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If we're doing Lynch-style stuff, I have to put in a recommendation for the films of Luis Buñuel. The Avenging Angel is probably the most obvious comparison but my favorite is That Obscure Object of Desire. Most of his movies have surrealist touches to a lesser or greater degree but always in service of the overall theme and feel.
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Criminal Minded posted:Stanley Kubrick's favorite film was Eraserhead. 
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Wait, really? I’m surprised you didn’t know this! He made the cast and crew of The Shining watch it before shooting.
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Escobarbarian posted:I’m surprised you didn’t know this! He made the cast and crew of The Shining watch it before shooting. So Eyes Wide Shut really might've been influenced by Lynch, then. Huh. That's awesome!
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Yeah, the story is that Kubrick approached Lynch when he met him on the set of The Elephant Man and gushed about it. That must’ve been a hell of a moment for him... Eraserhead would be staggering in any context, but when I remember that it was made on a shoestring budget by a director with no features to his name while he was still studying at AFI, my eyes kinda glaze over. It shouldn’t be possible to be that good that quick. Also, Sissy Spacek, who was married to Eraserhead’s production designer, Jack Fisk, was instrumental in funding the film’s shoot.
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ATTENTION: There are still Twin Peaks prints available from Mondo right now. This may not last - get them ASAP if you’re interested in either of the two sets available. https://mondotees.com/ You MUST complete checkout to guarantee your purchase. Good luck friends!
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Mondo charges way too much for everything.
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The limited event soundtrack on double vinyl is out today too and looks amazing. Will complete that set nicely.
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RIP to Peggy Lipton. https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-me-peggy-lipton-dead-20190511-story.html I’m so glad Twin Peaks finally got to bring her and Big Ed together. 
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Criminal Minded posted:RIP to Peggy Lipton.  You're right, though. At least her character got a happy ending with the love of her life
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Given the huge gap between season 2 and season 3, it really is quite remarkable how many of the cast were still around to return, and how well they worked around those who couldn't or were too sick to do much (Log Lady  )The only regret I have about season 3 is that we didn't get Michael Ontkean as Sheriff Truman back, him and Cooper being reunited would have been so wonderful.
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Criminal Minded posted:RIP to Peggy Lipton. I'm admittedly having a bad day, but I'm actually really gutted by this news
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Season 3 really missed Michael Ontkean....I hope we get to see him again
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Chromatics are playing here tonight & I'd love to see 'em, but A. I don't have the money, & B. they aren't playing at the Roadhouse so it wouldn't be the same. James has always been cool though.
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Criminal Minded posted:RIP to Peggy Lipton. I'm going to scream dance with her picture in remembrance.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Chromatics are playing here tonight & I'd love to see 'em, but A. I don't have the money, & B. they aren't playing at the Roadhouse so it wouldn't be the same. Oh gently caress, thanks for the reminder. I got tickets like months ago, and I don't want this to be another situation like PJ Harvey where I sit around all day thinking, "Wasn't I going to do something tonight?" and remember two days later. They're not here for another month, tho. Also, if any Portland goons are interested, I ended up with two tickets and my +1 might have bailed already, so PM me if you're interested.
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I just read secret history and final dossier over the course of like 4 days. Mark Frost really knows how to grab my attention.
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Breadallelogram posted:I just read secret history and final dossier over the course of like 4 days. Mark Frost really knows how to grab my attention. Lynch & Frost compliment each other’s strengths and approaches in the coolest ways. They’re a wonderful duo.
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Well, I am finally doing my long long long awaited re-watch of the series in proper chronological order without skipping anything. Before I was going from episode to episode and re-watching bits and pieces. But I just had SO much fun, 2 years ago, when I was watching this episode by episode as it aired. I truly cannot believe it's already been 2 years since the show aired, time just freaking soars by after you hit 30, it seems. But, like... I've watched a lot of mainstream crap (entertaining or fun but ultimately hollow or shallow) in these 2 years, like catching up on the MCU and other stuff. Watching a film like Green Book for instance, I feel like it was a decent film and the production did a good job, but I took issue more with the way the music and the editing and the pacing all seemed so geared to make me feel this one, specific way - which is the right way. A film like that - not that it is bad per se - feels almost like a total inverse of what Lynch does in terms of NEVER clearly pointing the audience to view and interpret things through the specific lens of social injustice, and making the context of his film prejudicial attitudes in America. Obviously it's about other things - friendship, music, some subtle anachronistic fun, etc... But it doesn't lend itself to multiple interpretations, and the same could be said for MANY films purporting to be complex or 'deep' that really are quite rote and straightforward. For instance, I was watching episode 3, and the drug-addicted mother taking her last pill with cheap whiskey while saying "ONE-ONE-NINE" to her child or the room in general... Made sense. Made so much more sense and seemed to fit perfectly into the episode. And I feel like... the way in which it makes sense to me is entirely unique, and has to do with deeply personal feelings, and memories, and intuitions. I can only think of a tiny handful other filmmakers who were actually capable of creating on that level - Kubrick probably, Pasolini, Jodorowski... Those are the big ones off the top of my head right now. But yeah, I just... watching the quieter scenes like the Doc using his apparatus to easily apply gold spray-paint to multiple shovels at once. Or of course the infamous Green Onions sweeping scene, which gets better every time I watch it. That's what impresses me the most. I honestly thought I would enjoy it LESS on the rewatch, not more, because there wouldn't be the mystery/excitement. Yet I find... when you watch the show on its own terms without expectations, you appreciate it on its own terms. When you aren't on the edge of your seqt hoping Dougie will turn into Super-Cooper and save the day in the next episode for seriously about a dozen straight episodes, you appreciate the Dougie scenes (and everything, really) in a new way. kaworu fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Jun 4, 2019 |
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kaworu posted:That's what impresses me the most. I honestly thought I would enjoy it LESS on the rewatch, not more, because there wouldn't be the mystery/excitement. Yet I find... when you watch the show on its own terms without expectations, you appreciate it on its own terms. When you aren't on the edge of your seqt hoping Dougie will turn into Super-Cooper and save the day in the next episode for seriously about a dozen straight episodes, you appreciate the Dougie scenes (and everything, really) in a new way. Ugh, now I want to do a rewatch. It's been a while for me. I have the Blu-Rays, I just need to commit to binging it. I'll see screenshots from it on Twitter from time to time and they always excite me, even if they're from what many might consider a "dull" scene. I just know how they work in the fabric of spacetime that Lynch has created and appreciate that.
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It’s been like 2 or 3 weeks since the GoT finale and I haven’t thought about it once despite being a super fan all the way from the start but I think about Twin Peaks (especially fwwm and season 3) every day still.
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Sudden random thought that alongside everything and everyone else 'holy crap Tim Roth and Jennifer Jason Leigh just happened to be in this' I mean it's not like they need the recognition but still, wow.
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fullroundaction posted:It’s been like 2 or 3 weeks since the GoT finale and I haven’t thought about it once despite being a super fan all the way from the start but I think about Twin Peaks (especially fwwm and season 3) every day still.
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Shows like Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones always struck me as made to be talked about, generate week-to-week buzz with the latest outrageous twist, and that way drive up subscription numbers. Not so much for any kind of long-lasting cultural impact.
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Breaking Bad definitely has cultural impact still, even though it ended 6 years ago, while Game of Thrones ended 3 weeks ago and it already feels like it’s disappearing from the cultural zeitgeist due to its last season being so lazy and lovely. Breaking Bad was also a much better show in pretty much every aspect as well and is deserving of its reputation. SeANMcBAY fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jun 5, 2019 |
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Better Call Saul is still running and a very good series in its own right IMO.
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Breaking Bad is maybe the most overrated show ever made. I won't be taking questions at this time.
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Breaking Bad maintained a very high level of quality right to the very last episode, whereas by the end Game of Thrones had like 50% of the viewers just watching because of obligation and they were relieved to have it over with. So those people were anxious to just put the show behind them and forget about it. Breaking Bad had fans cherishing ever scene right up to the end. That said, neither of them had the cultural impact of a Twin Peaks just because of how television was back in the early 90s. If you were the #1 show on the air that meant you had massive viewer share and t.v. today just can't compare to the simpler landscape that existed back then.
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Agreed that Breaking Bad deserves its good reputation. That show is still incredible, and the ending is perfect. Game of Thrones has been uneven since season 5 and by season 7 dove right off a cliff.Basebf555 posted:That said, neither of them had the cultural impact of a Twin Peaks just because of how television was back in the early 90s. If you were the #1 show on the air that meant you had massive viewer share and t.v. today just can't compare to the simpler landscape that existed back then. Yes, it's really not fair to compare the success of any piece of media today to the situation 30 years ago, not just due to the decentralized nature of access but the sheer volume of content. Studio features today are still distributed in a similar manner to back then, and even they can't possibly reach the level of cultural dominance of blockbusters from the 80's and 90's. Studios released ~3000 films a year in the 90's and closer to ~10,000 today. There are a dozen or so "summer movies" in any given year now, and no single one of them sticks around most venues for more than a month. So, even though Avengers breaks records, its domestic take (adjusted for inflation) is still far behind the original Star Wars movies, or E.T., Jaws, or Jurassic Park. They were absolute juggernauts that dominated the zeitgeist for months upon their release. It's nearly impossible for something today to pull that off.
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Most shows also have an extremely narrow story scope headed into their finales, eg the only thing that “mattered” in the final season of GoT was who was going to end up on the throne. Up until the final scene in TP I still had no clue what was going to happen or what it all meant (in a good way). Not many people other than Lynch could really pull that off.
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Xealot posted:Studios released ~3000 films a year in the 90's and closer to ~10,000 today.
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GoT had a ton of poo poo that mattered, they just forgot about it
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zelah posted:Am I reading this wrong? Are you saying that 10,000 copies of movies are sent to theaters, or that 10,000 movies are made each year? Movies are made each year. Obviously, only a fraction of those are things that get wide theatrical release (vs. smaller local market releases, VOD/home video, etc.)
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I did not at all mean disrespect to breaking bad. That show is definitely incredible and a great example of character development. I didn't mean to compare success or viewership, its just that breaking bad is a show that doesn't have a lot of reason to go back to it, but Twin Peaks is something that gets lodged in your brain and requires deep thought.
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I feel like if we're discussing Twin Peaks and the greater impact that it had on television as a whole, then we would be, quite frankly, remiss not to mention the show Lost, or I suppose I could just say  - that in and of itself makes a certain point.But really, I think that Lost did a good job in sort of... carrying the torch for genre television in what was ultimately a cleverly subversive way - Lost only succeeded in the way it did by pulling in tons of viewers with the heavily promoted pilot that sold it as something kinda different from what it really was. Hell, it took me months to start watching because I thought it was something stupid that was possibly another cheap Survivor knockoff - bear in mind that this was 2004, in the very midst of a landscape where the sitcom had died off, and yet networks had yet to by into serialized dramas at all. Reality TV and Procedurals basically ruled the roost, hand in hand - I believe there 3 different seasons of Survivor in 2004 as well as 3 different versions of Law and Order running concurrently at the time... At least. Anyway, I really don't know that serialized TV - especially anything that wandered into the realm of sci-fi or worse yet, "magical" supernatural happenings, risked alienating their viewers. It was like, strictly X-Files territory (another show influenced by TP in its own way that deserves credit really). Sure, the BSG remake had just premiered on the SYFY channel, but nobody was really taking that too seriously except the fanboys at the time. And I'd even argue that but for the revival in the interest of genre television that took place after Lost proved that you could be weird *and* successful at the same time on Network TV still. I don't think any show had really proven that point since Twin Peaks, and it showed in that the tenor of what dramatic shows got approved changed, and even the writing in many of the procedurals changed; by 2007 and 2008, shows like House were doing long, multi-episode arcs where chronology mattered; whereas, efforts to do the same thing in the first several seasons were FAR less pronounced, and less successful.
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Sorry if this has been covered, but I can't find the OG series Blurays locally and amazon seems to sell it, but it groups both into the same listing and all the comments are for both, am I right to assume the [Region free] cheaper one is the plastic case one and the slightly more expensive [Import] one is the nice one that's an actual box with disk folders and art cards?
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:Sorry if this has been covered, but I can't find the OG series Blurays locally and amazon seems to sell it, but it groups both into the same listing and all the comments are for both, am I right to assume the [Region free] cheaper one is the plastic case one and the slightly more expensive [Import] one is the nice one that's an actual box with disk folders and art cards? I don't think it's possible to get the nice packaging anymore. They're probably all the plastic case.
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