she was adding to my experience.

Well if you weren't such a stupiddumbjerkfacehead, maybe she wouldn't have called you that.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Marie is the correct Romance because she can control the weather.

Rosalind
Apr 30, 2013

When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change.

Took everyone's advice and went French Revolution on my personas and yeah that has made things much easier in palace 6!

I'm still probably a bit underleveled as I beat a mini-boss on the first level and every single party member aside from Akechi leveled up twice. I'm really liking the casino vibe. I just wish there was a bit more to do. Like I get that the games are rigged but I wish there were more prizes to buy once I unrigged them.

I don't like Akechi as a party member very much at all. I don't like how he acts all smug like he's figured everything out before everyone else.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Rosalind posted:

Took everyone's advice and went French Revolution on my personas and yeah that has made things much easier in palace 6!

I'm still probably a bit underleveled as I beat a mini-boss on the first level and every single party member aside from Akechi leveled up twice. I'm really liking the casino vibe. I just wish there was a bit more to do. Like I get that the games are rigged but I wish there were more prizes to buy once I unrigged them.

I don't like Akechi as a party member very much at all. I don't like how he acts all smug like he's figured everything out before everyone else.

I don't think you're underleveled, IIRC that miniboss just gives out an absurd amount of EXP.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Marie is cool and good and my girlfriend.

You're all just clowns.

But seriously, I love her design and voice-acting so much and her poems being bad is clear ly intentional and heartwarming because I too wrote bad poetry when I was her age.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

NikkolasKing posted:

Marie is cool and good and my girlfriend.

You're all just clowns.

But seriously, I love her design and voice-acting so much and her poems being bad is clear ly intentional and heartwarming because I too wrote bad poetry when I was her age.

You're 3000 years old? :v:

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Rosalind posted:

Took everyone's advice and went French Revolution on my personas and yeah that has made things much easier in palace 6!

I'm still probably a bit underleveled as I beat a mini-boss on the first level and every single party member aside from Akechi leveled up twice. I'm really liking the casino vibe. I just wish there was a bit more to do. Like I get that the games are rigged but I wish there were more prizes to buy once I unrigged them.

I don't like Akechi as a party member very much at all. I don't like how he acts all smug like he's figured everything out before everyone else.

Yeah, it’s amazing how quickly you get desensitized to subjecting what would be valued teammates in normal games to ritual executions for power.

Also, screw Akechi and his distressingly large adoring fanbase.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

If you ever feel really underleveled, go into Mementos during Flu Season and seek out the Reaper. There's a semi-exploit you can do to get flat-out silly EXP that way if you're so inclined or if you hit a wall in a later dungeon and don't want to crank down the difficulty.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I thought Akechi was making some good points in the early-mid game, specifically in questioning the sort of precedent it sets if everyone decides literally overwriting cognition is okay

HaB
Jan 5, 2001

What are the odds?

Fojar38 posted:

I thought Akechi was making some good points in the early-mid game, specifically in questioning the sort of precedent it sets if everyone decides literally overwriting cognition is okay

That would be a good point if he wasn't a complete hypocrite. He was already overwriting cognition himself.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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HaB posted:

That would be a good point if he wasn't a complete hypocrite. He was already overwriting cognition himself.

Yeah but you don't know that at the time.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

After much internal debate, I'm Goropilled now and am glad he gets fun scenes in PQ2.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


Akechi is eh but no character can match the atrocity that is Sae's writing.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I dunno a lot of oddness about Sae can be explained by her palace and the fact that it was actively messed with.

Magil of Shadow
Dec 28, 2009

Proposal: Form a friendly relationship immediately.

"You have GOT to be kidding me"

Fojar38 posted:

Fedora-Cat was great actually and made all the better by the fact that Morgana wasn't even rejected, he was just ignored.

This was the reason I could tolerate Morgana's poo poo involving Ann, aside from the fact that he's a goddamned cat and ain't gonna get nowhere. I just pictured Joker tuning Morgana out until he stopped saying Ann's name, nodding the entire time, and then just going on as if nothing was different.

That, and, if dating Ann, the only thing holding Joker back from rubbing Morgana's face in it was the usual mechanics of not being able to point out that you're dating someone to the rest of the cast outside of Valentine's Day, so mentally picturing the poo poo-eating grin on Joker's face if he ever had enough, amused me just as much.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

Not that I'm eager to turn Persona into a dating sim, but it's a bit weird how your choice of relationship is never, ever reflected beyond scenes specific to your romantic pursuit. I get that given the amount of characters you can romance it would be tricky but it comes across strange when those characters don't react appropriately in certain situations nor is it ever acknowledged among the other characters. That's why the whole marriage question in P5 felt off because that was the only situation where Joker's de-facto girlfriend (if present) reacted appropriately. From a development standpoint it rings a lot as damned if you do, damned if you don't thing but for a player it really feels inconsistent with the narrative of that specific playthrough.

Magil of Shadow
Dec 28, 2009

Proposal: Form a friendly relationship immediately.

"You have GOT to be kidding me"

Stare-Out posted:

Not that I'm eager to turn Persona into a dating sim, but it's a bit weird how your choice of relationship is never, ever reflected beyond scenes specific to your romantic pursuit. I get that given the amount of characters you can romance it would be tricky but it comes across strange when those characters don't react appropriately in certain situations nor is it ever acknowledged among the other characters. That's why the whole marriage question in P5 felt off because that was the only situation where Joker's de-facto girlfriend (if present) reacted appropriately. From a development standpoint it rings a lot as damned if you do, damned if you don't thing but for a player it really feels inconsistent with the narrative of that specific playthrough.

I'm admittedly torn, because I feel the exact same way, yet I get just as much, why, at least in the short run, while it wouldn't come up, at least that much, in terms of plot. Like, at least in 5, you can blow off 'Babehunt 3 - Hawaii Beach Adventure' if you're dating someone by that point, or just in general, but I hated that you couldn't come up with something in 4 to do the same. I mean, I get it, the staff have to account for enough changes to the plot as is, but a few more wouldn't be THAT out of place.


Plus, it'd be amusing to see some of the cast's reactions to who you were dating, depending on timing.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

That would be good too, and could be done in a separate scene as in if-player-is-dating-X-other-characters-react-Y thing, especially if it's someone those characters know. It's not a huge deal but since the ability to romance other characters is in there, it tends to make one hyper-aware of it during a playthrough so scenes where there are inconsistencies really stand out.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Persona is already 95% dating sim so they should just go all out tbh.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Magil of Shadow posted:

Plus, it'd be amusing to see some of the cast's reactions to who you were dating, depending on timing.

Ryuji: "WHAAAAAAT!? NO EFFIN' WAY, DUDE!" *repeat as needed for each love interest*

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

Dawgstar posted:

Ryuji: "WHAAAAAAT!? NO EFFIN' WAY, DUDE!" *repeat as needed for each love interest*

I'd take even that. And I'd like to see the secondary characters interact with the main characters as love interests. What I'm saying is Kawakami needed to be involved with the Phantom Thieves from the start.

Magil of Shadow
Dec 28, 2009

Proposal: Form a friendly relationship immediately.

"You have GOT to be kidding me"

Dawgstar posted:

Ryuji: "WHAAAAAAT!? NO EFFIN' WAY, DUDE!" *repeat as needed for each love interest*

I admittedly wanted this for 4 as well, partially to, in my opinion, add to some of the cast's growth. For example, a romanced Chie standing up for her romance with the MC whenever Rise gets her cling on, or Rise dating the MC being a potential hindrance towards her returning to being an idol given said industry's fixation on image.


Course, I also wouldn't have minded Ryuji having a bit of a freakout, then going all "Dude, respect" or such, depending on the girl in question.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Magil of Shadow posted:

I admittedly wanted this for 4 as well, partially to, in my opinion, add to some of the cast's growth. For example, a romanced Chie standing up for her romance with the MC whenever Rise gets her cling on, or Rise dating the MC being a potential hindrance towards her returning to being an idol given said industry's fixation on image.

No, it's a good idea I'd like to see myself, more that was just having fun with Ryuji not being written the best.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Dawgstar posted:

Ryuji: "WHAAAAAAT!? NO EFFIN' WAY, DUDE!" *repeat as needed for each love interest*

ryuji also does this if you are dating him

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

Dawgstar posted:

Ryuji: "FOR REAL!? NO EFFIN' WAY, DUDE!" *repeat as needed for each love interest*

fixed

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT
Looks like Q2 is getting good reviews. Gonna have to dust off the ol' 3DS for one last swan song, and then maybe finally finish SMT4 lol.

Ohtsam
Feb 5, 2010

Not this shit again.

Stare-Out posted:

If you ever feel really underleveled, go into Mementos during Flu Season and seek out the Reaper. There's a semi-exploit you can do to get flat-out silly EXP that way if you're so inclined or if you hit a wall in a later dungeon and don't want to crank down the difficulty.

It'd be hilarious if in royal flu season powered up the reaper instead.

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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017


Does that mean Ryuji is shrieking 'NANI?' in the Japanese?

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