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Madkal posted:I never understood why Young Animal wasn't brought in under Vertigo. I understand that they wanted to give Way his own boutique books/whatever but he could have still had his own line under the Vertigo umbrella. I assume part of the split was keeping DCU properties out of Vert. Plus it's looking like YA is gonna outlive it, so  Looking through wikipedia, post-Berger Vert I've tried and liked: Post Berger American Vampire Trillium The Kitchen Art Ops Sheriff of Babylon Unfollow Deathbed Dark Night: A True Batman Story The Dreaming American Carnage Border Town. Can't deny I liked those few issues before the author was revealed to be an abusive sexual predator. E: There's also Astro City and Sandman Overture, which I'm sure are wonderful, but I'm way behind on the original runs. Wiki seems incomplete. The Kitchen wasn't on their list. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jun 4, 2019 |
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Madkal posted:I never understood why Young Animal wasn't brought in under Vertigo. I understand that they wanted to give Way his own boutique books/whatever but he could have still had his own line under the Vertigo umbrella. Because YA still touched the DCU, it wasn't walled off like Vertigo was at one point.
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Jun 4, 2019 19:07
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When Berger stepped down in 2012, she handed the reigns over to Shelley Bond (nee Roeberg) who was with Vertigo since it formed in 1993. They fired her in 2016, and generally DC hollowed out everyone in the Vertigo office over the course of the 2010s. While having Berger at the helm (and hiring the editors) is important, if you look at the big Vertigo books of the past 25 years and who actually edited them: 100 Bullets - Axel Alonso, Will Dennis American Vampire - Mark Doyle Daytripper - Brandon Montclare, Pornsak Pichetshote DMZ - Will Dennis, Axel Alonso, Will Dennis Fables - Shelley Bond Hellblazer (Vertigo Era) - Stuart Moore, Casey Seijas, Shelley Bond Invisibles - Stuart Moore, Shelley Bond Preacher - Stuart Moore, Axel Alonso Sandman - Karen Berger Scalped - Will Dennis Sweet Tooth - Brandon Montclaire, Pornsak Pichetshote, Mark Doyle Transmetropolitan - Stuart Moore, Shelley Bond, Cliff Chiang, Axel Alonso, Tony Bedard, Heidi MacDonald Unwritten - Pornsak Pichetshote, Shelley Bond, Gregory Lockard Y The Last Man - Heidi MacDonald, Will Dennis Obviously twenty five years is a long time to hold onto any given personnel, but DC has generally done an awful job in the past ten+ years of holding onto any of these people. Axel Alonso got poached by Marvel in 2000, ascending to EiC in 2011, eventually getting replaced by Akira Yoshida in 2017. Will Dennis left/got let go around the same time as Bond, and is currently a "freelance editor" doing mostly Image books by Azzarello and Lemire but also Batman Damned, somehow? Mark Doyle jumped over to the Batman office in 2014 and apparently quit over conflicts with Tom King. He edited the Young Animal books, and is going the Gaimanverse books right now as well as the Vertigo line going on right now. Heidi jumped back into journalism and is doing The Beat now, and Moore, Montclare, Bedard, and Chiang are all writers/artists and not editing anymore. They fired Pichetshote, Joan Hilty, and Jonathan Vankin all at once at the end of 2010, which was right when DC was initially restructuring as DC Entertainment and planning to move from New York to Burbank, which was honestly when the writing was probably on the wall for Vertigo as an autonomous publishing house under Berger.
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Jun 4, 2019 20:04
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I believe Andy Khouri (formerly of Comics Alliance) is currently shouldering the bulk of Vertigo's editorial work but I may be mistaken as he has pretty much stopped posting about work on Facebook and we don't really chat much these days so it feels weird to ask him.
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Jun 4, 2019 20:15
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https://twitter.com/BRIANMBENDIS/status/1136094139584397312 Young Justice isn't bad. So... maybe yay?
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Jun 5, 2019 13:05
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Justice League 25 was amazing, and is peak justice league, I haven't enjoyed JL this much since Grant Morrison (pbuh). Batman 77 on the other hand, was garbage. Just garbage.bleh
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Jun 5, 2019 16:39
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McCloud posted:Batman 77 on the other hand, was garbage. Just garbage.bleh You've only got a few more issue left before it's all over.
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Jun 5, 2019 16:52
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McCloud posted:Batman 77 on the other hand, was garbage. Just garbage.bleh i didn't even know comics got recap episodes
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Jun 5, 2019 18:33
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Dawgstar posted:https://twitter.com/BRIANMBENDIS/status/1136094139584397312 I'm thinking this is for 'Superman' and involves Jon meeting/joining them, which is the reason he was aged up.
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Jun 5, 2019 19:19
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Teenage Fansub posted:I'm thinking this is for 'Superman' and involves Jon meeting/joining them, which is the reason he was aged up. If Bendis puts Jon on the Legion I will face God and walk backwards into hell.
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Jun 5, 2019 19:31
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That doesn't seem like a bad idea to me?
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Jun 5, 2019 22:23
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It’s a meh idea in as much as it would feel like Bendis trying to get rid of him by turning him to the Legion and effectively bench the character
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Jun 5, 2019 22:51
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Bendis needs to do the thing he did to the Avengers with the Legion, add big hitters like Superman, Batman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Lantern and Martian Manhunter. Fly off the shelves I'll tell ya
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Jun 5, 2019 23:26
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Bendis needs to do the thing he did to the Avengers with the Legion, add big hitters like Superman, Batman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Lantern and Martian Manhunter. 
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Jun 5, 2019 23:27
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Dawgstar posted:https://twitter.com/BRIANMBENDIS/status/1136094139584397312 I DIDN'T MEAN TO BAIT THE MONKEY'S PAW I SWEAR
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Jun 5, 2019 23:38
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AFoolAndHisMoney posted:It’s a meh idea in as much as it would feel like Bendis trying to get rid of him by turning him to the Legion and effectively bench the character I presume he'd be the star of the LOSH series if my dumb guessing turns out true.
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Jun 5, 2019 23:41
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Jon needs to go back to being 12. DCeased is already shaping up to be more interesting than Heroes in Crisis by shear force of doing things in a straight forward way and not leaning on ~mystery~
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Jun 5, 2019 23:41
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Bendis needs to do the thing he did to the Avengers with the Legion, add big hitters like Superman, Batman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Lantern and Martian Manhunter. This book existed. It lasted like 27 issues. Guy Gardner was a girl
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Jun 6, 2019 00:41
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I really appreciate who they killed in DCeased #2. It really sets things up as not being another Batman Saves the Dystopia story.
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Roth posted:That doesn't seem like a bad idea to me? I get that having (a) Superboy on the Legion is both a good idea and a classic one, but I don't like it being this Superboy. Look, maybe I'm just holding onto the Gleason/Tomasi era a little too fondly but I didn't like it when Bendis aged Jon up* and I especially don't like the idea of him getting shipped off to the future. I liked Superman having a family, sue me. Aging his kid up and then sending him 1000 years away effectively destroys that. *I didn't like it then, but I figured I could learn to live with it if it led to a good story. But so far the only story it's set up for is a bunch of Jor-El poo poo in Action which l could care less about, and for Lois and Clark to have spy adventures without having a kid around. Which like... I don't know, Batman has stories without Robin all the time so you can't say Superboy was a hurdle to letting Lois and Clark do their own things. TwoPair fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Jun 6, 2019 |
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TwoPair posted:I get that having (a) Superboy on the Legion is both a good idea and a classic one, but I don't like it being this Superboy. Look, maybe I'm just holding onto the Gleason/Tomasi era a little too fondly but I didn't like it when Bendis aged Jon up* and I especially don't like the idea of him getting shipped off to the future. I liked Superman having a family, sue me. Aging his kid up and then sending him 1000 years away effectively destroys that. Tbf the nuclear domestic family thing is a much bigger deal for Clark as opposed to Batman who cannot see a child without sizing him up for a Robin costume so it's harder to ignore
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Jun 6, 2019 05:23
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Also this is just Teenage Fansub speculating on a sentence.
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Jun 6, 2019 05:57
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Fair, I suppose I just thought it sounded very plausible and jumped the outrage gun.
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So will Event Leviathan end before or after Doomsday Clock? I'm betting before.
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Endless Mike posted:So will Event Leviathan end before or after Doomsday Clock? I'm betting before. You know those paradoxes about Achilles trying to catch up to a tortoise?
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Preview of the new Doom Patrol. James Harvey is so good. https://screenrant.com/doom-patrol-..._campaign=SR-TW       
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Thanks to DC Universe I'd forgotten for a hot second we had an all-female duo in Hawk and Dove. Then Hawk died. Oh, well.
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Dawgstar posted:Thanks to DC Universe I'd forgotten for a hot second we had an all-female duo in Hawk and Dove. Look for the one from the 90s that last 3 issues. It is very lol
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Green Lantern #8 is a great stand alone issue if you want a weird rear end GL/GA story where they team up to fire a giant arrow at a sniper on the moon.
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you left out the best part: that they do so while high as gently caress on souls
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I want to like GL but it just feels like Morrison is more interested in crazy out there ideas over characterization and cohesive story telling, which is pretty much GMos MO anyway.
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It was pretty trippy; thus far though I think I liked the becoming a Darkstar issue best.
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I'll admit I'm a Marvel over DC kid, but this is an evil tweet. https://twitter.com/GWillowWilson/status/1137932520626958336?s=19
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Jun 10, 2019 09:08
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Not when I've quit your run 
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I dropped it after The Just War was a decompressed drag with a flimsy take on Ares reborn and some awful, inconsistent art. I take that it didn't get better?
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Bendis is teasing a new thing called Millennium for tomorrow. https://twitter.com/BRIANMBENDIS/status/1137958036423577600 He's also been posting Legion stuff for the last week, so I'm expecting it's a rollout of titles like his Wonder Comics. Maybe not another event miniseries right after Leviathan, but who knows. It might be fun to bring back the line-wide gimmick month, a-la DC One Million. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Jun 10, 2019 |
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I'm enjoying that Wilson is actually doing something with the WW mythos and tying up loose ends that shoulda been tied up a long time ago, but so far there hasn't been a whole lot of epic, memorable moments or issues. It ain't exactly nothing enough to be filler, but it feels like we're still waiting for something truly important to happen.
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Skwirl posted:I'll admit I'm a Marvel over DC kid, but this is an evil tweet. Steve Trevor's rear end is grass.
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Wasn't the last time DC did a Millennium event it got spoiled terribly and they changed the villain at the last minute? Or was that another event? Also talking about BMB I am really enjoying Young Justice but that's more to do with the artwork. Been ages since I read a comic where I just take in the panel and everything that is going on in the panel.
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