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Shame Boy posted:Actually I think they can do that just fine and it'll work out for them somehow. Nah, Jobs is who fished that turd out of the bowl back in the late 90s, and the greed elementals who run Apple now have none of that guy's vision or aesthetic. This MacBook Air is the last Apple computer I ever plan on buying. From here on out it's custom boxes running Linux for me
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megalodong posted:https://www.macrumors.com/2019/06/03/apple-pro-display-xdr-stand-costs-extra-999/ plus the potential antitrust lol. Bring on the downfall of apple. [/quote] Wait, so a full system will cost a total of $12,200 before taxes? Wooooow. What did the last version cost?
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Jun 4, 2019 12:50
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Just have the stand break every month like their headphone adapters, there now you have a good revenue stream!
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Day Man posted:plus the potential antitrust lol. that's the low end model. I don't think they've announced the price of the more powerful machines. you can get up to 28 cores and 1.5 TB of RAM, I can't imagine what that would cost 
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I grew up in a "mac house" in the 90s because my dad has purchased every apple product we could conceivably use since the apple ii, and holy moly, they're so bad now. i remember when Mac OS10 launched and the old blocky OS's really did seem outdated - now every interface upgrade seems to remove a ton of functionality and make things more confusing, nothing runs on them, they're super expensive, and Macbooks seem to intentionally slow down (like iPhones were proven to do) I loving despise apple products but still have a Macbook Pro from college my parents gave me and sometimes I really miss the old OS8-9 stuff I grew up with that was actually intuitive.
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Jun 4, 2019 13:29
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gey muckle mowser posted:that's the low end model. I don't think they've announced the price of the more powerful machines. 40k dollars before the Apple premium. Thats not even the most expensive it could possibly get. The HP Z8 goes up to 3TB of Ram and you can option it out with 3 Nvidia Quadros and dual 28 core Intel CPUs at ~12k a pop. I couldnt get through the whole customizer because its awkward on mobile but i got up to ~48k before I tired of it. Also its only for some interminable and asinine reason you arent doing design work on a normal workstation and renting time on a render farm. Rigged Death Trap has issued a correction as of 13:47 on Jun 4, 2019 |
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Former DILF posted:its never going to happen but Donald Trump being the second coming of the Trustbuster would be pretty funny ityool2019 I think he'd be happy to as long as the targeted monopolies are perceived as pro-Democrat in some way. He's never going to break up Sinclair Broadcasting or anything.
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I don't think Apple is remotely in danger of becoming unprofitable, but what they might do is fail to post exponential growth every single quarter which is all the capitalists care about so even if they still make plenty of money, number might go down anyways
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Jun 4, 2019 14:24
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Imagined posted:I think he'd be happy to as long as the targeted monopolies are perceived as pro-Democrat in some way. He's never going to break up Sinclair Broadcasting or anything. So what you're saying is we need to convince him that Koch Industries is somehow left-leaning... I mean they donate to NPR, right wingers think that's a lefty soy boy thing to do right?
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Frog Act posted:I grew up in a "mac house" in the 90s because my dad has purchased every apple product we could conceivably use since the apple ii, and holy moly, they're so bad now. i remember when Mac OS10 launched and the old blocky OS's really did seem outdated - now every interface upgrade seems to remove a ton of functionality and make things more confusing, nothing runs on them, they're super expensive, and Macbooks seem to intentionally slow down (like iPhones were proven to do) I also grew up in a Mac house in the 80's/90's. We switched over to PCs around 1996 and my parents have ipads now, but yeah, they were a lot better back then when they were the underdog and fighting to survive. At least in the 90's they could justify the premium pricing due to being a self-contained environment with excellent ease of use. Now there's nothing particularly innovative that gives them a step up over literally any competition other than inertia and other forms of brand loyalty.
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Jun 4, 2019 15:13
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'Brand loyalty is a mental disease'
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Apple stuff (and consumer smart tech in general) is so annoying, they work so hard to hide the technical details about what is actually going on, to give that 'it just works!' appeal. I want to scream at those dialogs that say poo poo like 'We're just sorting some things out! This will just take a sec!' when you're installing something.
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Jun 4, 2019 15:32
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TheMostFrench posted:Apple stuff (and consumer smart tech in general) is so annoying, they work so hard to hide the technical details about what is actually going on, to give that 'it just works!' appeal. I want to scream at those dialogs that say poo poo like 'We're just sorting some things out! This will just take a sec!' when you're installing something. That sounds more like a Windows 10 message?
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Jun 4, 2019 15:35
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Outrail posted:'Brand loyalty is a mental disease' The walled garden is real, yo.
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Jun 4, 2019 15:38
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Outrail posted:'Brand loyalty is a mental disease' It's insidiously hard to not fall into a trap of thinking something's good so always buy that brand tbh. All computers are the same to me so luckily I don't have a care about Mac vs pc
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I like that that HARRISON FORD turned into Ｈ Ａ Ｒ Ｒ Ｉ Ｓ Ｏ Ｎ Ｆ Ｏ Ｒ Ｄ between the normal and directors cuts
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mandatory lesbian posted:It's insidiously hard to not fall into a trap of thinking something's good so always buy that brand tbh. All computers are the same to me so luckily I don't have a care about Mac vs pc I mean it does make a certain amount of sense to an extent, but when it becomes blind trust without thought it's a problem. If I'm forced to choose between Toyota or Chevy off the cuff I'll take the Toyota because they have a rep for reliable trucks that I have verified in the past. But if possible I'll always verify the model I'm looking at has had good reviews or whatever.
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Jun 4, 2019 18:58
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I have a "Scream 5-film set" that is really just the first 3 movies with two really lame made-for-TV "documentaries" that would be considered extras on any other release
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Jun 4, 2019 19:17
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everyone who uses mac will be purged when the linux nerds arise windows users will be reeducated to use ubuntu anyone with an opinion on DVORK keyboards will be the new leaders ps. lol at people pretending steve jobs did anything whatsoever to make apple big, dude died drinking apple juice to cure cancer
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Jun 4, 2019 19:28
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T-man posted:everyone who uses mac will be purged when the linux nerds arise hey, i just use the computer my work gives me. last time it was a mac desktop. the new place gave me a hp laptop. I've got no say in the matter. you nerds just tell me what line to stand in when the time comes. if i get purged because i touched the wrong computer last, it will be a world id be glad to depart
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Jun 4, 2019 19:36
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the market for computers that just loving work is huge and it’s worth a premium , especially if there’s worthwhile privacy protections thrown it the fact that Apple products are still full of bugs and dont always work is pretty amusing
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yeah but the market for computers that actually just work doesn't exist because nobody makes those. and all modern 'smart' 'clean' software sucks because I cant even debug it on my own and ofc googling random problems with a phone app or some piece of poo poo windows app with no error dialogs gives you either no results or the developer's help ticket system that doesbt work. I'd loving kill for programs that just go 'oh whoops not enough bandwidth or hard disk space' instead of showing a spinning circle forever
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Jun 4, 2019 20:09
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There's no worthwhile privacy in a computer you can get from a store in the mall
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Larry Parrish posted:yeah but the market for computers that actually just work doesn't exist because nobody makes those. and all modern 'smart' 'clean' software sucks because I cant even debug it on my own and ofc googling random problems with a phone app or some piece of poo poo windows app with no error dialogs gives you either no results or the developer's help ticket system that doesbt work. I'd loving kill for programs that just go 'oh whoops not enough bandwidth or hard disk space' instead of showing a spinning circle forever I'm not sure you understand the kind of people who buy computers that just work! if you're talking about troubleshooting or debugging anything and not just immediately calling support or taking it in to yell at someone in person because it's broken
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People are paying a premium specifically so they do not have to learn basic skills like "how to read an error dialog" or "how to use google". Part of that goes towards making stupid simple programs that never show you anything even vaguely resembling an error because that's scary, and the other part goes towards employing lots of people to be yelled at when they inevitably still can't figure out how to use the thing despite it being reduced to like, one button. Well the part left over after 99.9% goes to stock buybacks I mean
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TheMostFrench posted:Apple stuff (and consumer smart tech in general) is so annoying, they work so hard to hide the technical details about what is actually going on, to give that 'it just works!' appeal. I want to scream at those dialogs that say poo poo like 'We're just sorting some things out! This will just take a sec!' when you're installing something. When you start up a windows computer after a big update it says "We've made some changes  "Also people have been saying this poo poo about Apple for years, even when jobs was alive. "lol a 'tablet' device?? So it's a computer but with the processing speed of a phone and also it can't play flash??? That'll never catch on"
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bike tory posted:Also people have been saying this poo poo about Apple for years, even when jobs was alive. "lol a 'tablet' device?? So it's a computer but with the processing speed of a phone and also it can't play flash??? That'll never catch on" They were right, and tablets as a market are rapidly shrinking.
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bike tory posted:Also people have been saying this poo poo about Apple for years, even when jobs was alive. "lol a 'tablet' device?? So it's a computer but with the processing speed of a phone and also it can't play flash??? That'll never catch on" Posted from an Ipod speaker dock, with an Ipod in a sock.
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tablet sales were entirely made by people who want to feel like they're living in ~the future~ and now everyone with the itch has been disappointed because, guess what, they suck. ps. If you kept the default password on your router anyone with strong opinions on something called gentoo could ruin your life
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T-man posted:tablet sales were entirely made by people who want to feel like they're living in ~the future~ and now everyone with the itch has been disappointed because, guess what, they suck. Posted from my Juicero
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is this where I bitch about a spinning circle being the replacement for an actual progress bar? is it working? is it doing anything? is it loving STUCK who knows enjoy this gif of a circle spinning for anywhere from 1 second to 10,000 years
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all the companies moved from a progress bar to a spinning circle exactly because it is more obfuscatory and looks like its still working even when its stuck and because everyone got mad when the progress bar sat at 99% for a while
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D.Ork Bimboolean posted:Posted from my Juicero https://youtu.be/_Cp-BGQfpHQ some of the finest minds in engineering and fabrication made juicero
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im especially angry since I do a lot of gaming and poo poo like discord is constantly bugging out but theres usually no easy way to tell what's wrong. my favorite is I have to use a tethered cell phone because I live in the 90% of the usa's landmass without access to cable (and at&t literally wont sell you DSL anymore because they'd have to upgrade the network hub lol) and a lot of modern programs cant handle significant packet loss or bandwidth changes, so it'll just hang with no warning. like a cool one discord specifically will do is show everyone online etc but no messages will ever appear and I wont notice it's not actually connected until I try to say something. God it sucks Anyway I know most people suck bad with computers. People at work act like I'm a wizard because our time clock dialog sometimes gets stuck behind another window on the PoS and instead of finding a terminal that doesnt have it stuck open I just alt-tab and get focus back
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Computer janitor opinions are extremely cursed.
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Larry Parrish posted:im especially angry since I do a lot of gaming and poo poo like discord is constantly bugging out but theres usually no easy way to tell what's wrong. my favorite is I have to use a tethered cell phone because I live in the 90% of the usa's landmass without access to cable (and at&t literally wont sell you DSL anymore because they'd have to upgrade the network hub lol) and a lot of modern programs cant handle significant packet loss or bandwidth changes, so it'll just hang with no warning. like a cool one discord specifically will do is show everyone online etc but no messages will ever appear and I wont notice it's not actually connected until I try to say something. God it sucks this is common with cellular connections, when your connection goes idle the tower will cut your IP connection. phones are designed for this, but you still may notice sometimes delays due to this on your phone (ie the first webpage takes a while to load). if you want to keep something online continuously you need to create a ping keep alive and a reconnect script if this fails. cellular routers and bridges will have this type of feature built in
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Peanut President posted:is this where I bitch about a spinning circle being the replacement for an actual progress bar? is it working? is it doing anything? is it loving STUCK who knows enjoy this gif of a circle spinning for anywhere from 1 second to 10,000 years I guarantee it will generate less calls to support than having an actual progress bar that gets stuck and stops moving, even if it actually does freeze. Source: I previously wrote software for hellfuckers and we made that change for that reason and it worked
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Remember when Microsoft replaced the blue screen of death with an emoji in Windows 10 so you couldn't tell what happened because there's no longer an error code, just a 
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