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It's a good thing that none of the Phantom Thieves remember being repeatedly beaten up by half-blind half pints. Except Joker, who will carry the shame forever. Get smoked, inmate. Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Jun 3, 2019 |
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He's got more than one shame. (spoilers for an optional piece of dialogue in Persona Q2) 
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Jun 3, 2019 19:23
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The twins’ JoJo posing game on point.
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Jun 3, 2019 19:28
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GhostStalker posted:The twins’ JoJo posing game on point. It’s such a good pose for them to use after an All-Out Attack. Also yeah if they can target weaknesses they absolutely will knock everyone down before the 5 turn thing and hit the party with the All-Out.
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Jun 4, 2019 02:35
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You know, the sheer amount of effort they put into what is really just taunting you is honestly kinda impressive. Also: imagining the look on Yaldabaoth's face while he watches them spend weeks choreographing and practicing that never fails to make me laugh. Stroth fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Jun 5, 2019 |
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Jun 5, 2019 07:58
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The Ohya skills are terrible. They really thought you would go to the palaces more than twice (Once to get to the boss and then to defeat him) ?
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Jun 5, 2019 13:33
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AstroWhale posted:The Ohya skills are terrible. They really thought you would go to the palaces more than twice (Once to get to the boss and then to defeat him) ? I believe they suffer from a redesign of how Palaces function, where in the past keeping a low profile was a lot more important than it ended up being in the final game.
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Jun 5, 2019 14:17
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Lord_Magmar posted:I believe they suffer from a redesign of how Palaces function, where in the past keeping a low profile was a lot more important than it ended up being in the final game. Here’s hoping that both they and Ohya herself get some major improvement in Royal, because as they are now, Ouya is the absolute worst Confidant in both technical and story perspectives.
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Jun 5, 2019 15:16
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Yeah, Ohya and a couple of other confidants suffer from the massive rewrites the game went through. Also the devs absolutely expects you take more than a single day to do palaces due to how their deadlines are set up, nevermind P4 showed that players really preferred to one shot dungeons when possible.
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Jun 5, 2019 15:24
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Stroth posted:You know, the sheer amount of effort they put into what is really just taunting you is honestly kinda impressive. The game is definitely at its best with moments like this.
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Jun 5, 2019 15:26
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To be fair having a whole new semester's worth of time to dick around might mean players feel less pressured to push through a palace in a single go. Another (maybe controversial?) change that I'd like to see is the complete removal of SP Patches. Not only do they help facilitate the "blitz a palace in one day" strategy, they make all other attachments irrelevant and also make other activities like making coffee, curry, or growing veggies with Haru essentially redundant.
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Jun 5, 2019 18:40
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Sydin posted:To be fair having a whole new semester's worth of time to dick around might mean players feel less pressured to push through a palace in a single go. Of you want to break up the Palaces more then don't just make the grind worse, do it organically and have more than, like, two points in the game where you hit an unopenable obstacle and need to social engineer a bypass in the real world.
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Jun 5, 2019 19:26
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I mean I don't think there's really that much of a functional difference between having to leave a palace 1/3 through because you're out of SP vs having to leave a palace 1/3 through because you've arbitrarily been forced to leave until you do busywork in the real world. And that still doesn't solve the problem that there's no point spending slots on making coffee, curry, or veggies because the main purpose of all of those is to give you what is supposed to be a rare opportunity to restore some SP mid-palace, but that all goes out the window when you get the cash to stick patches on everybody.
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Jun 5, 2019 21:51
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If you have enough money to buy 4 SP patches you either grinded your life away in mementos or exploited confusion so I'm not sure it's that big of a deal since you were going to min-max anyway.
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Jun 5, 2019 22:50
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I didn't really do either.
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Jun 5, 2019 22:53
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lunar detritus posted:If you have enough money to buy 4 SP patches you either grinded your life away in mementos or exploited confusion so I'm not sure it's that big of a deal since you were going to min-max anyway. Not really? My first playthrough (mostly blind, but I was looking at s-link responses) I got Takemi to level 5, I noticed the discount at level 7, I checked the unlocked items and put 1 and 1 together. I didn't even bother to grind, and I still had money for two patches when I got the discount. Even just two patches is such a massive increase to longevity it's ridiculous, and the other two are not far behind. Until endgame, the patches are way too stupidly good, and SP costs are clearly balanced around the regen, meaning that not having them equipped is such a massive detriment that other accessories can't really compete. In past games you could turn the protagonist into the Energizer bunny (and I'm not referring to Victory Cry here), but: a) the Wild Card is meant to be horribly broken if you take the time to engage with the fusion system. b) the two passive slots needed to carry the highest SP Regen and Cool Breeze are a noticeable opportunity cost and fusion constraint, and you also need to finish the battle with it equipped for Cool Breeze to kick in. EDIT: by contrast, the patches are buy, equip, forget, and they're clearly the best bang for the party's bucks.
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Jun 5, 2019 23:22
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honestly by kaneshiro/futaba's palace most players have the resources to have at least a couple SP patches which is usually enough I put one on MC, one on morgana and didn't really bother buying a third one until like, the boat because I never really even needed a third one
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Jun 5, 2019 23:30
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I remember earlier in this thread a discussion what would be some things you'd want in a future Persona game. I think having supportive parents would be nice.
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Jun 5, 2019 23:48
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Miz Kriss posted:I remember earlier in this thread a discussion what would be some things you'd want in a future Persona game. I think having supportive parents would be nice. Yes, but what do you want in a future Persona game?
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Jun 6, 2019 00:03
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The secret to becoming the Wildcard is to have deadbeat parents.
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Jun 6, 2019 00:14
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You can hardly blame The Fool for leaning a little too much in The Hero's Journey.
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Jun 6, 2019 00:16
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YaketySass posted:You can hardly blame The Fool from leaning a little too much in The Hero's Journey. Honestly? The Fool's Journey could be seen as an interpretation of the Hero's Journey.
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Jun 6, 2019 00:22
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Funky Valentine posted:The secret to becoming the Wildcard is to have deadbeat parents. Are Yu's parents bad?
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Jun 6, 2019 03:07
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There's some implications that his parents have been moving around Japan, foisting him onto his relatives for most of his life.
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Jun 6, 2019 03:17
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Funky Valentine posted:The secret to becoming the Wildcard is to have deadbeat parents.
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Jun 6, 2019 03:38
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Can we assume that he communicates with his parents offscreen at all? Because as far as I can tell they shove him off with a realive he hasn't seen since he was a baby, and also there's a serial killer and the never, like, check on him. Also they aren't sending him an allowance or anything because I remember how many goddamn envelopes I was folding. Furthermore there is not a single mention of anyone else he knew before Inaba, so either
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Jun 6, 2019 03:46
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YggiDee posted:
Well, given Arena and the Golden epilogue, item 3 can't be true.
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Jun 6, 2019 03:50
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I only played the original Persona 4.
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Jun 6, 2019 03:55
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YggiDee posted:Can we assume that he communicates with his parents offscreen at all? Because as far as I can tell they shove him off with a realive he hasn't seen since he was a baby, and also there's a serial killer and the never, like, check on him. Also they aren't sending him an allowance or anything because I remember how many goddamn envelopes I was folding. Furthermore there is not a single mention of anyone else he knew before Inaba, so either
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PMush Perfect posted:At least in P3 they have a pretty good excuse. Yeah if my kid was a stone-cold sociopath I'd fake my death in a car accident to get away from them too.
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Funky Valentine posted:Yeah if my kid was a stone-cold sociopath I'd fake my death in a car accident to get away from them too. Fun fact: Minato and Yu are actually brothers. Their parents weren't taking the chance on getting attached to another kid after how the first one turned out.
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YggiDee posted:Can we assume that he communicates with his parents offscreen at all? Because as far as I can tell they shove him off with a realive he hasn't seen since he was a baby, and also there's a serial killer and the never, like, check on him. Also they aren't sending him an allowance or anything because I remember how many goddamn envelopes I was folding. Furthermore there is not a single mention of anyone else he knew before Inaba, so either Number 2 seems to be canon given the the Golden anime has his shadow flat out say Yu’s greatest fear is being alone again. Funky Valentine posted:Yeah if my kid was a stone-cold sociopath I'd fake my death in a car accident to get away from them too. Hey. FemC at least has a personality beyond being edgy and apathetic. She’s only broken on the inside, like all SEES members. Geostomp fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Jun 6, 2019 |
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Jun 6, 2019 11:50
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Ohya's skills are useful when you just want to get through a room without a fight as high suspicion can instantly aggro any shadow in a room when step into it. They are still the least useful. In other news the new character's Persona has been confirmed as Cendrillon, the french name for Cinderella.
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Jun 6, 2019 15:07
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Ugh, that's boring. Though I suppose La Maupin was too much to ask for.
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Jun 6, 2019 15:56
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Robindaybird posted:Ugh, that's boring. Though I suppose La Maupin was too much to ask for. There's always the awakened version... 
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Jun 6, 2019 16:40
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TheKirbs posted:Ohya's skills are useful when you just want to get through a room without a fight as high suspicion can instantly aggro any shadow in a room when step into it. They are still the least useful. That's, uh, really stretching the definition of picaresque.  I wish they'd have gotten Cyrano in there somewhere.
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Jun 6, 2019 16:40
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I mean, I understand what they're going for, but I still think slapping the mythological thief label onto the Cinderella archetype feels really awkward. Hopefully they have something more fitting for her awakened persona.
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Jun 6, 2019 16:45
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Not gonna do an update for it because I have no way of capturing from it, but I'm liking PQ2 so far. P3 FeMC is the best.
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Jun 6, 2019 16:55
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Also I can't be too upset because Cendrillon is a great name to shout when you summon your Persona.
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Also, based on what we've learnt about the character her arc is going to be built around wish fulfillment, and I'm pretty sure Cinderalla is literally one of the earliest wish fulfillment narratives.
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