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No iPads have 3D Touch, and I don't think they ever will. It might have long presses which are functionally the same. As for IG and Whatsapp, ask Facebook.
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Endless Mike posted:No iPads have 3D Touch, and I don't think they ever will. It might have long presses which are functionally the same. The only thing I miss is doing the 3D touch on the keyboard to bring up the cursor. Is there another way to do this on iPad cuz I use that so much on my phone.
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May 29, 2019 16:59
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Endless Mike posted:No iPads have 3D Touch, and I don't think they ever will. It might have long presses which are functionally the same. Yeah I use WzPad for WhatsApp on my iPad. It’s just a browser wrapper in an app form. It works ok but doesn’t push notifications.
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May 29, 2019 17:01
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track day bro! posted:The only thing I miss is doing the 3D touch on the keyboard to bring up the cursor. Is there another way to do this on iPad cuz I use that so much on my phone. You can long press the spacebar for the cursor thing. I think two finger dragging on the keyboard also works
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May 29, 2019 17:06
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I'm just totally speculating here, but for WhatsApp I think it makes sense because it can't work without a phone number. There's no user account or anything—it's just the phone number on the phone/SIM card. Most people using WhatsApp use it in place of the whatever SMS app came with the phone so they needed a way to make it work seamlessly with the same phone number. There's a desktop app but even that requires your phone to be turned on and within range to work. And for Instagram, it's probably because putting it on iPads when most iPads never leave the house won't give them that sweet location tracking data so they just don't bother.
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May 29, 2019 17:10
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Boris Galerkin posted:I'm just totally speculating here, but for WhatsApp I think it makes sense because it can't work without a phone number.
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May 29, 2019 17:24
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Endless Mike posted:No, but they could make an iPad app that works like the desktop app. Yeah they absolutely could. It’s a little ridiculous I need to use a third party app for it.
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May 29, 2019 17:28
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Boris Galerkin posted:I'm just totally speculating here, but for WhatsApp I think it makes sense because it can't work without a phone number. There's no user account or anything—it's just the phone number on the phone/SIM card. Most people using WhatsApp use it in place of the whatever SMS app came with the phone so they needed a way to make it work seamlessly with the same phone number. There's a desktop app but even that requires your phone to be turned on and within range to work. My iPad and Mac get message forwarding from my phone number in the default iMessage/Messages/etc client.
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May 29, 2019 17:31
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Electric Bugaloo posted:My iPad and Mac get message forwarding from my phone number in the default iMessage/Messages/etc client. Forwarding from WhatsApp?
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May 29, 2019 17:34
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MarcusSA posted:Forwarding from WhatsApp? From my phone. But my point is the number/sim is a tag, WhatsApp isn’t SMS. They could tie it to your AppleID or whatever easily.
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May 29, 2019 17:47
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Electric Bugaloo posted:From my phone. No, it can’t, because it needs to work with all phone numbers. That’s the great thing about WhatsApp: you can give someone your phone number from Greece or wherever to a guy living in Brazil and it just works. And if I already had your number then all I have to do is open the app instead of native messages. And it doesn’t matter if You’re using android and I’m using an iPhone. WhatsApp came out at a time when someone in Germany couldn’t text their neighbor who still had their original phone number from France without paying a premium for the international texting. WhatsApp solved that problem without adding any user accounts to make things complicated.
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May 29, 2019 17:57
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Boris Galerkin posted:No, it can’t, because it needs to work with all phone numbers. That’s the great thing about WhatsApp: you can give someone your phone number from Greece or wherever to a guy living in Brazil and it just works. And if I already had your number then all I have to do is open the app instead of native messages. And it doesn’t matter if You’re using android and I’m using an iPhone. Yeah I was gonna say. Also you can only have WhatsApp installed on one phone. They don’t support letting you have multiple devices. The web app solves this for them since you can use it from any device (including phones). Also if you change your number your WhatsApp still works once you log into the new device.
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May 29, 2019 18:14
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I’ve only done it once a while ago, but changing numbers is also a two step process. IIRC you put in the new SIM card, open WhatsApp and it will say it needs to confirm your identity. WhatsApp isn’t SMS, but for all intents and purposes in the majority of its users it is. Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 18:26 on May 29, 2019 |
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May 29, 2019 18:20
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After using it for a while while traveling I have to say that I actually think it works better vs iMessage. iMessage is great if you are in your home country but it sure can take a poo poo when you travel and start dealing with dodgy signals / trains ect.
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May 29, 2019 18:31
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hatty posted:You can long press the spacebar for the cursor thing. I think two finger dragging on the keyboard also works Cheers I thought there was another way you could do that. And yeah with Whatsapp I meant a companion app like the web one or the MacOS one. It's nice that I can just get all my iMessage and Calls on all my other Apple devices, but I get way more Whatsapp messages. It would be cool if the iPad could do that but eh. I guess whatsapp isn't very big in America then? In Europe everyone seems to use it, it just seems like iMessage but crossplatform.
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May 29, 2019 23:12
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track day bro! posted:Cheers I thought there was another way you could do that.
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May 29, 2019 23:19
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track day bro! posted:I bought a new mini to replace my Nexus 7 which started to randomly discharge its entire battery of a night sitting in my work bag. I think the previous-gen smart covers fit the mini 5 so you should be able to get one of those relatively cheap
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May 29, 2019 23:22
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track day bro! posted:Cheers I thought there was another way you could do that. I use wzpad It’s not big at all here correct.
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I use WhatsApp a fair bit in the US but aside from my wife and a few other friends I convinced to switch, it's mostly to friends in Poland. I normally use WhatsChrome on my pixelbook or whatever other computer I'm on. The iPad option, or lack thereof, sucks. They should make something similar to the desktop app or WhatsChrome for it.
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May 30, 2019 00:27
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shortspecialbus posted:They should make something similar to the desktop app or WhatsChrome for it. Wait, so there are options? And I assume that you can use both the desktop app and your smartphone with the same account?  I thought everybody in the dogpile said that you needed to be on a device with a SIM card or phone number!
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May 30, 2019 01:02
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There are but there isn’t a dedicated app. Wzpad ( the iPad app) is just a browser wrapper. You don’t get a lot of the features that the dedicated app has (notifications). You can log into your account from nearly anywhere and on anything you just miss out on stuff that the app has.
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May 30, 2019 01:06
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Wait, so there are options? And I assume that you can use both the desktop app and your smartphone with the same account? No one said that?
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May 30, 2019 01:16
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Endless Mike posted:No one said that? Boris Galerkin posted:No, it can’t, because it needs to work with all phone numbers. That’s the great thing about WhatsApp: you can give someone your phone number from Greece or wherever to a guy living in Brazil and it just works. And if I already had your number then all I have to do is open the app instead of native messages. And it doesn’t matter if You’re using android and I’m using an iPhone.
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May 30, 2019 01:19
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That’s explaining how the app works and people have said that there is a desktop app as well as third party apps but they are just wrappers for the web view.
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It's not that complex. WhatsApp needs a phone to work, period. It ties to a phone number. All communications must go through the phone, since the phone itself does the encryption/decryption locally - there's no remote server that stores any of that stuff or has the keys. WhatsApp also offers WhatsApp Web, which allows a web browser on the same network as the phone (i.e. same LAN, same WiFi, either/or) to basically be a front-end for the phone. This allows you to use WhatsApp from a computer or pretty much anything with a browser. There are also browser extensions (i.e. WhatsChrome, which also works nicely as a ChromeOS App) and some desktop apps (MacOS and Windows) that basically wrap the whole thing into effectively an application. WhatsApp themselves offer at least the desktop apps, they may also make and support the browser extensions - I'm not sure. Either way you use the same WhatsApp for Web activation method to enable those to work, which is scanning a QR code on the screen from the extension/app/webpage/whatever with WhatsApp on your phone. Only one of those can be "active" at a time, and if you're switching between computers you need to hit a thing to make wherever you are the "active" WhatsApp Web front end. It's not difficult or anything, you don't have to re-scan the QR code or anything unless you're paranoid about security and deactivate them whenever you leave the screen or whatever. What they don't make is a dedicated iPad app that does the same thing. There is a 3rd party one, Wzpad, that more or less does it, but it sucks at notifications. You can also probably use safari or chrome on an iPad via WhatsApp Web but it's going to pretty well suck. ssb fucked around with this message at 01:35 on May 30, 2019 |
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May 30, 2019 01:32
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MarcusSA posted:After using it for a while while traveling I have to say that I actually think it works better vs iMessage. But what is nice about iMessage is if you travel and get a new number nobody has to know or care.
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~Coxy posted:But what is nice about iMessage is if you travel and get a new number nobody has to know or care. True except for when you drop your data signal and it reverts to text. Edit: it doesn’t auto do that anymore does it? It just fails and you have to select it correct?
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It's always been a setting that you could toggle off. Whether or not it's turned on or off by default, I couldn't tell you since I've always had it off since iMessages launched.
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May 30, 2019 05:23
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It’s been an option to send it as a sms as a fallback for a while.~Coxy posted:But what is nice about iMessage is if you travel and get a new number nobody has to know or care. You’re not thinking about it right. Every. Single. Person. In Europe uses WhatsApp instead of Messages.app or AndroidVersionofMessages.app. When people say “text me” what they are really saying is “send me a message on WhatsApp.” Before WhatsApp three students living in the same house, that came from different countries (and so had different country/area codes), could not text each other without one or both parties paying a premium for international texting, even if they were literally sitting next to each other. Think of all the people you know with phone numbers from different area codes. Imagine if it would cost you an extra 50 cents or whatever just to send texts to them. That’s what it was like before WhatsApp took over Europe. And that’s just Europe. Other countries like Brazil iirc text messages were expensive or something, so now they all use WhatsApp too. (Side note: my Brazilian friends seem to all be big into leaving short recorded voice messages/clips instead of actually typing anything. I’ve seen them have entire conversations doing this and it’s kinda weird to me.) Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 05:32 on May 30, 2019 |
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May 30, 2019 05:29
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Boris Galerkin posted:(Side note: my Brazilian friends seem to all be big into leaving short recorded voice messages/clips instead of actually typing anything. I’ve seen them have entire conversations doing this and it’s kinda weird to me.) Oh god I’ve seen this and yeah it’s so weird. I do wish iMessage fired off messages like WhatsApp though. Doesn’t matter if you have data or not it stores them till you do. Where as iMessage kinda weirds out and tries to perpetually send it and just fails at a certain point forcing you to resend it when you have data. Like I said WhatsApp is awesome for going in and out of signal and hooking up to WiFi when you are at a hotel or in the tube. Anyway if you want WhatsApp on the iPad WzPad is about as good as you can get but it doesn’t offer notifications (it does beep though for a few messages every so often which is weird). MarcusSA fucked around with this message at 05:55 on May 30, 2019 |
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I got an 11 Pro with the Smart Keyboard Folio yesterday and the form factor and keyboard experience is much improved compared to the last time I had a Pro and Keyboard. I like how it actually gets locked down in all configurations instead of flapping around like the old style ones. I had an OG 12.9 and Smart Keyboard and that thing was just unwieldy by comparison. In fact, I'm selling the 12.9 Smart Keyboard in SA Mart if anyone is interested.
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Boris Galerkin posted:It’s been an option to send it as a sms as a fallback for a while.
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Surprised not to see this here yet. https://twitter.com/stroughtonsmith/status/1135653636145590273?s=21 And it works with magic mice/magic trackpad if you have them.
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Thwomp posted:Surprised not to see this here yet.
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Is there gesture support with a trackpad or is it just pointer stuff?
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Question Mark Mound posted:At this stage I don't get why they wouldn't just add it as a normal-rear end feature with a normal looking cursor. Because it's an accessibility feature designed for accessible pointing devices right now with no gesture/scrolling/anything else.
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So this is pretty cool iPadOS 13 + DS4 controller + PS4 Remote play app.
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Picking up my new iPad Air with keyboard tonight, pretty stoked. Now I can steam link games with the steelcase controller to play in bed or on the couch! Among a bunch of other things I miss doing on my previous Air 2 which got passed down after the Air 1 my kid was using died.
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mattfl posted:So this is pretty cool Now stream Microsoft Golf for Windows 95.
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