|
Are you sure that's Nightlord-on-Nightlord violence and not Nightlord-on-other-Chaos-Legion violence? Its been awhile, but I don't recall any large-scale Night Lord in-fighting.
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2019 19:14
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 20, 2024 10:05 |
|
|
Randalor posted:Are you sure that's Nightlord-on-Nightlord violence and not Nightlord-on-other-Chaos-Legion violence? Its been awhile, but I don't recall any large-scale Night Lord in-fighting. First Claw just murdered...uh.... second? third? Claw because Uzas(?) murdered one of their own and they came for vengeance and now Septimus is upset because that's two months of repair work, these morons
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2019 19:15
|
|
|
StrixNebulosa posted:Nightlords 2: are they serious They are incredibly proud morons, yes.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2019 19:15
|
|
|
StrixNebulosa posted:First Claw just murdered...uh.... second? third? Claw because Uzas(?) murdered one of their own and they came for vengeance The solidarity behind Uzas is really great, even though he's Uzas. Uzas is great.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2019 20:11
|
|
|
Schadenboner posted:Isn't this literally how most of the first dozen Black Crusades worked out? It's what the Imperials thought had happened.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2019 20:24
|
|
|
It's what most customers thought happened but GW gonna GW
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2019 20:39
|
|
|
Meanwhile - as Titanicus arrived and it's a paperback so I can read it on the go, as compared to the chonky omnibuses - I love Dan Abnett? Less than five pages dedicated to a scene that's making me emotional: the husband comes home from work, finds the draft slip on the table. It's for his wife. He's upset, and she has to spend the final hours with him performing the emotional labor of calming him down when all she wants is a hug and to be told it will be alright. Such a small change and a stereotypical scene is given new weight for me and it's so well written. With the added torture of knowing that it's Warhammer and she's so totally dead.
|
|
#
?
Jun 4, 2019 22:08
|
|
|
StrixNebulosa posted:Meanwhile - as Titanicus arrived and it's a paperback so I can read it on the go, as compared to the chonky omnibuses - I love Dan Abnett? Less than five pages dedicated to a scene that's making me emotional: the husband comes home from work, finds the draft slip on the table. It's for his wife. He's upset, and she has to spend the final hours with him performing the emotional labor of calming him down when all she wants is a hug and to be told it will be alright. You're in for a ride.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 11:29
|
|
|
It's a hell of a book.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 12:11
|
|
|
StrixNebulosa posted:First Claw just murdered...uh.... second? third? Claw because Uzas(?) murdered one of their own and they came for vengeance The flash back bits with Uzas before he deteriorated and was a squad Sargeant who malcharion seemed to be grooming always get me. Seems like he only went full khorne after all his men died during the siege of Terra.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 13:05
|
|
|
Zasze posted:The flash back bits with Uzas before he deteriorated and was a squad Sargeant who malcharion seemed to be grooming always get me. Uzas' whole speech to Talos before he lapsed into having trouble speaking actually made me a bit emotional, because drat. He's right, too, about Talos - I like Talos and I agree that the Night Lords have fallen (at least this ship has) but being snooty about it won't fix anything. Arquinsiel posted:It's a hell of a book. So far I am so, so impressed by the quality of this Warhammer fanfiction, like dang if it isn't better than most military sci-fi.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 13:10
|
|
|
StrixNebulosa posted:
The advantage of this thread is that you can avoid the stuff that... isn't.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 13:13
|
|
|
tarbrush posted:The advantage of this thread is that you can avoid the stuff that... isn't. Not gonna lie, this thread has one of the best OPs I've seen on SA. Informative, concise, and full of good places to start before I hare off into the wilds of googling random 40k books to see if they're worth it. e: The real problem here is that I can only read so quickly and I'm still reading Ro3K and some urban fantasy series so I can't get through everything as fast as I want to. StrixNebulosa fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Jun 5, 2019 |
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 13:18
|
|
|
boredsatellite posted:I mean gently caress seeing as how 40k takes inspiration off history do a Dien Bien Phu like battle with the Iron Warriors whittling down the defenders through prolonged siege Shutupandtakemymoney, etc. Yeah, I'd love to see Iron Warriors written like that.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 15:07
|
|
|
Demon Of The Fall posted:The Night Lords monologue too much. If they didn’t have plot armor they’d be dead from a bullet to the back while they were running their mouth after every kill. That's the best part. The trilogy is completely self-aware about the campy aspect of the Legion and carries itself like a B-rated action flick.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 16:27
|
|
|
Lead Psychiatry posted:They all pretty much play off the tired themes of horror. The one you chose probably the strongest since unlike the other two, the theme isn't played up as frequently in WH40K, I don't think. I found that from a horror perspective the first one is greatly improved if you ignore the framing story, useless though it was (it's literally only there because old Hammer Horror style portmanteau horror movies had them, but novella collections don't need a framing device the way old-timey movies do), and you assume that the protagonist just continues on in his career as a commissar. The idea that a non-negligible proportion of the commissars out there are like that dude is delicious fun.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 16:50
|
|
|
mdemone posted:That's the best part. The trilogy is completely self-aware about the campy aspect of the Legion and carries itself like a B-rated action flick. "Blood Reaver? That's a ridiculous name." "Says the Soul Hunter" "Shut up" 
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 17:05
|
|
|
  (not pictured: Helsreach, it's back in my bedroom. also don't judge me re: nalini singh she's my favorite romance writer, so ridiculous and fluffy)
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 18:57
|
|
|
That's a good haul of mostly bad books (in a good way), except Titanicus I guess. I haven't read Forge of Mars but McNeil does a good job with AdMech. The Grey Knight books are pretty awful but have some decent moments. I think they are with Alaric? I remember him fighting a huge plague demon as big as a hive city and then something about him getting kidnapped and fighting as a slave in an arena?
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 19:29
|
|
|
Demon Of The Fall posted:That's a good haul of mostly bad books (in a good way), except Titanicus I guess. I haven't read Forge of Mars but McNeil does a good job with AdMech. The Grey Knight books are pretty awful but have some decent moments. I think they are with Alaric? I remember him fighting a huge plague demon as big as a hive city and then something about him getting kidnapped and fighting as a slave in an arena? I've seen Forge of Mars described as one of the craziest 40k books and I must see it with my own eyes. Also the concept of every branch of the Imperium getting together for a quest is great and I'm down with it. I... can't decide if I'll read it or Ultramarines first, because I'm also excited for some bog-standard bolter-porn. The first short story in the Ultramarines omnibus is painfully juvenile, and it looks like it's one of McNeill's first writing attempts ever and that makes it adorable instead of cringey. His enthusiasm in the foreward was great too, I love it when authors are obviously having fun with their works! Also, uh, I don't know why you think I got the Grey Knight books, 'cause I didn't. I've heard bad things about Counter and don't intend to buy his stuff until I'm desperate.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 19:40
|
|
|
Oh, whoops. I got them confused with the Grey Knight series with that one book with Dark in the title. Dark Adeptus I think. Now I remember those Word Bearers ones.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 19:52
|
|
|
Demon Of The Fall posted:Oh, whoops. I got them confused with the Grey Knight series with that one book with Dark in the title. Dark Adeptus I think. Now I remember those Word Bearers ones. As I understand it I need to not read the Word Bearers directly after the Night Lords omnibus because they'll suck in comparison...but other than that, they're perfectly fine evil-pov books that'll be fun to read when I'm in a gnarly mood.
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 20:10
|
|
|
I'm imaging your book shelf with trashy romance novels and 40k and if I saw it for the first time I'd be like 
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 20:16
|
|
|
The ...of Mars trilogy gets increasingly gonzo and is pure Mechanicus through and through. When the Ark Mechanicus kicks off at the end is 
|
|
#
?
Jun 5, 2019 21:16
|
|
|
Foxtrot_13 posted:The ...of Mars trilogy gets increasingly gonzo and is pure Mechanicus through and through. When the Ark Mechanicus kicks off at the end is
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2019 00:22
|
|
|
The only 40k book I regret buying is the Salamanders omnibus God. The only book I never reread
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2019 00:34
|
|
|
So I finished the first Sisters of Battle novel today. It's surprising not bad, considering I've heard exactly nothing about it before now. A good balance of bolter porn and Inquisitor-style investigating, and its one of the few "modern" novels where the plot actually looks at the downside of zealotry in the church and how the Emperor just has a bunch of side-projects sitting around collecting dust until some dumbshit figures out how to turn it on
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2019 01:09
|
|
|
boredsatellite posted:God. The only book I never reread The last 40k book I'd probably ever reread would be Ben Counter's Daemon World. The concept is sound but all I can remember of it was that the ending came out of nowhere and was a massive flub at the same time.
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2019 14:24
|
|
|
Bought and read the Sisters Omnibus a good while ago, can't say I was a big fan (despite being a fan of the Sisters.) I did kinda dig the short story that was featured though, it had an interesting twist. I've been on a bit of a 40k binge lately. Reread Know no Fear and currently reading Scars for the second time. Probably gonna check out Path of Heaven when I'm done with it. I also checked out the Dark Imperium books and the Solar War and with all of them I started somewhat interested but ultimately just skipped past most of the books to end. It didn't help that I've spoiled myself to most of what happens in them but I still just didn't care much for the writing or the characters for the most part...
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2019 15:05
|
|
|
Foxtrot_13 posted:The ...of Mars trilogy gets increasingly gonzo and is pure Mechanicus through and through. When the Ark Mechanicus kicks off at the end is Are any of the loose ends in that series picked up somewhere else? tiger tiger
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2019 15:54
|
|
|
Cooked Auto posted:The last 40k book I'd probably ever reread would be Ben Counter's Daemon World. The concept is sound but all I can remember of it was that the ending came out of nowhere and was a massive flub at the same time. Was that the one where the grey knight talks an abominable intelligence into converting to chaos, so that it becomes a daemon he can stab?
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2019 16:11
|
|
|
I am fascinated by the dynamics of the Ultramarines. They're a group of soldiers / brothers / priests and they're ridiculously, fanatically religious and they're freaking me out a bit and it's weird because I'm finding the Night Lords more relatable. Sure they're awful killers who wear skulls, but they're people I can understand, not these turbo religious boyscouts.
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2019 20:15
|
|
|
StrixNebulosa posted:I am fascinated by the dynamics of the Ultramarines. They're a group of soldiers / brothers / priests and they're ridiculously, fanatically religious and they're freaking me out a bit 
|
|
#
?
Jun 6, 2019 22:42
|
|
|
What I expected from a book about Ultramarines: violence, death to xenos, military sci-fi with a helping of horror What I'm getting: labor disputes, corrupt politicians, peaceful demonstrations, the Ultramarines standing around looking pretty while the real hero Barzano saves the day
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2019 14:22
|
|
|
Cooked Auto posted:The last 40k book I'd probably ever reread would be Ben Counter's Daemon World. The concept is sound but all I can remember of it was that the ending came out of nowhere and was a massive flub at the same time. Are you kidding me the entire planet breaks apart and we get to see it from the perspective of Mr. Brutal McKhorne tribal warlord who's simultaneously a huuuuuge dick whose death you cheer on and also like the most relatable and interesting character in the entire plot. It's fantastic for the atmospheric storytelling and world building. Daemon worlds are super cool and Counter does it justice. E: wait I should spoiler that
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2019 14:27
|
|
Cat Army 
|
It never really clicked for me when I first read it and since then it's always been way down on my list of BL books I've wanted to reread again. v v
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2019 14:53
|
|
|
Cooked Auto posted:It never really clicked for me when I first read it and since then it's always been way down on my list of BL books I've wanted to reread again. v There's only a couple of Ben Counter's novels i'd read again, his first grey knights one is pretty good.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2019 15:08
|
|
|
Biplane posted:Are any of the loose ends in that series picked up somewhere else? tiger tiger Unfortunately no. There are a few things that didn't make the transition to 'Modern' 40k (post Guilliman return), and that's one of them. Not to say they won't at some point, but I don't think McNeil is working with the Black Library at the moment.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2019 16:23
|
|
|
He might be back soon if the stories coming out of RIOT are anything to go by.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2019 16:30
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 20, 2024 10:05 |
|
|
Varied as his output is, it's a shame he isn't one of the Siege of Terra authors.
|
|
#
?
Jun 7, 2019 16:40
|
|