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Godzilla07 posted:The non-TB 13" was the best option when the only advantage the 13” TB MBP had was Touch ID. Today the lack of updates have created a significant performance gap between the non-TB and TB MBPs, and the Air has Touch ID, better battery life, and an improved keyboard. The Mac Air CPU stinks
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Bob Morales posted:The Mac Air CPU stinks It’s fine for basic uses. I just won’t get one because of the keyboard.
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I'm interested in replacing my Apple Cinema Display 27" with a 4k monitor that I'll be using for a wide variety of purposes (gaming, graphic design, whatever is orthogonal to both those). It needs to have the ability for hdmi in. Would the Viewsonic VX3211-4k-mhd be a good option?
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Jun 6, 2019 04:03
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Shaocaholica posted:Waiting for a fanless Mac they can weld shut iPad Pro thread is thataway ~>
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Jun 6, 2019 04:06
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The iPad Pro is the best portable computer Apple makes today.
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wdarkk posted:I'm interested in replacing my Apple Cinema Display 27" with a 4k monitor that I'll be using for a wide variety of purposes (gaming, graphic design, whatever is orthogonal to both those). It needs to have the ability for hdmi in. Yes - run it at native, what adapter are you using
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Gyshall posted:Just started a new job and I'm using a MacBook pro 2017 model. Just a quick search for Anker dongles on Amazon. You'd need 2 of these to fulfill all of your needs, unless perhaps you can find a dongle that's 2x HDMI and 1x ethernet. https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Premiu...X9EWVXLJ&sr=8-3
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I was going to grab a 2015 13 inch... but looking at swappa prices it’s actually cheaper to get a 2014 15 inch with 16 gigs of ram. Any reason not to grab one that’s in good used condition?
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Jun 6, 2019 06:50
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The battery is probably shot
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Jun 6, 2019 06:53
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Mu Zeta posted:The battery is probably shot 400 cycles, and I’m happy paying the $200 for Apple to replace it (and get a new keyboard and trackpad out of the deal too)
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Jun 6, 2019 06:57
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LionArcher posted:I was going to grab a 2015 13 inch... but looking at swappa prices it’s actually cheaper to get a 2014 15 inch with 16 gigs of ram. Any reason not to grab one that’s in good used condition? I prefer the force touch on the 2015 but no big dea
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Jun 6, 2019 12:55
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FCKGW posted:The iPad Pro is the best portable computer Apple makes today. 
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Jun 6, 2019 14:25
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Bob Morales posted:Yes - run it at native, what adapter are you using No adapter right now because my 2010 pro’s 1060 has DisplayPort out. In the future IDK.
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Jun 6, 2019 17:18
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Gyshall posted:Just started a new job and I'm using a MacBook pro 2017 model. Hadlock posted:That reminds me, here is my final home office setup. I've been meaning to post this forever. I live in a moderately small 1 bedroom in a major urban area and work from home probably 2 full days a week + 9am-noon three days a week, so it's important to have a good work area. For my work mac I have a thunderbolt 3 dock from lenovo, it has a single 6' cable that runs from the mac into a cabinet where the dock lives. Also works with my PC, see above (from the laptop megathread)
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Jun 6, 2019 21:33
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I’m going to grad school this summer, so I’m using this as an excuse to get a new laptop. Question for those of you with a MacBook Air: did you ever wish you had a 13” MBP instead? I won’t be doing anything intensive with my new laptop on a daily basis. There’s a small chance I’d use it for photo editing, but I already have an iMac for that and doubt I’ll have time to take many photos anyway. I guess I’m curious about long-term experience, stuff that goes beyond comparing stats side-by-side.
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Jun 6, 2019 21:34
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Nobody knows about long term for the MBA because it was just updated October 2018. It has a good display now so it's a good machine overall but with a bad keyboard.
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Jun 7, 2019 01:00
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As long as I get the brand new MBP, I’ll get the supposedly-fixed keyboard, correct?
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There's no fixed keyboard. There's merely varying levels of broken keyboards.
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Jun 7, 2019 03:15
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I think the MBA has the older keyboard than the just recently updated Macbook Pro. It does have the 4 year warranty to cover the keyboard though.
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Jun 7, 2019 03:16
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Bob Socko posted:As long as I get the brand new MBP, I’ll get the supposedly-fixed keyboard, correct? The 2018, not the 2019 one. I have the 2017 one on my 2016 MBP and it’s working perfectly after two years so I think the hype is overblown. I also love typing on it and don’t understand the haters. The only downside is other keyboards feel like mushy bullshit now.
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It's because it has very little key travel and feels like AIDS for my finger
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Mu Zeta posted:I think the MBA has the older keyboard than the just recently updated Macbook Pro. It does have the 4 year warranty to cover the keyboard though. And they will replace it (if it has problems) with the new one
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LionArcher posted:And they will replace it (if it has problems) with the new one I think the MBA still gets the old replacement keyboard that doesn’t actually fix anything. There’s a new new keyboard that supposedly addresses the actual problem. That keyboard may not fit the MBA. tuyop posted:The 2018, not the 2019 one. I have the 2017 one on my 2016 MBP and it’s working perfectly after two years so I think the hype is overblown. It’s a definite problem because enough people are having it, but yeah, it’s not like MBP keyboards are ticking time bombs that’ll all fail in a prescribed time frame. It’s a bad failure rate for Mac’s, but for Microsoft Surfaces it’s just another Thursday. I love typing on mine too. My 2012 MBP feels like I’m typing on sand compared to it.
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tuyop posted:The 2018, not the 2019 one. I have the 2017 one on my 2016 MBP and it’s working perfectly after two years so I think the hype is overblown. My last three offices everyone had a Mac laptop and everyone with 2017 and newer have all had problems of varying levels. For me it was my left shift/command/alt/control and left side of the spacebar. Yes you CAN get it repaired for free, the problem is that there's a three day turn around on keyboard replacement because the laptop is built as a single unit and it's not easy to do. If you're a software developer it takes almost as long as the trade in period to get your dev environment setup and be productive again so you basically have to suffer with it until you get the flu or take a week of vacation. Keyboard problem is definitely real, especially if you, like the name of the product says, use it professionally, and it goes in your bag everyday where it's liable to get crumbs in it, or you eat lunch over it every day. By comparison, my thinkpad has drain holes under the keyboard so that when you spill your coffee on the keyboard it just goes right though without doing any damage.
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Escape Goat posted:Thanks I had no idea and was close to buying one. This product lineup is a mess. Will try for 2018 Touch Bar refurb. Be sure to keep a can of compressed air handy.
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Hadlock posted:If you're a software developer it takes almost as long as the trade in period to get your dev environment setup and be productive again so you basically have to suffer with it until you get the flu or take a week of vacation. Are you seriously telling me you’d take a laptop to be serviced without taking a full bootable clone of the drive first? And wiping it too of course.
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Guys, we're this close to a clinical consensus that "crumbs" are not the cause of the keyboard problems. Can't wait for another iteration of watching people on the train flicking through their iPhone killing all the suspended apps, "to save battery"
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Hey all, I asked mods if it would be all right to share this. A few months ago some of the guys on the Ars Technica mac forum (and myself) started putting together a bi-weekly Apple/Mac podcast because we were tired of all the other ones out there. Aside from talking about the recent stuff, we have a specific topic for each episode where we go into detail on something like retro Apple, or topics of interest to power users. My cohost also does an every episode segment about HomeKit where he reviews stuff and talks about improving automated home setups. We just posted our big WWDC keynote special so I figured it would be a good time to see if goons would like it as well. It's called the Icon Garden and the RSS is http://icongardenshow.libsyn.com/rss . There's also Overcast and Apple Podcasts and such. kefkafloyd fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Jun 7, 2019 |
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Ok, so seriously now: Going with a 2019 13” MBP over a 2018 MBA will get me a maybe-less-bad keyboard along with the advertised side-by-side performance specs? kefkafloyd posted:Hey all, Bob Socko fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Jun 7, 2019 |
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Bob Socko posted:Ok, so seriously now: Yes.
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tuyop posted:Yes.
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Krispy Wafer posted:I think the MBA still gets the old replacement keyboard that doesn’t actually fix anything. There’s a new new keyboard that supposedly addresses the actual problem. That keyboard may not fit the MBA. There might be an eventual “better” 3rd-gen keyboard for the MBA. The verge has a line that makes it sound like the air will eventually get it https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/21/18634247/macbook-butterfly-keyboard-problems-apple-repair-new-materials quote:Some current MacBook Pro 13-inch with Touch Bar and 15-inch customers that bring in their keyboards for repair will actually have their keyboards replaced with ones that have these new materials, Apple says. That will only happen for MacBooks that have the third-generation butterfly keyboard today: the 2018 models of the MacBook Pro and the new MacBook Air.
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Bob Socko posted:Thank you! If you can wait until November the Air might get an update (I’d say “should” but who knows anymore with the Air and rMB, and I expect that Apple’s probably comfortable keeping their lower end machines on a lazier upgrade cycle) before then. If you go with the MBP make sure you’re getting the quad core model with the touchbar. The non-touchbar pro is from like 2017 and has a dual core CPU from back then and is waaaaay underpowered compared to the 2019 models.
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Bob Socko posted:I subscribed. So help me god, this better be good. Thanks! We try to not be like other shows, so I hope you enjoy.
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I finally replaced my mid-2012 MBA with a 2017 version (i5, 1.8). It was $849 after a $150 "educational" discount, has double the ram and still has the normal keyboard, so I'm happy. Also if I want to get a 4k monitor it works with that. My old computer had a horrible battery (though I never really used it anyway), the touchpad was failing and was slow as poo poo. speaking of: https://www.asus.com/us/Commercial-Monitors/PB287Q/specifications/ when it says "3840x2160 at 60Hz (DisplayPort)" does that mean it's a DisplayPort device? that would mean apparently that I can connect it to my thunderbolt. actionjackson fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Jun 8, 2019 |
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You can connect anything to a DisplayPort with the right adapter. But yeah, a TB3 to DisplayPort will work.
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Mine is thunderbolt 2. I currently have a HDMI to thunderbolt 1 adapter. I'm just clarifying if that will allow me to get the stated resolution.
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HDMI might only get you 30hz at 4k, which is bad and very noticeable when moving the mouse pointer around. You will probably want a mini display port cable, which I believe is supported by the TB2 port.
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