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RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Can't wait for Flashy to meet up with Atomic Samurai and we get to see what an Atomic Slash looks like in slow-motion.

Also Darkshine lariat blending a bunch of monsters into Pig God's mouth.

Also Bang and Bomb opening the Gates of Death.

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Shadow0
Jun 16, 2008


If to live in this style is to be eccentric, it must be confessed that there is something good in eccentricity.

Grimey Drawer
Now for a "different" opinion:
https://comicbook.com/anime/2019/05/01/one-punch-man-fans-praise-cgi-animation-centipede/

I suppose it did look good on its own, but saying you didn't notice it was CGI is a bridge too far.

I do see a surprising amount of people saying that they don't care (or even notice something) that the show is poorly animated. I think though that if the show had been this way since S1, it would not be anywhere nearly as popular as it is now.

Shadow0 fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Jun 7, 2019

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
nah s2 is still very popular and moving merch

Popo
Apr 24, 2008

Homestuck is a true work of art surpassing all of Shakespeare's works.

Shadow0 posted:

Now for a "different" opinion:
https://comicbook.com/anime/2019/05/01/one-punch-man-fans-praise-cgi-animation-centipede/

I suppose it did look good on its own, but saying you didn't notice it was CGI is a bridge too far.
It looks fine but it's also super simple from an animation perspective since it's just the head and then however many repeated segments with very simple offset leg wiggling moving along a set path. At least they're leaning into the strengths of CGI for lower budget TV: Easy repeating of models and animation. The compositing of 2D vfx on top to add those motion smears is nice as well. Wonder how long this was made after Spiderverse.

Also, I like how OPM fans praise CGI translates to three twitter posts and a handful of likes.

Hace
Feb 13, 2012

<<Mobius 1, Engage.>>
opm has the same appeal as naruto, you could animate it on fives with toilet paper and itd still have a devout following

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

Hace posted:

opm has the same appeal as naruto, you could animate it on fives with toilet paper and itd still have a devout following



edit: Sonic makes a guest appearance

EVIL Gibson fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Jun 7, 2019

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I mean, if I were fighting a guy who can turn his head like an owl, I would not doubt that he can see me.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Zero Punch Man KING > One Punch Man Saitama.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

yes please

AndwhatIseeisme
Mar 30, 2010

Being alive is pretty much a constant stream of embarrassment.
Fun Shoe

Marvel, please just let Murata illustrate an issue of Spiderman. How many hints do you need the man to drop before he has to show up at your office begging you to let him do it for free?

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

AndwhatIseeisme posted:

Marvel, please just let Murata illustrate an issue of Spiderman. How many hints do you need the man to drop before he has to show up at your office begging you to let him do it for free?

If Murata's early career is any indication, Marvel just needs to host a "design a villain" contest and have the prize be getting to draw the comic and Murata will win it.

JamMasterJim
Mar 27, 2010

Hellsau posted:

If Murata's early career is any indication, Marvel just needs to host a "design a villain" contest and have the prize be getting to draw the comic and Murata will win it.

Except Greg Land will win it somehow

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.
please don't use that name in the murata thread thank you

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!
Fun Shoe

Peter B Parker isn't in sweatpants, no buy

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

EVIL Gibson posted:


edit: Sonic makes a guest appearance


Every time I see this I giggle and see something new. Like how the upper legs keep moving back and forth but there's a lot of motion around him implying that he has really wobbly knees while flailing his feet around randomly.




Also who is Greg Land?

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

The Pain fight is animated beautifully and I won't hear otherwise.

Nanigans
Aug 31, 2005

~Waku Waku~

Darth TNT posted:


Also who is Greg Land?

Hack Western comic “artist” who traced his panels from porn.

Seriously.

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
Murata and Land do have one thing in common: horniness

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Electric Phantasm posted:

The Pain fight is animated beautifully and I won't hear otherwise.

Atsushi Wakabayashi owns and I'm going to assume that in 2019 anyone posting stills from his stuff is doing it ironically

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

Electric Phantasm posted:

The Pain fight is animated beautifully and I won't hear otherwise.

Nah it's actually pretty trash. The style they use to animate it is very fluid and opens up a lot of movement options, but the weight of the key frame placements are horribly off.

If you want to see an example of that same exact animation method done right in the series, go watch the one tails naruto vs sasuske fight right before the time jump, the action is on point in ways that the pain fight could only dream sticking the landing on.

snackcakes
May 7, 2005

A joint venture of Matsumura Fishworks and Tamaribuchi Heavy Manufacturing Concern


Well sure if you freeze it on that frame it looks like poo poo but that's one of my favorite episodes of that show. On the whole though, yeah, naruto is pretty much trash :goonsay:

Olesh
Aug 4, 2008

Why did the circus close?

A long, chilling list of animal rights violations.

snackcakes posted:

Well sure if you freeze it on that frame it looks like poo poo but that's one of my favorite episodes of that show. On the whole though, yeah, naruto is pretty much trash :goonsay:

Doesn't most good animation do things like this intentionally to make animated movement seem more "natural"? I seem to remember having watched a video about the evolution of animation techniques and finding out that lots of intermediate frames look incredibly strange because like this, but I can't remember the specifics.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

It's called a smear

https://idearocketanimation.com/8857-animation-techniques-smear/

Few years back, people figured out this was how blizz made animation in ow look so smooth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk4coGVVfVU

Slightly Absurd
Mar 22, 2004


Yeah, smears are super common in animation, and it's usually pretty unfair to isolate frames like that, since when it's in motion, you likely won't even notice the individual frames looking weird. I'm sure you could even isolate some frames in season one of one punch man that look really silly if you divorce it from the action it's a part of.

One of the most famous examples of smearing would be "The Dover Boys"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR0eBWDVAtw

or the Krust that cannot be Busted.

Bleck
Jan 7, 2014

No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.
there's definitely a weird thing where a significant number of artists/animators insist that their use of wobbly elastic tweens makes animation look better and then one hundred perfect of their audience says otherwise

Slightly Absurd posted:

when it's in motion, you likely won't even notice the individual frames looking weird.

how do they know to pause on those frames if they didn't look weird in motion

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Smears are like any other technique, if used properly they work well and if not you get cases like that weird sonic running animation.

When done well they blend in and you have to really be looking for them to notice:

https://sakugabooru.com/data/d4d2f2864b9c56845f426c550188081f.mp4

Bleck posted:

how do they know to pause on those frames if they didn't look weird in motion

In the case of OW it's because people started noticing them when editing their own potgs for youtube videos.

ninjewtsu
Oct 9, 2012

Bleck posted:

there's definitely a weird thing where a significant number of artists/animators insist that their use of wobbly elastic tweens makes animation look better and then one hundred perfect of their audience says otherwise


how do they know to pause on those frames if they didn't look weird in motion

sometimes people pause videos

sometimes they happen to pause on smear frames and find what's on their screen funny

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Even artists and animators who use smear frames enjoy and appreciate how dumb they look in isolation tbh

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Fortunately, Kimetsu no Yaiba is really well animated with really good CGI so I'm getting my fix of "extremely well-animated action show".

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Jimbot posted:

Fortunately, Kimetsu no Yaiba is really well animated with really good CGI so I'm getting my fix of "extremely well-animated action show".

On a related note they use CGI quite sparingly and in smart ways (CGI'd subject far from the PoV, shading similar to the hand drawn, used solely for motion shots and hard to animate designs) and even then its quite obvious when they do use it.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

I'll have to watch it again but in the latest episode it looks like they used it during the fight when he's dodging around and thought it looked pretty great. A bit obvious, yeah, but as far as CGI in a traditional animation show, it was pretty top tier.

Lamebot
Sep 8, 2005

ロボ顔菌~♡

lmao spider pig

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Lamebot posted:

lmao spider pig

Spider HAM, you fool.

and seriously you should watch Into the Spider-Verse it is good

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Hellsau posted:

Spider HAM, you fool.

and seriously you should watch Into the Spider-Verse it is good

It's also loving weird in that it's a Spider-Man origin story movie but...not about Peter Parker???

Dr Subterfuge
Aug 31, 2005

TIME TO ROC N' ROLL
Miles Morales's story in Ultimate Spider-Man was so popular that when Marvel killed off the Ultimate universe, Miles was (one of?) the only ones that got to become part of the main continuity. Considering there have been no less than three Peter Parker origin stories told in the last 15 years, making one about the next most popular Spider-Man actually makes a lot of sense.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Dr Subterfuge posted:

Miles Morales's story in Ultimate Spider-Man was so popular that when Marvel killed off the Ultimate universe, Miles was (one of?) the only ones that got to become part of the main continuity. Considering there have been no less than three Peter Parker origin stories told in the last 15 years, making one about the next most popular Spider-Man actually makes a lot of sense.

Miles getting into the mainline Marvel universe probably had more to do with his creator Brian Bendis still being a big force at Marvel at the time that the Ultimate universe was being eliminated, and he still wanted to write more Miles comics.

also wolverine's son got ported over too lol man the ultimate universe went downhill fast once Jeph Loeb got involved

Hellsau fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Jun 8, 2019

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Daken? Or a different son?

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

Bleck posted:

how do they know to pause on those frames if they didn't look weird in motion
It's almost as if the explosion of user-generated video content has given everyone trivial access to frame by frame viewing capabilities!

Even outside of video editors and video player playback speed settings, Youtube itself has < > as prev/next frame keys.

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Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)

Xarbala posted:

Smears are like any other technique, if used properly they work well and if not you get cases like that weird sonic running animation.

When done well they blend in and you have to really be looking for them to notice:

https://sakugabooru.com/data/d4d2f2864b9c56845f426c550188081f.mp4





Ugh Season 1 was so good

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