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This was posted in the right wing media thread, highly relevant here: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/08/technology/youtube-radical.html https://twitter.com/cwarzel/status/1137363172287963137
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FMguru posted:I've seen it suggested that the casual hard liquor drinking business culture of the post-war Mad Men years (wet bars in offices, three-martini lunches, etc) was in large part driven by WWII vets self-medicating their PTSD. We'd have learned a lot more about life if we'd read Slaughterhouse Five and Catch-22 instead of Red Badge of Courage and All Quiet on the Western Front as our War Is Bad books in high school. Something that shows the effect war has on the survivors. Also to remind people what actual censorship challenges look like.
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Flesh Forge posted:Just a reminder of who Katie McHugh is: That is a comment on her being raped tho, there's an implication that if she hadn't been a Nazi it wouldn't have happened to her and thus it's her fault for being a Nazi I think she sucks rear end and is faking being reformed but uh it's still mega hosed up if even a fraction of what she's saying is true and that shouldn't happen to anyone
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Syd Midnight posted:We'd have learned a lot more about life if we'd read Slaughterhouse Five and Catch-22 instead of Red Badge of Courage and All Quiet on the Western Front as our War Is Bad books in high school. Something that shows the effect war has on the survivors. All Quiet on the Western Front is really good tho
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:All Quiet on the Western Front is really good tho And it has a much less well-known sequel, The Road Back, in which Remarque follows the survivors of 2nd company after the war in their struggles to reintegrate with German society.
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Jun 8, 2019 18:03
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:All Quiet on the Western Front is really good tho i agree with you, but i also agree that slaughterhouse-5 and catch 22 are better then it
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mandatory lesbian posted:i agree with you, but i also agree that slaughterhouse-5 and catch 22 are better then it The catch-22 film 70s era adaptation is up on Amazon prime.
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mandatory lesbian posted:i agree with you, but i also agree that slaughterhouse-5 and catch 22 are better then it I don't think most high schoolers would really get the underlying criticism in Catch 22, and instead be caught up in the wacky stuff and wonder why the madcap antics concerning chocolate covered cotton and Major Major and the rest are broken up with ghastly bits like Snowden's death and whatnot.
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Jun 8, 2019 18:09
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:That is a comment on her being raped tho, there's an implication that if she hadn't been a Nazi it wouldn't have happened to her and thus it's her fault for being a Nazi Not going to victim blame, but if she wants to be counted as a human again she's going to have to do a hell of a lot more to make up for the damage that she caused by promoting racist violence. As it stands I just wish she'd go the gently caress away and never be heard from again.
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:alex jones has done far more good than bad in this world waking people up to the violence and the lies of the fascist international power structure. my point is proven Stop smoking sumthin, bitch.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Not going to victim blame, but if she wants to be counted as a human again she's going to have to do a hell of a lot more to make up for the damage that she caused by promoting racist violence. As it stands I just wish she'd go the gently caress away and never be heard from again. Yeah, her whole "I left the alt right and you should too" thing smacks not a little of her being unhappy the gravy train ended rather than any actual sincere reconsideration and regret of her own actions, particularly given how conspicuously absent are any sincere or precise statement of remorse for those she herself victimized.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I don't think most high schoolers would really get the underlying criticism in Catch 22, and instead be caught up in the wacky stuff and wonder why the madcap antics concerning chocolate covered cotton and Major Major and the rest are broken up with ghastly bits like Snowden's death and whatnot. I still remember the actual gut punch feeling of reading that book and getting to the party in Rome and that whole section just did a number on me. I haven't been able to read the book a second time, it just...
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Zeroisanumber posted:Not going to victim blame, but if she wants to be counted as a human again she's going to have to do a hell of a lot more to make up for the damage that she caused by promoting racist violence. As it stands I just wish she'd go the gently caress away and never be heard from again. I doubt I’ll ever be on the “they’re not human beings” train (that’s a digression I’ll leave for another place or time) but at the very least I can easily admit any sympathy I might feel for her is smothered by everything she’s done and the fact she’s been pretty unrepentant about it.
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She’s made her bed and will die in it from not being able to afford insulin, but if she gets some rapists killed before she goes blind and loses her foot, I’m all for it.
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This is the disgusting "I'm against prison rape but if it happens to $bad_person I don't care" Stop it.
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Harik posted:This is the disgusting "I'm against prison rape but if it happens to $bad_person I don't care" What can you do about someone who did it to herself? Don’t joke about people suffering in prison because prisons shouldn’t exist, but all these nazis dig their own graves and jump right in.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:What can you do about someone who did it to herself? Don’t joke about people suffering in prison because prisons shouldn’t exist, but all these nazis dig their own graves and jump right in. Maybe if she was in the "women should all be raped (but not me I'm one of the good ones oh god the leopards)" group there'd be some dark irony to it but really you're just treating rape as a punishment for people you disagree with. Which is some really evil just-world poo poo.
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if anything I'm *more* likely to believe in her reform now that we know a concrete reason why she left besides the money running out
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Harik posted:I can laugh when a clansman lights himself on fire burning a cross. That's funny, and directly related to the hate they're spreading. I wasn’t under the impression that people were mocking her for being raped, but were remarking on her starving as a pariah. Yes, it’s not good at all to mock anyone for being raped because that reinforces dangerous ideas about rape and victimization that end up hurting actual people, the same as joking about people suffering in prison.
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C-SPAM: it means "central spam" > the sad altright: is rape good if it happens to out political enemies [debate thread]
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Zwabu posted:This was posted in the right wing media thread, highly relevant here: Who was that dipshit in this thread that said youtube wasn't and shouldn't be a big deal for leftists. It's like the biggest loving platform of indoctrination and far-right disinformation and one of the, if not the, greatest threat that exists online to spreading the ideology of facsism. I've had my friend's 12 year old kid ask me if I knew that women were intellectually inferior to men. Where did he learn that? Youtube video.
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Bedshaped posted:Who was that dipshit in this thread that said youtube wasn't and shouldn't be a big deal for leftists. It's like the biggest loving platform of indoctrination and far-right disinformation and one of the, if not the, greatest threat that exists online to spreading the ideology of facsism. Silly Hyena or maybe kerning chameleon, the luddites blend together to me. Did you ask him how it felt to be intellectually inferior since he fell for obvious bullshit so quickly?
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:What can you do about someone who did it to herself? Don’t joke about people suffering in prison because prisons shouldn’t exist, but all these nazis dig their own graves and jump right in. Which leaves out the whole thing where Nazis specifically prey on people who are hdisnefranchised and miserable and lure them in and then they're stuck there because they're a Nazi now and society hates them which binds them closer together and so on This is literally the prison rape argument, "if you don't like it don't be a criminal"
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Zwabu posted:This was posted in the right wing media thread, highly relevant here: lol, destiny in a nyt article. some are gonna love that https://twitter.com/FarLeftWatch/status/1133390065466527749
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Silver Nitrate posted:today’s the day the Nazis are supposed to show up at Detroit pride, isn’t it :/ i cant imagine the detroit pd is well funded enough to protect them
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:That is a comment on her being raped tho, there's an implication that if she hadn't been a Nazi it wouldn't have happened to her and thus it's her fault for being a Nazi If you want the implication to be there, you can put it there. Just don't forget who she is and how she got where she is now, which is shunned by everyone, waiting tables to get by, and trying to scratch out a new job in media. BENGHAZI 2 posted:Which leaves out the whole thing where Nazis specifically prey on people who are hdisnefranchised and miserable and lure them in and then they're stuck there because they're a Nazi now and society hates them which binds them closer together and so on Ughhhhh. You can put this there if you want it to be there I guess. Flesh Forge has issued a correction as of 20:06 on Jun 8, 2019 |
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imo, rape is bad full stop
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Reclines Obesily posted:lol, destiny in a nyt article. some are gonna love that definitely not a fan of this guy but this is extremely lmao
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Flesh Forge posted:If you want the implication to be there, you can put it there. Just don't forget who she is and how she got where she is now, which is shunned by everyone, waiting tables to get by, and trying to scratch out a new job in media. Cool now we're on "sorry you were offended" this is chill
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I don't know, I feel like there is a significant distinction between "good I am happy that this person was harmed" and "it is hard for me to feel empathy for someone who only just stopped publicly saying that I and my community need to be ruthlessly marginalized if not wiped out entirely." Basically human empathy is not a suicide pact.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I don't think most high schoolers would really get the underlying criticism in Catch 22, and instead be caught up in the wacky stuff and wonder why the madcap antics concerning chocolate covered cotton and Major Major and the rest are broken up with ghastly bits like Snowden's death and whatnot. i read it in high school and i think i was old enough to at least understand the dark bits and the underlying criticism of the beuracracy of military. like maybe the reading wsn't particularly deep but if high school me, a dip-poo poo, could understand it most high schoolers can
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Whats trs And wignats ?
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The Right Stuff, I think? Not sure about the other one.
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Kurtofan posted:Whats trs white nationalists i think in the context of the image it would be jorp/infowars types that have yet to go full 1488
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Cool now we're on "sorry you were offended" this is chill Oh no, you can go gently caress yourself, I don't give two shits if your sensitive feelings got bruised.
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Chillgamesh posted:white nationalists MPC is pretty 1488, although I guess not fully. The bottom line is there's a big backlash in the extremely online alt-right because they're belatedly realizing that TRS sucks. I think MPC was on the "TRS is trash" wagon longer than the rest.
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Flesh Forge posted:*famous racist and neo nazi propagandist rolls out a cynical re-branding effort to get back into a media career* Ok cool you're just a piece of poo poo
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