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My previous employer did it for Russia but not China.
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Shut up Meg posted:I've heard that quite a few companies are adopting the policy of burner laptops for travel to China. Yup. We issue from a pool of older but still usable machines for travel to hostile political environments, which are destroyed on return.
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Jun 6, 2019 13:29
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So... uh... Why is everyone assuming that the user's trip is for business and not just them being a poo poo and wanting the company to foot the bill for their Facebooking the Great Wall?
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Jun 6, 2019 15:05
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I don't want to imagine someone who'd take a work asset with them on an international vacation.
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Jun 6, 2019 15:10
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Lucky that you have to imagine it TBH.
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Jun 6, 2019 16:23
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Zorak of Michigan posted:I don't want to imagine someone who'd take a work asset with them on an international vacation. I've done it a few times, was nbd. That being said, I flat out refuse to bring my regular work laptop to USA, and I refuse to travel to the old eastern bloc countries + China.
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Jun 6, 2019 16:34
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ConfusedUs posted:Why the hell is this in a spreadsheet at all? I guess that our company, having the glacier pace that it does, decided that they should sort everyones pay out ASAP so, knowing the author of the spreadsheet he will have put his hand up and been all "I'll fix that like the hero I am" When in reality, I imagine that if someone put in a project request to the SAP dudes and said 'make it do this poo poo yo' they would have done it - it might have taken us past the next pay day (or 2... or 3... remember, glacier) but then if they just gave everyone a one off back pay once it was fixed, from that point on you can sleep soundly in the knowledge from then on, it just works I'm sure I'm preaching to the converted.
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Jun 6, 2019 16:48
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Wibla posted:I've done it a few times, was nbd. I was thinking in my USA context, where international travel always means border checkpoints, the risk of intrusive searches, and in general, feels like a big deal. If my vacation is a big deal, I'm not bringing work with me. Actually, I can't recall ever bringing my work laptop with me on a non-work trip, but it's easier to imagine doing so if the trip is just a couple hours from home and there's minimal hassle involved.
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Jun 6, 2019 16:56
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At what point are people going to need to take burner laptops with them when visiting the US?
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Jun 6, 2019 16:58
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chin up everything sucks posted:At what point are people going to need to take burner laptops with them when visiting the US? that's been the case for a few years for completely foreign orgs iirc
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Jun 6, 2019 17:02
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chin up everything sucks posted:At what point are people going to need to take burner laptops with them when visiting the US? That's been recommended for a while now: both for visitors and for Americans Phones and laptops should be clean before going through the borders and shredded if they are taken off you. There are a quite a few news articles that show this isn't paranoia.
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Jun 6, 2019 17:06
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Zorak of Michigan posted:I don't want to imagine someone who'd take a work asset with them on an international vacation. I don't even take my work laptop HOME most days. My loyalty to The Company ends when I stop being paid. gently caress you, I'm not taking a work laptop on vacation. I'm also shunting my phone into family-and-close-friends-only mode.
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Jun 6, 2019 17:19
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I left my work assets at home when I toured Ukraine, but that was as much me not wanting to be obligated to do work as anything. We have a travel safety team at work who told me as long as I'm not crossing contested borders or interacting with protesters on either side, it's fine. The lady who replied to my question had even been to Kiyv the month before and gave me restaurant recommendations. We have a list of sketchy countries and will hand over a burner (usually a Macbook Air that's nearing EOL anyway), but we don't do business in those countries, so it's a relatively rare request.
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Jun 6, 2019 17:26
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:I left my work assets at home when I toured Ukraine, but that was as much me not wanting to be obligated to do work as anything. We have a travel safety team at work who told me as long as I'm not crossing contested borders or interacting with protesters on either side, it's fine. The lady who replied to my question had even been to Kiyv the month before and gave me restaurant recommendations. I was in Lviv last month and had my work laptop with me; company didn't indicate we should be taking any precautions  But Lviv is practically Western compared to Kyiv, from what I gather
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Data Graham posted:I was in Lviv last month and had my work laptop with me; company didn't indicate we should be taking any precautions Really? Kiyv reminded me of Portland, only cleaner and with better street art. Odessa, too, but it felt a bit tense being closer to the contested regions. The only times I had to rely on my translation app was ordering food from a street vendor and trying to get allergy medication at a pharmacy, because everyone had at least rudimentary English skills. 10/10, would play music in Ukraine any time.
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Jun 6, 2019 17:33
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:Really? Kiyv reminded me of Portland, only cleaner and with better street art. Odessa, too, but it felt a bit tense being closer to the contested regions. The only times I had to rely on my translation app was ordering food from a street vendor and trying to get allergy medication at a pharmacy, because everyone had at least rudimentary English skills. 10/10, would play music in Ukraine any time. To be fair all I saw of Kyiv was the airport, so discount any and all opinions from me as hearsay  But from what I'd been reading the western half of the country was historically a lot less in the Russian orbit, never having been part of the Empire, like to the point where they were even considering switching to the latin alphabet; and the old cultural divisions were still in evidence today in the western/eastern affinities of the respective sides of the country. I don't know where the boundaries are, though. I hope there's one of those Terrible Maps about it. Lviv seemed completely "normal", for what it's worth. Like just a nice European-ish place. With an insane gimmick restaurant scene https://www.fest.lviv.ua/en/restaurants/
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Jun 6, 2019 17:38
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Shut up Meg posted:That's been recommended for a while now: both for visitors and for Americans Ye I work for a Canadian Law firm and we have clean laptops and phones available to our lawyers that a lot of them use when going down to the US. The "Federation of Law Societies of Canada" recommends lawyers take cleaned devices when traveling to the US due to there electronic devices search laws. I would imagine a lot of other industries are the same.
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Jun 6, 2019 18:16
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Data Graham posted:To be fair all I saw of Kyiv was the airport, so discount any and all opinions from me as hearsay Oh god, Boryspil might as well be in the 3rd world compared to Kiyv. It's an incredibly depressing 45 minute drive from the city, and no one seems to like having to work there. I've never met such openly hostile airport employees, and I've flown out of some weird rural airports just after 9-11 when everyone was a paranoid, confrontational rear end in a top hat. Apparently Kiyv's thing is shopping malls, and there's an extensive network of underground tunnels shoved full of stalls and tiny shops. Our tour guide kept making sarcastic jokes about capitalism while we walked thru the old part of the city. Trying to make this derail IT related...I tried to roll without a SIM card while in Europe. Free wifi was relatively plentiful, but didn't seem to offer much bandwidth. I play Pokemon Go and was looking forward to picking up some regionals, but the best I could do was a trio of Mr. Mimes in the Schipol airport, because the drat game wouldn't even load in most places in Ukraine. Paris allegedly had municipal wifi, but it never worked consistently. Cool idea, meh implementation.
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A ticket came in...from a provisioning tech asking if we could download RAM. It was not clear, for quite a while, whether or not he was serious. Dude just straight-faced an entire chat room for like 5 minutes before finally admitting he just wanted to see how far it'd go. You glorious bastard, I'm definitely nominating you for one of our dumb internal awards next time they come around. And yes, the chat did immediately get bombed by so many sheep emojis.
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Jun 7, 2019 00:39
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:A ticket came in...from a provisioning tech asking if we could download RAM. sudo swapon
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:A ticket came in...from a provisioning tech asking if we could download RAM. Should've sent him to https://downloadmoreram.com/
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Geemer posted:Should've sent him to https://downloadmoreram.com/ Someone did so I didn't have to.
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Jun 7, 2019 02:28
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Shut up Meg posted:That's been recommended for a while now: both for visitors and for Americans
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Jun 7, 2019 11:53
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I went to Australia for work once, my company were rather sketchy about sorting my VISA properly - I think i should have only been allowed to like advertise at a trade show, not do any actual work... so I just took my blackberry (lol blackberry) and had someone over there have a laptop ready and waiting for me in case i got asked. That was an interesting few months.
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angry armadillo posted:I went to Australia for work once, my company were rather sketchy about sorting my VISA properly - I think i should have only been allowed to like advertise at a trade show, not do any actual work... so I just took my blackberry (lol blackberry) and had someone over there have a laptop ready and waiting for me in case i got asked. Our border guys would be more inclined to be investigative about your stuff if it was an actual blackberry instead of the branded phone .
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Jun 7, 2019 15:01
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What's that old adage about never making changes on a Friday? Our website was updated and the shiny new graphic that people click on to make online police reports now redirects to the completely wrong site. They made this change an hour before 5pm on a Friday.  Edit: Finally fixed this morning. Best part is the website team claimed that nothing had been changed and that someone unrelated had sent out "a bad link". Is it really so hard to just admit you screwed up and take responsibility? Marcade fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Jun 10, 2019 |
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Jun 7, 2019 22:56
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JFC, no matter what day of the week it is, if it's a customer facing production change, do it when there are fewer (preferably none) customers that will see it.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Our border guys would be more inclined to be investigative about your stuff if it was an actual blackberry instead of the branded phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZaC1kcZZlE
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Arquinsiel posted:So... uh... It's a combo trip! He's there for a week for business (which he doesn't need VPN) then there for two weeks for personal time!
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Our border guys would be more inclined to be investigative about your stuff if it was an actual blackberry instead of the branded phone The Australian Border Security show is constantly on TV in Norway, and it's equal parts hilarious and dystopian.
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evobatman posted:The Australian Border Security show is constantly on TV in Norway, and it's equal parts hilarious and dystopian. 
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evobatman posted:The Australian Border Security show is constantly on TV in Norway, and it's equal parts hilarious and dystopian.  at them for wasting her time and making her think she'd lose some gift from her dead mom or some poo poo.
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Getting word that somebody we look after might have started on a project, had a load of marketing created and built the brand of the thing they're trying to launch based on a domain name they do not own and had not made any enquiries about purchasing from the current owners 
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Thanks Ants posted:Getting word that somebody we look after might have started on a project, had a load of marketing created and built the brand of the thing they're trying to launch based on a domain name they do not own and had not made any enquiries about purchasing from the current owners
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Thanks Ants posted:Getting word that somebody we look after might have started on a project, had a load of marketing created and built the brand of the thing they're trying to launch based on a domain name they do not own and had not made any enquiries about purchasing from the current owners Let us know when they hire a hitman to go and extort the domain from the current owner.
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Thanks Ants posted:Getting word that somebody we look after might have started on a project, had a load of marketing created and built the brand of the thing they're trying to launch based on a domain name they do not own and had not made any enquiries about purchasing from the current owners Odds of this person ever being held responsible for their huge fuckup?
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Thanatosian posted:Odds of this person ever being held responsible for their huge fuckup? Stop writing Joker origin stories, I can't take it anymore.
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Thanks Ants posted:Getting word that somebody we look after might have started on a project, had a load of marketing created and built the brand of the thing they're trying to launch based on a domain name they do not own and had not made any enquiries about purchasing from the current owners I routinely run into the much smaller scale version of this with phone numbers. A company will have a bunch of DID blocks and they're set up so that employees' internal extensions match the last 4 digits of their direct line for convenience's sake. Like they own the block of numbers 555-123X and e.g. there's an employee with the internal extension 1236 and a direct phone line of 555-1236. Then they hire another employee, give them extension 1240, and print business cards for them listing 555-1240 as their number when the 555-124X block actually belongs to who knows who.
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Just overheard a manager answer a new sysadmin: "why yes, we are using the free version of TeamViewer here." He wasn't even that surprised.
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Thanks Ants posted:Getting word that somebody we look after might have started on a project, had a load of marketing created and built the brand of the thing they're trying to launch based on a domain name they do not own and had not made any enquiries about purchasing from the current owners quote:21 Jun 2002 (site is gone now, but it had a lovely song 'We've got your name, lalala')
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