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Cardiac posted:KD went forward despite the massive smearing campaign. lmao get real edit: Nobody forced Adaktusson to go on fundamentalist meetings in Latin America, nobody forced him to tow the party line and not condemn Paraguay for not letting their citizens get an abortion after incestuos child rape. "Sweden is a bit extreme" he says as he quotes Johan Ingerö - a literal Timbro mouthpiece who also happens to be be militantly pro-insurance type healthcare as well as chief of policy for EBT. Retarded Goatee fucked around with this message at 08:01 on May 27, 2019 |
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so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
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I wonder what will happen to KD over the next few months. If their unwarranted surge is anything like that of MP and C previous they simply won't recover from this and will just keep falling.Cardiac posted:So what is the point of V then? That is the question, but I'd be surprised if this outcome won't result in a lot of reconsideration about the overall strategy. On paper both this and the last election were successes, but in practice they've far undershot expectations. Cardiac posted:My main wish for this election didn't come through. So close though. 
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In Denmark, the conventional/traditionalist racists in DPP went back by a lot, I’m assuming that the main cause is brexit, but Pia blamed the ‘climate nut-jobs’ for making it impossible to incite hatred towards immigrants as much as she used to, also impossible to be heard while trying make immigrants the cause of everything bad and make every single policy aspect of society immigration focused. I feel like the hypocrisy of politicians has always been bad, and has become completely standard these days, but this one is close to taking the cake. The DPPs outright lies and bad faith on immigration has been the single dominating theme in all elections for like 20-30 years in Denmark. I’m a little afraid that DPPS catastrophic election will lead to a backlash in the actual election in a short while. Enhedslisten got the single mandate for left wing criticism but the people’s movement against EU lost theirs, something I feel indifferent about. Overall eu criticism when back, but only because the ethno-nationalist racists lost, so I don’t think that’s bad.
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May 27, 2019 08:57
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Enhedslisten got the single mandate for left wing criticism but the people’s movement against EU lost theirs, something I feel indifferent about. Overall eu criticism when back, but only because the ethno-nationalist racists lost, so I don’t think that’s bad. I'm annoyed that The People's Movement Against The EU lost a seat. It's good that Enhedslisten got a seat, but I think their approach is too accepting of current EU methods, compared to the very EU-critical line the Movement had/has.
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May 27, 2019 09:27
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Clayton Bigsby posted:And this happened https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/blekinge/efter-gruppsexbilden-peter-thyren-sd-avgar-som-namndsordforande
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Boatswain posted:https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/blekinge/efter-gruppsexbilden-peter-thyren-sd-avgar-som-namndsordforande It seemed like such a good idea at the time...
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Revelation 2-13 posted:In Denmark, the conventional/traditionalist racists in DPP went back by a lot, I’m assuming that the main cause is brexit, but Pia blamed the ‘climate nut-jobs’ for making it impossible to incite hatred towards immigrants as much as she used to, also impossible to be heard while trying make immigrants the cause of everything bad and make every single policy aspect of society immigration focused. I feel like the hypocrisy of politicians has always been bad, and has become completely standard these days, but this one is close to taking the cake. The DPPs outright lies and bad faith on immigration has been the single dominating theme in all elections for like 20-30 years in Denmark. I’m a little afraid that DPPS catastrophic election will lead to a backlash in the actual election in a short while.
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May 27, 2019 21:08
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i mean i prefer ecofascism to petrofascism, but it's still loving fascism
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Cardiac posted:Also the whole abortion issue is just stupid and just a way of means to smear KD by pretending US politics is a thing in Sweden. Is this really likely to happen? It seems like for all of these issues like abortion or the social pillar etc. it's about setting up some bare minimums for countries to follow. Just because EU agrees on a minimum number of weeks paid vacation doesn't mean they'll go and restrict countries that have more generous laws. Seemed to me during the debates that "EU shouldn't regulate this" generally meant "We don't like this"
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Cakebaker posted:Is this really likely to happen? It seems like for all of these issues like abortion or the social pillar etc. it's about setting up some bare minimums for countries to follow. Just because EU agrees on a minimum number of weeks paid vacation doesn't mean they'll go and restrict countries that have more generous laws. Seemed to me during the debates that "EU shouldn't regulate this" generally meant "We don't like this" when the eu gets its mitts on legislation it very often harmonises it across the continent by default, because local legislation is often going to conflict with some weird downstream tehnicality this is happening in norway, with norwegian supreme court being overruled in matters of employment law (the EU likes maximum mobility of manpower, so norwegian employers hiring in lower-cost countries do not need to pay for their workers' travel and board until they get established, thanks EU) on a rule nobody really thought would be applied this way the EU, like any bureaucratic system, will expand to fill the room granted to it. allowing it into a hot issue like abortion seems like an excellent way of letting a bunch of polish fundamentalists get at your abortion legislation
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Caveat, the election isn’t completely done in DK I don’t think. Much to my surprise the actual, no joke, nazi policy party didn’t get in, but were incredibly close (got like 1.9% needed 2). I don’t know, I did actually think there were more than 2% goose stepping, sieg heiling, nazis in Denmark, but I guess they split their votes across the two ultra right parties. The party combining the worst qualities the alt right with ultra unfettered capitalism, and who I naively thought would be the racist bottom, did get in though. The good news is that danish people’s party got massacred and the literal ayn rand comedy hour party got cut in half, with their main guy possibility losing his seat. Looks like red government, but let my the social democrats, who took a long hard look at themselves and said: ‘we just have to come more racist’. Does seem like it was a winning strategy since they stayed the same size more or less, who knows, maybe they’d gone back if they hadn’t turned into danish people’s party, but also pretends they think the climate is important.
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I took a great deal of joy in watching DF get their poo poo kicked in at the polls for the second time in less than two weeks. The socialdemocrats are claiming they'll attempt a government purely out of their own party and be open for cooperating with both the red of the red bloc as well as the Right. Probably so they can get the right to help them poo poo on immigrants and then hope the left will back them up still when they get to government spending. Fingers crossed it will backfire horribly on them as a cautionary tale not to be poo poo like that in the future. LLR's callingfor the socialdemocrats to form a centrist government with him remaining prime minister is also hilariously deluded.
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Slashrat posted:The socialdemocrats are claiming they'll attempt a government purely out of their own party and be open for cooperating with both the red of the red bloc as well as the Right. governing as a minority government with 26% of the vote seems incredibly ambitious
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I refuse to be optimistic about anything relating to this election result. We're way past the point where Denmark's shittyness relied on one specific far-right nationalist party pulling things there.
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Slashrat posted:
Seems as if it's a rather desperate ploy. But maybe 5th dimensional chess. "LLR or chaos". I think that the black tower is going to be a shitshow. But as long as both SF and EL are "free" agents, I think RV are going to be limited.
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TheIllestVillain posted:governing as a minority government with 26% of the vote seems incredibly ambitious
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TheIllestVillain posted:governing as a minority government with 26% of the vote seems incredibly ambitious S are afraid of polluting the brand by inviting R inside. Corydon and Vestager really hurt them the last time.
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TheIllestVillain posted:governing as a minority government with 26% of the vote seems incredibly ambitious What matters is the support of Parliament. biggest mistake S made in Sweden was to share the ministry with the Green Party.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:What matters is the support of Parliament. MP would have never entered the coalition if it cost them their government seat. They already endured a blood-bath on every political level from political aid falling along with their support. Paid government positions is the only thing keeping their rickety group together.
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vuk83 posted:S are afraid of polluting the brand by inviting R inside. Corydon wasn't R, but S.
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Corydon wasnt elected he was appointed I think.
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Buller posted:Corydon wasnt elected he was appointed I think. Corydon was elected as a member of parliament in 2011 and 2015. And all Danish ministers are appointed.
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Buller posted:Corydon wasnt elected he was appointed I think. You're probably thinking of Neergaard, who was Director for the Confederation of Danish Employers and was appointed Minister of Employment without anyone addressing conflicts of interest.
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Far-right: Refugees and immigrants are a threat to societal cohesion and are draining state coffers! Also far-right: https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/politiet-har-brugt-over-100-millioner-paa-beskytte-paludan-i-aar
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SplitSoul posted:Far-right: Refugees and immigrants are a threat to societal cohesion and are draining state coffers!
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Radical Left Referring to them like that misrepresents their politics. Their official party name in English is the Danish Social Liberal Party, which encapsulates their leftish social politics and rightish economic politics. In other words, enlightened centrists with a big of anti-racism sprinkled on top.
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KozmoNaut posted:Referring to them like that misrepresents their politics. Their official party name in English is the Danish Social Liberal Party, which encapsulates their leftish social politics and rightish economic politics.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:A whole lot of whining about Muslims voting for the Radical Left too. Extremely problematic that people let religion influence their vote. If they were properly integrated they'd vote for the Danish People Party. It's a problem when they reject democracy and it's a problem when they vote. But if the left wanted the immigrant vote they should probably take care to field more (any) non-white candidates and not backstab those among them who speak out against racism. I guess that's a tall order. The Social Liberals managed to obfuscate the fact that they voted for more deportations. After that it was only a matter of pretending at representation.
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SplitSoul posted:But if the left wanted the immigrant vote they should probably take care to field more (any) non-white candidates and not backstab those among them who speak out against racism. I guess that's a tall order.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:It's kinda crazy, even if you look at it solely from an electoral perspective. Like, how many people are gonna NOT vote for the left if they suddenly field non-white candidates vs. how many voters might they attract by taking a principled anti-racism stance? Looking at polls from around the election, voter conversion numbers between 2015 and 2019 see them lose more far more votes to the Social Liberals and the Alternative than they do the DPP. Even ignoring the morality of it, what kinda of vote are you even trying to get? The literal national socialist vote? The Stalinist one? Apparently they did have like four candidates, but none of them had a chance of getting in. I really don't know what they're trying for. Neither do they, I'm afraid. Look at the last-minute appeal to small business owners and self-employed.
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https://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=105&artikel=7240199quote:Bromölla inför ett förbud att be på arbetstid för de som arbetar i kommunen. Det rapporterar Kristianstadbladet. is this loving garbage even constitutional
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TheFluff posted:https://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=105&artikel=7240199 I'm pretty sure religious discrimination is not, no. And this is so obviously ment to target practicing Muslims and only Muslims.
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Besides you're allowed a certain amount of breaks during work depending on your collective agreement, and your employer has no say in what you do on your breaks.
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Collateral Damage posted:Besides you're allowed a certain amount of breaks during work depending on your collective agreement, and your employer has no say in what you do on your breaks.
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TheFluff posted:https://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=105&artikel=7240199 I have this weird feeling that the amount of work hour lost due to prayer breaks are something akin to the amount of ISIS returnees in Sölvesborg.
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I strongly suspect more work hours are lost due to Angry Birds, cigarettes, sexual congress in the office and pretty much everything else than prayer breaks.
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Katt posted:Aren't you entitled to 5 minutes of "pause" per hour of work? Not specifically, but kind of. The part in the law that's specific is a longe break that must be available within five hours of the start of your work day. Basically a lunch break or similar, which means that you can't force someone to work non-stop for eight hours. The part about short breaks are a bit more vague. However, that's before taking into account what's written in your kollektivavtal, which in Sweden is where a lot of your actual work enviroment rules are covered. You can't decide what people do on their breaks. This will never be implemented, it's just empty sabre-rattling to satisfy racist voters. It's from the SD heartland, and clear signal politics. It's not even meant to be implemented, just a way to shout "vote for SD if you hate muslims". From Unionen: "Enligt arbetstidslagen ska en arbetstagare ha en rast senast efter 5 timmars arbete. Själva lagen säger ingenting om hur lång rasten ska vara, men enligt arbetsmiljöverkets riktlinjer ska rastens längd vara minst 30 minuter. Unionen anser att rasten bör vara omkring 60 minuter. Rast innebär att du inte står till arbetsgivarens förfogande, det vill säga du har rätt att lämna arbetsstället, stänga av telefonen och inte behöva vara tillgänglig. Rasten räknas inte in i arbetstiden. Utöver rasterna har du rätt till kortare avbrott från arbetet det vill säga pauser. Då har du inte automatiskt rätt att lämna arbetsplatsen. Pauser räknas in i arbetstiden. Längden på och omfattningen av pauserna är inte reglerat i lagen mer än skyldigheten för arbetsgivaren att organisera arbetet, så att arbetstagaren kan ta de pauser som behövs utöver rasterna." lilljonas fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Jun 12, 2019 |
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It owns especially because during the church elections, SD has a tendency to "accidentally" say they want to bring back morning prayers and other Christian stuff in schools 
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