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fishmech posted:Gosh guys you're right. We should replace those useless HR people with some algorithms and random managers. That definitely won't cause any problems. Or replace them with bodies that actually represent worker's interests (i.e. unions) instead of a risk-mitigation team serving the interests of the company that just masquerades as representing workers.
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Baronash posted:~snip, don't feel like eating a prob today~ HR's primary job in tech companies is keeping the techies from murdering each other because they are all huge petty babies with no social skills. Also arguing with insurers. Goddamn so much arguing.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The ideal interviewee is a charismatic sociopath. For real though. The most useful 'market' skill I picked up in college was through passing face-to-face exams without much actual knowledge. Some charisma, ability to read interviewers and ability to make educated guesses goes a long way. A person who's a charismatic pathological liar would do even better.
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enki42 posted:Or replace them with bodies that actually represent worker's interests (i.e. unions) instead of a risk-mitigation team serving the interests of the company that just masquerades as representing workers. Unions don’t replace HR. You can’t make HR stop being evil even with a union. You need to remove the source of the conflict, that the company wants to grind you into paste. That’s the profit motive that must be crushed if you want to fix HR.
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Baronash posted:No, but you seem awfully intent on bagging on people for their education choices and how it affects nebulous concepts of intelligence and worth that allow you to consider yourself (or some ill-defined other) "better." I love how you keep pivoting back to pretending it's my own personal failings that make me dislike HR and not every other problem they have that people have already stated in this thread. 
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ryonguy posted:I love how you keep pivoting back to pretending it's my own personal failings that make me dislike HR and not every other problem they have that people have already stated in this thread. ryonguy posted:some fuckup with a community college 1.5 GPA communications degree ryonguy posted:failed into their career majoring in bullshit business "degrees" ryonguy posted:some theater major who grabbed an MBA with some spare credit hours I actually am pretty comfortable calling this mountain-sized chip on your shoulder a personal failing on your part.
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HR are high school counselors for grown ups.
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Baronash posted:I actually am pretty comfortable calling this mountain-sized chip on your shoulder a personal failing on your part. Yet all the legitimate poo poo I pointed out is why you keep refusing to acknowledge, just like every other lovely HR rep out there. And chip on his shoulder? That’s some great projection there.
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I've been working on a project about this, but if any of you have PMs, please send me any of all these "innovations" where tech just reinvents some dystopian aspect of a previous industry.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:HR are high school counselors for grown ups. You know you're in tech when HR has a form letter for "Please shower every day" to save time.
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Solkanar512 posted:Yet all the legitimate poo poo I pointed out is why you keep refusing to acknowledge, just like every other lovely HR rep out there. I'm not acknowledging it because I'm not defending HR (except one tangential response to the tired "hue hue, hr so dumb they want 30 years of iOS experience" meme that has an obvious answer). I don't actually have any interest in this specific HR discussion. I neither work in the field, nor have more than a passing understanding of what they do. You probably are right about their issues, I would have no way of knowing. The point of my posts should be obvious: it's incredibly lovely and pretentious as hell for anyone to hold themselves above another because of their education/gpa (lol, how insecure can you be?)/major. I mostly haven't responded to you because you're not the one doing this.
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I've worked some 20 years in tech and the only interactions I've ever had with HR have been about hiring or payroll stuff - either hiring me, hiring someone for my team, or something about my benefits, etc. Any actual social issues within the team have always been dealt with by the corresponding tech lead or equivalent (a fellow socially awkward dev), in every company I've been in so far at least. I really don't get the hate for HR, they're doing their job like everyone else. "They're tools of the company" well no poo poo buddy, guess what so are you
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Pochoclo posted:I've worked some 20 years in tech and the only interactions I've ever had with HR have been about hiring or payroll stuff - either hiring me, hiring someone for my team, or something about my benefits, etc. Any actual social issues within the team have always been dealt with by the corresponding tech lead or equivalent (a fellow socially awkward dev), in every company I've been in so far at least. Just wait until you get a promotion or job transfer denied because some clueless HR drone decided that you needed a few more years experience, despite being the hiring manager's first choice.
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Solkanar512 posted:Just wait until you get a promotion or job transfer denied because some clueless HR drone decided that you needed a few more years experience, despite being the hiring manager's first choice.
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Pochoclo posted:I really don't get the hate for HR, they're doing their job like everyone else. "They're tools of the company" well no poo poo buddy, guess what so are you You're not in the US though
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Solkanar512 posted:Just wait until you get a promotion or job transfer denied because some clueless HR drone decided that you needed a few more years experience, despite being the hiring manager's first choice.
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Solkanar512 posted:Just wait until you get a promotion or job transfer denied because some clueless HR drone decided that you needed a few more years experience, despite being the hiring manager's first choice. Shockingly, managers don't always make the best choice the first time.
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I'm really looking forward to the stories about employees being pressured to take their salary in Fakecoin, getting small punishments when they don't, etc.
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Solkanar512 posted:Just wait until you get a promotion or job transfer denied because some clueless HR drone decided that you needed a few more years experience, despite being the hiring manager's first choice. Let me guess, something in your HR file came back to bite you? Maybe? Rent-A-Cop posted:You know you're in tech when HR has a form letter for "Please shower every day" to save time.
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I wonder if Amazon HR sends form letters about taking a shower every day to the warehouse workers. They probably have lots of other form letters for warehouse workers.
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Family Values posted:I wonder if Amazon HR sends form letters about taking a shower every day to the warehouse workers. They probably have lots of other form letters for warehouse workers.
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Family Values posted:I wonder if Amazon HR sends form letters about taking a shower every day to the warehouse workers. They probably have lots of other form letters for warehouse workers. "Based on our warehouse metrics, we have identified an excessive usage of water in the locker rooms after shifts. Please note that showers are limited to no more than 30 seconds per shift, per individual. To reduce costs, we will be installing badge access to shower stalls to track usage. Water usage in excess of 30 seconds will be charged to employee canteen accounts. Thank you for your understanding. Get back to work, peons."
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Family Values posted:I'm really looking forward to the stories about employees being pressured to take their salary in Fakecoin, getting small punishments when they don't, etc. It's going to be way more fun if it really is completely optional and employees just do it for no reason hoping to get in early for another bubble You're going to get the same Medium posts later on as if they got pressured
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Jun 7, 2019 18:01
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Write script get scrip. Scrip and save? Scripped off.
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If the guy implementing the company blockchain scrip isn't scamming the poo poo out of it he's doing his job wrong.
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Sundae posted:"Based on our warehouse metrics, we have identified an excessive usage of water in the locker rooms after shifts. Please note that showers are limited to no more than 30 seconds per shift, per individual. NINETY NINE - PERCENT WATER
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Police state outsources surveillance to you! At reduced price!quote:f you're walking in Bloomfield, New Jersey, there's a good chance you're being recorded. But it's not a corporate office or warehouse security camera capturing the footage -- it's likely a Ring doorbell made by Amazon.
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http://twitter.com/ekp/status/1136686456422801408 Welp, I guess Twitter embed is broken. Ellen Pao tweets: quote:This Uber article is brutal. "Uber's most important innovation has been to produce staggering levels of private wealth without creating any sustainable benefits for consumers, workers, the cities they serve, or anyone else"
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i've never understood why people invest in uber. there's no point where it can ever be profitable.
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Groovelord Neato posted:i've never understood why people invest in uber. there's no point where it can ever be profitable.
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Groovelord Neato posted:i've never understood why people invest in uber. there's no point where it can ever be profitable. And a government can wipe out entire markets at the stroke of a pen.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:It's legal gambling. An honest ponzi
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skooma512 posted:And a government can wipe out entire markets at the stroke of a pen. In this economy??!
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Groovelord Neato posted:i've never understood why people invest in uber. there's no point where it can ever be profitable. but what if youre wrong.
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Groovelord Neato posted:i've never understood why people invest in uber. there's no point where it can ever be profitable. venture capital is already throwing buckets of cash in the hope that one of the many bets you place pays off enough to cover the losses, desperation is baked in as a necessity in uber's case they're just plausible enough to not go bankrupt quickly and with dignity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxZXptGpXng
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Groovelord Neato posted:i've never understood why people invest in uber. there's no point where it can ever be profitable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory
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Groovelord Neato posted:i've never understood why people invest in uber. there's no point where it can ever be profitable. And I've never understood why Uber keeps hiring new chiefs. There's no point since they'll step down shortly afterward anyway. https://twitter.com/MarketWatch/status/1137093355035340800
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yeah after i posted that i remembered the guy that invested in theranos thought it was a good idea to be interviewed for the documentary in a bitcoin tie. and at some conference said he'd invest in a company in which holmes was involved in the future.
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HR is a great tool for gaining compliance in employees and also getting a heartbeat on your 20%
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