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AceOfFlames posted:"Culture fit" always terrifies me and makes me think if I lose my job no one will hire me again. I don't like drinking, I don't like sports, my hobbies are mostly Internet and sleeping. Am I going to have to pretend to be something I'm not just to get hired? well do you like working? bosses love that! if you don't like working...well how were you going to win all those productivity awards?
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AceOfFlames posted:"Culture fit" always terrifies me and makes me think if I lose my job no one will hire me again. I don't like drinking, I don't like sports, my hobbies are mostly Internet and sleeping. Am I going to have to pretend to be something I'm not just to get hired? Do you work IT? You'll fit right in!
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Jun 4, 2019 09:18
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I thought YT actively scrubbed porn, or at least they did a long time ago This stuff is more nefarious. Basically pedophiles get videos that seem normal to most people and group them together. Like the article says, videos of kids in swimsuits at the pool or a family thing or kids doing gymnastics. They only started to stand out to people who pay attention to YouTube stuff because some of them had hundreds of thousands of views. There was also a trend of them getting kids to do "challenges" that were really just fetishes. This seems particularly bad, because like the article gives a little link to, all of this poo poo was happening a few months ago and apparently YouTube still hasn't done anything to fix it. They have a system to auto-disable comments to limit grooming and perverts putting timecodes of "suggestive" frames into the comments, but that's it. It's still perfectly happy to let the little amoral algorithm build pedophile playlists.
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Jun 4, 2019 09:39
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:This stuff is more nefarious. Basically pedophiles get videos that seem normal to most people and group them together. Like the article says, videos of kids in swimsuits at the pool or a family thing Are youtube playlists actually algorithm generated? I thought that was just the recommendations, which are mostly "similar videos to the video you have been watching plus some generally well-clicked ones i.e. neonazi poo poo", and playlists are user made and just get recommended when you watch a video that happens to be in someone's public playlist.
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Jun 4, 2019 10:12
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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suck my woke dick posted:Are youtube playlists actually algorithm generated? I thought that was just the recommendations, which are mostly "similar videos to the video you have been watching plus some generally well-clicked ones i.e. neonazi poo poo", and playlists are user made and just get recommended when you watch a video that happens to be in someone's public playlist. you guys all need to read the actual article the author is referring to the algorithmically generated recommendations; because the videos are so frequented by paedophiles you end up with a rabbit hole wherein the recommendations for one seemingly innocent video with semi-clothed children in it are all other videos with semi-clothed children in them to the point where it's not so innocent
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Jun 4, 2019 11:09
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AceOfFlames posted:"Culture fit" always terrifies me and makes me think if I lose my job no one will hire me again. I don't like drinking, I don't like sports, my hobbies are mostly Internet and sleeping. Am I going to have to pretend to be something I'm not just to get hired? Doesn't everyone do this for every job?
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Jun 4, 2019 12:00
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Breaking news: Fox Acquires Henhouse Startup: https://twitter.com/engadget/status/1135871277036691457
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Jun 4, 2019 13:15
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Karatela posted:You could force YouTube to simply never let specific videos ever be noticed by the recommendation algorithm without being explicitly ticked as an option by the uploader? Unlisted videos exist already, this isn't hard, and even if it is hard, they should loving do it anyway. (Also spend more on moderation.) How could you force them to do that? What law would you write which would make that obligatory on YouTube and other sites? I mean, they absolutely have the capability to do it, and they absolutely should do it, but I don't know how you would force them to do it from a legislative perspective. They are already aware of the problem and they have the means to fix it, but they choose not to. Beyond that, you'd still have people uploading videos (innocently) checking that box. What would probably be easier to do even with existing laws is to ban comments on any video featuring minors, and that would at least get rid of these sick fucks sharing timestamps in the video comments themselves. This could probably be accomplished by using laws against communicating with a minor for a sexual purpose, since it would only take a handful of lawsuits before YouTube realizes it's not cost-effective to solve the problem any other way. Also, the people who are asking kids to do "yoga challenges" or "gymnastics challenges" and then upload, should go to loving prison and I think we have the laws we need to do that already, so we can start there before we try to deal with the unpleasant and intractable problem that literally any photo or video of a child in any situation could be spank-bank material for a pedophile.
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Jun 4, 2019 13:50
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:This seems particularly bad, because like the article gives a little link to, all of this poo poo was happening a few months ago and apparently YouTube still hasn't done anything to fix it. They have a system to auto-disable comments to limit grooming and perverts putting timecodes of "suggestive" frames into the comments, but that's it. It's still perfectly happy to let the little amoral algorithm build pedophile playlists. It's not just that YouTube isn't doing anything, they're actively refusing to. The article mentions that YouTube initially said they'd remove videos with children in them from the recommendation engine, then backtracked and said what about all the children that make money off the ads that show on their videos. PT6A posted:How could you force them to do that? What law would you write which would make that obligatory on YouTube and other sites? Require positive consent in the form of a physical permission slip to include minors in user and automatically generated content. Basically a COPPA on steroids.
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Jun 4, 2019 14:01
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Just ban videos of children. No one wants to see your kids anyway Janet
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Jun 4, 2019 14:19
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duz posted:Require positive consent in the form of a physical permission slip to include minors in user and automatically generated content. Basically a COPPA on steroids. when I think of legislative success stories for internet regulation I think of COPPA
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Jun 4, 2019 14:20
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PT6A posted:What would probably be easier to do even with existing laws is to ban comments on any video featuring minors Wouldn't that cover like, all virtually all totally normal media?
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Jun 4, 2019 14:21
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duz posted:Require positive consent in the form of a physical permission slip to include minors in user and automatically generated content. Basically a COPPA on steroids. I think that's a reasonable step to take, but it's going to fundamentally change how people share innocent content and make some of them pretty upset. And it doesn't actually solve the problem because some subset of parents/kids will do it (again, for innocent purposes), and pedophiles will just share those videos/photos instead. Social media would be instantly and permanently changed, and while I don't really give a gently caress about that personally because social media is a loving cesspit, I think there'd be significant resistance to it from a lot of people.
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Jun 4, 2019 14:22
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Wouldn't that cover like, all virtually all totally normal media? Yes. Oh dear, how will we be able to consume media without being to comment on it instantly on the same page? It's a feature, not a bug. Remember that pervert who made shows for some kids' network who was including a bunch of shots of bare feet because he's basically the pedophile version of Quentin Tarantino? That ain't good either, and it shouldn't get a pass because it's "traditional media."
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Jun 4, 2019 14:25
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PT6A posted:Yes. Oh dear, how will we be able to consume media without being to comment on it instantly on the same page? That is the funny meme answer, but it's not like it's practical to ban conversation about game of thrones because bran stark is in it.
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Jun 4, 2019 15:13
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:That is the funny meme answer, but it's not like it's practical to ban conversation about game of thrones because bran stark is in it. I'm talking about the comments on the video page, not discussion about videos on other third-party sites.
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Jun 4, 2019 15:22
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PT6A posted:I'm talking about the comments on the video page, not discussion about videos on other third-party sites. What does that do though? That seems like an absurdly cumbersome rule that also has a comically huge loophole. Like you'd ban discussing the red wedding on any site that features a video of it because it has a minor in the scene but like, you can talk about it on a different site? Or would it include some sort of creepy highschool principal dress code thing where like young sheldon is immune to the laws because of some weird "gross, no one would jerk off to him" then some leering set of rules for things girls can't do?
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Jun 4, 2019 15:47
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Sir we're demonetizing and hiding your video of advocating protest about a cop caught on camera executing an innocent man. There was a kid walking by at 35 seconds and a pedophile might jack off to that. We've also deleted all of the discussion where you were advising people on how to attend, a pedophile might have secretly been revealing the coordinates of the next Nambla meeting. Just produce good content like reading a corporate press release, it's Safe Content.
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Jun 4, 2019 15:55
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pretty bold to assume that anyone at this point would not be in favor of preventing game of thrones from being shown at all in any circumstance
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Jun 4, 2019 16:05
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VideoGameVet posted:That new short video posting app (TikTok) uses soft-porn as the advertising pitch from the Facebook ads I've seen. TikTok has a massive sexualization of children problem that I’m not sure it is possible to address. It is a very bad app.
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Jun 4, 2019 17:33
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there's also that insanely creepy preteen ASMR trend.
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Jun 4, 2019 17:34
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This has been dragged massively away from the initial point, that YouTube knowingly creates recommendation playlists that are designed to surface seemingly innocent non-csa imagery to paedophiles.
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Jun 4, 2019 18:42
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Groovelord Neato posted:there's also that insanely creepy preteen ASMR trend. Do I even want to know?
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Once ASMR content gained enough popularity the meaning shifted to what's essentially roleplay and a lot of it is just girlfriend experience/personal attention content or just straight up talking about fetish poo poo to the mic. And since the preteen dream of fame now involves being a streamer taking requests live, pedos are capitalizing on that
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Jun 4, 2019 19:12
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Nevvy Z posted:Just ban videos of children. No one wants to see your kids anyway Janet I would be thrilled with this, it’s disgusting how many ways folks are coming up with to exploit children. Can we maybe reduce the amount of “lesser” child exploitation as well? Influencers using their children as child actors without paying them as such, forcing them to participate in their videos, poo poo like that. YouTube, Facebook, et al are all headquartered in California which has strict rules about child actors and how their pay belongs to them. But if it’s online, that all goes out the window. There was a big expose about this a while back, but I can’t find it at the moment.
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Ruffian Price posted:Once ASMR content gained enough popularity the meaning shifted to what's essentially roleplay and a lot of it is just girlfriend experience/personal attention content or just straight up talking about fetish poo poo to the mic. And since the preteen dream of fame now involves being a streamer taking requests live, pedos are capitalizing on that weird implicit softcore pornography has become weird explicit softporn pornography? what are the odds
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nepetaMisekiryoiki posted:Sir we're demonetizing and hiding your video of advocating protest about a cop caught on camera executing an innocent man. There was a kid walking by at 35 seconds and a pedophile might jack off to that. We've also deleted all of the discussion where you were advising people on how to attend, a pedophile might have secretly been revealing the coordinates of the next Nambla meeting. Execution videos are already banned on most sites. you dont need to invent reasons to defend pedophiles
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Jun 5, 2019 04:37
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FilthyImp posted:Had someone say they wouldn't hire someone if they came in wearing dress shoes with white socks. When people apply rear end in a top hat shibboleth tests like that, I consider the interview well lost.
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Jun 5, 2019 05:36
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Maybe it's refuge in audacity, pretending you had some dumb silly reason to fail the candidate so you don't have to admit your oldschool biases, against women and disabled people for instance 
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Jun 5, 2019 06:29
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ToxicSlurpee posted:No, people know what they're doing for basic hiring. It's easy to get it right most of the time if you're looking for two hands, a pulse, and the ability to show up consistently. The snag is that there's literally no way to know in 30 to 90 minutes if somebody is a competent tech professional or not. This is why contract to hire keeps cropping up but even that has its limits and a lot of tech professionals, especially the top talent that has a lot of options, is going to "lol nope" as soon as they see that phrase anywhere. Hrm. Almost like an organization formed of technical professionals for their mutual benefit could be of value in getting workers into roles that match their expertise.
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Unoriginal Name posted:Execution videos are already banned on most sites. you dont need to invent reasons to defend pedophiles It's actually called ephebophiles, 
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Ruffian Price posted:Maybe it's refuge in audacity, pretending you had some dumb silly reason to fail the candidate so you don't have to admit your oldschool biases, against women and disabled people for instance It's 1000% this.
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"your honor, as you can see 80% of the hiring panel had written stupid blog posts about an arbitrary nitpicking criterion by which they fail job candidates..."
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Jun 5, 2019 13:51
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I once failed a job interview because I ordered a plain hamburger with pickles at some place in Palo Alto. Apparently I wasn't adventurous enough. Like, you ordered and they just shut down the interview right then?
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I once failed a job interview because I ordered a plain hamburger with pickles at some place in Palo Alto. Apparently I wasn't adventurous enough. Yeah uh you don’t want to work for an organization like that anyways, holy poo poo.  I get that with Americans we are spending more and more time at work (gotta Your ideal accountant may have charm but Ted loving Bundy had it too.
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Managers are people and, like people, some of them are loving stupid or have unexplainable opinions on some things. I once got denied a job because I mentioned that I like to program games in my spare time to the CEO. The CTO and lead dev were like "gently caress yeah hire this dude!" only for the CEO to go "nah, he makes games."
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Managers are people and, like people, some of them are loving stupid or have unexplainable opinions on some things. Yet another example of the discrimination gamers face in this country smh
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Ripoff posted:Yeah uh you don’t want to work for an organization like that anyways, holy poo poo. Turns out being performatively personable has little to no bearing on the ability to do one's job and a bunch of HR drones who failed into their career majoring in bullshit business "degrees" aren't the best at determining the optimum candidates for technical positions. In fact, basing hiring on the person who can bullshit their way through an interview with some theater major who grabbed an MBA with some spare credit hours when they realized they could get more money for being a soulless husk of a person is probably the worst way to do it. Real talk? What do HR people do? What are you accomplishing in your life? bill_hicks_marketer_rant_find.replace_marketer _w_human_resources.txt
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Like, you ordered and they just shut down the interview right then? e: Also, Google did a study a decade ago and determined that face-to-face interviews were no better than random chance at picking good employees. AFAIK they still do them, so  (Google was not the interviewer in the hamburger thing.)
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The damage control has started (but they still aren't banning Crowder) https://twitter.com/verge/status/1136301669778710529?s=21 I'll believe it when I see it
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