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Vitamin P posted:and its hosed because theres no answer besides exposing and killing the rich but apparently thats not allowed Generally agreed, but I mean they tried getting rid of the monarchy and aristocracy in Britain once already, and all it did was replace the King with a Lord-Protector, tear the country apart in a bitter civil war, and displace thousands of refugees to America, who then perpetrated a genocide, sooo.... (I don't have a solution to offer here) DISCLAIMER: THIS POST DOES NOT PROVIDE MEDICAL ADVICE twoday has issued a correction as of 22:54 on Jun 6, 2019 |
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twoday posted:Oh I thought I scared you off, nevermind Never! Just sometimes there are good posts and I have not much to say on the subject and the good posts be without me posting poo poo This of course never happens in cpsam
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They tried that already!  It didn’t work because it turned out that everyone else was also an rear end in a top hat
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twoday posted:They tried that already! Like killing a hydra, the trick is to : thermidor: all the rich, because if you leave one it can regenerate the whole mess.
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Vitamin P posted:This is a big problem, working class Brits didn't benefit from imperialism. The industrial revolution legit did broadly make britons rich but the empire was a monopolised endeavour, economically it overwhelmingly only benefited the wealthy. actual lol
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Grape posted:Hell yeah bruv, stand shoulder to shoulder with the empire apologist. i think he was just chuckling at tactical mandolin training there's no need to put "Grape will remember this" at the top left of the screen
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Yeah I think we gotta take the laffin on the chin it's free for one person, technically
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twoday posted:Generally agreed, but I mean they tried getting rid of the monarchy and aristocracy in Britain once already, and all it did was replace the King with a Lord-Protector, tear the country apart in a bitter civil war, and displace thousands of refugees to America, who then perpetrated a genocide, sooo.... You are under some bizarre impressions about what motivated early American colonies. Like Virginia, lol, and yeah Puritans did set up New England but they were doing that before the civil wars even got going. By the time of the restoration you had multiple Puritan born colonies chugging along. Enough that some of the regicides could flee there to established places to hide out.
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mycomancy posted:Like killing a hydra, the trick is to : thermidor: all the rich, because if you leave one it can regenerate the whole mess. it started well but this time we need to finish the job
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And we didn't have like 4-5 different Puritan colonies because tons were fleeing over here. We had so many because you kept having some dude going "YOU AND YOUR FLOCK, PROCTER WETHERSPOON.... ARE NOT HARDCORE ENOUGH FOR ME. I SHALL TAKE MY FOLLOWERS AND MAKE A WAY MORE HARDCORE COLONY OVER THE NEXT VALLEY." It was kind of like Metal subgenres in the 80's.
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I just watched the first 2 episodes of Years and Years on the BBC iPlayer and drat if it isn't the scariest loving thing since that Chernobyl show. It's a really intimate story of one family trying to cope with the insanity of the rise of populism in modern-day Britain. It's a bit heavy-handed at times with its rhetoric, but it's seriously one of the best shows portraying life in current and future Britain. It's basically a really good Black Mirror episode if everything that could go wrong with our current system of government did go wrong.
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Grape posted:You are under some bizarre impressions about what motivated early American colonies. i mean yeah but cromwell then personally genocided the irish, and if ellen wood is to be believed invented capitalism while he was at it
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It's coming home lads. HOME TO THE NETHERLANDS THAT IS!! *Holds up hand for a high five.* Fake edit - oh dear, this is not the dutch thread.
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twoday posted:They tried that already! Meh. Imagine you had given up after the first try at not making GBS threads your pants
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An insane mind posted:It's coming home lads. Eurovision?
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StashAugustine posted:i mean yeah but cromwell then personally genocided the irish, and if ellen wood is to be believed invented capitalism while he was at it Catholic Irish didn't start mass immigrating to the US until the famine, which I suppose in a very long term sense has to do with Cromwell. But Irish immigrants weren't genociding natives in the ghettos of 1865 New York and Boston.
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Look im very much into irish struggles aginst imperialism but you might wanna Google the new York draft riots
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And while the irish weren't fleeing the country en masse cromwell did conquer the place
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StashAugustine posted:Look im very much into irish struggles aginst imperialism but you might wanna Google the new York draft riots Don't recall saying the community didn't get involved in bad things! also lol no poo poo to the second post
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I'm sorry I'm tired and dont know what I'm arguing about anymore What does brexit mean again?
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silvergoose posted:Eurovision? That too. It's all thanks to Brexit.
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Grape posted:You are under some bizarre impressions about what motivated early American colonies. Hakluyt & Co. planned the colonies long before, and much later contributions such as the peopling of the Carolinas with indentured servants underneath the guidance and John Locke and his buddies in the CABAL ministry certainly contributed to the peopling of the English colonies, and it is true that during the English Civil War there was actually a net emigration from New England by the Puritans. However, there were certainly refugees to New England as a result of the Civil War, and they brought with them both a militaristic mindset and military experience. Cromwell's decision to enact the Navigation Acts and thus preclude the first Anglo-Dutch was perhaps a logical outgrowth of the conflict in Britain, but it opened up a Pandora's box of decades international conflicts. The end of the Civil War and the re-installation of the monarchy under Charles II, who then immediately escalated tensions with the Dutch in the second Anglo-Dutch War, and later on in the third such war, contributed tremendously to the militarization of northwestern Europe and instated a new norm of warfare and conquest that radicalized and militarized society as a whole. All the while (disregarding the temporary reduction of Puritan immigration in the 1640's) immigration to New England grew continuously throughout the 17th century, and each passing year brought with it a populace that was more battle-hardened and belligerent. Though relations with the Native Americans were never great, the proper genocide in New England did not begin until King Philip's War in 1675, which was triggered in part by a great wave of tribal warfare that occurred because of the power vacuum that was left when the Dutch gave up control of New Netherland the previous year as a result of the delayed implementation of the Treaty of Westminster. Though there are arguments about why this war was so particularly vicious and most of them blame the Narragansett, I maintain that the campaign of extermination would not have been as extreme if not for the intense militarization of English society over the previous 30 years, fueled in part by the Anglo-Dutch wars, but those in turn having their roots in the English Civil War.
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An insane mind posted:It's coming home lads. it is now lol
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twoday posted:Hakluyt & Co. planned the colonies long before, and much later contributions such as the peopling of the Carolinas with indentured servants underneath the guidance and John Locke and his buddies in the CABAL ministry certainly contributed to the peopling of the English colonies, and it is true that during the English Civil War there was actually a net emigration from New England by the Puritans. However, there were certainly refugees to New England as a result of the Civil War, and they brought with them both a militaristic mindset and military experience. Cromwell's decision to enact the Navigation Acts and thus preclude the first Anglo-Dutch was perhaps a logical outgrowth of the conflict in Britain, but it opened up a Pandora's box of decades international conflicts. The end of the Civil War and the re-installation of the monarchy under Charles II, who then immediately escalated tensions with the Dutch in the second Anglo-Dutch War, and later on in the third such war, contributed tremendously to the militarization of northwestern Europe and instated a new norm of warfare and conquest that radicalized and militarized society as a whole. All the while (disregarding the temporary reduction of Puritan immigration in the 1640's) immigration to New England grew continuously throughout the 17th century, and each passing year brought with it a populace that was more battle-hardened and belligerent. Though relations with the Native Americans were never great, the proper genocide in New England did not begin until King Philip's War in 1675, which was triggered in part by a great wave of tribal warfare that occurred because of the power vacuum that was left when the Dutch gave up control of New Netherland the previous year as a result of the delayed implementation of the Treaty of Westminster. Though there are arguments about why this war was so particularly vicious and most of them blame the Narragansett, I maintain that the campaign of extermination would not have been as extreme if not for the intense militarization of English society over the previous 30 years, fueled in part by the Anglo-Dutch wars, but those in turn having their roots in the English Civil War. 
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Grape posted:And we didn't have like 4-5 different Puritan colonies because tons were fleeing over here. We had so many because you kept having some dude going "YOU AND YOUR FLOCK, PROCTER WETHERSPOON.... ARE NOT HARDCORE ENOUGH FOR ME. I SHALL TAKE MY FOLLOWERS AND MAKE A WAY MORE HARDCORE COLONY OVER THE NEXT VALLEY." Have you heard of the all-American prophet? The blond-haired, blue-eyed voice of god? He didn't come from the middle east, like those other holy men. No, god's favourite prophet was all-American.
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Jose posted:Labour won this is bad for jeremy corbyn
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lmao https://twitter.com/MikeGapes/status/1136807020433199105
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i guess brexit really does mean brexit
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Great, right as I figured out what Brexit means now we have new definitions of antisemtism
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I received some extra slices on my charcuterie board at a spanish restaurant. It was obviously anti Semitic and I am extremely offended.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Great, right as I figured out what Brexit means now we have new definitions of antisemtism "antisemitism" actually means "things jeremy corbyn has said, or looked at, or thought about, or even hasn't thought about because he was probably thinking about thinking about them" so you can see why labour has such a famous and well documented antisemitism problem
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Ferdinand the Bull posted:I received some extra slices on my charcuterie board at a spanish restaurant. It was obviously anti Semitic and I am extremely offended. it was foreskin and he was just trying to be generous
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is BoJo really going to be Prime Minister? The man can barely string together a sound bite.
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Squalid posted:is BoJo really going to be Prime Minister? The man can barely string together a sound bite. probably not tbh comedy option is that bojo loses the leadership contest and switches to the brexit party
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Squalid posted:is BoJo really going to be Prime Minister? The man can barely string together a sound bite. it's still possible, albeit less and less likely, that the parliamentary party knifes him out of going to the membership. but if he makes it, it's very hard to see how the membership don't back him over whichever remoaner quisling the neverboris mps coalesce behind very few people in power actually want it, and it's facially ridiculous, but fear of the alternative is pushing it inexorably forward anyway. in this way boris, like brexit, means brexit
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