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Zzulu posted:Please comrades, we are all comrades here, comrades. No fighting, comrades the moment you get banned, does it matter why?
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gently caress I found this way funnier than I should.
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lol this is amazing. I thought this was the GBS thread so i will post a bit more than a standard "lmao" oops
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I learned from the series if anything goes really wrong at work just claim you were at the toilet when it occurred.
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etalian posted:I learned from the series if anything goes really wrong at work just claim you were at the toilet when it occurred. I swear it's true sir, I spend A LOT of time in there.
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Jesus dude remind me next time I want a nuclear disaster to hook you up with the Jon Stewart era Daily Show. gently caress Trevor Noah.
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Zzulu posted:Unless you want a bullet, comrade And then you can get out of da choppa!
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So did Akimov and Toptunov turning the water valves achieve anything?
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AttitudeAdjuster posted:So did Akimov and Toptunov turning the water valves achieve anything? Ничего Nothing at all
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If you are really into this show and really really bored here is Dyaltovs transcript of events https://www.neimagazine.com/features/featurehow-it-was-an-operator-s-perspective/
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AttitudeAdjuster posted:So did Akimov and Toptunov turning the water valves achieve anything? Nope. All the feed lines had been destroyed when the reactor went up. It's been argued that it may have actually made things worse because that water would either flash to steam and join the radioactive mess in the smoke, or was one of the reasons the basements were flooded
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SocketWrench posted:Nope. All the feed lines had been destroyed when the reactor went up. It's been argued that it may have actually made things worse because that water would either flash to steam and join the radioactive mess in the smoke, or was one of the reasons the basements were flooded The Chernobyl visitor center has a post-event model. Screenshot of the reactor area:  The mechanical stress from the explosion/water vaporization event severed all the coolant feedlines. The force was also so massive the whole control rod/fuel rod assembly got partially shot out of the main containment chamber and rotated 90 degrees.
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etalian posted:The Chernobyl visitor center has a post-event model. I've seen that model before. It is very impressive. It's not accurate though, there's no Wish Granter
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I actually re-downloaded call of chernobyl and started as a monolith soldier just to remind myself what their model of the sarcophagus was like. Who knew there was a ladder going up the inside of the reactor itself all this time!!1 At least i can now recognise what all those little oblong bricks with circular holes are
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They should make miniseries depicting the battles of Somme and Passchendaele, some truly man made horror shows, long before radiation poisoning was cool.
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BigglesSWE posted:They should make miniseries depicting the battles of Somme and Passchendaele, some truly man made horror shows, long before radiation poisoning was cool. I dunno how they'll top The Trench or Passchendaele. poo poo's pretty brutal and depressing ANZACS was amazing SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jun 8, 2019 |
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There’s plenty of angles one could approach those trench warfare slaughterhouses; the profiteering of the munition factories, for instance.
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For those who're interested, I put together a slightly more detailed explanation of the reactor physics for the real nerds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3d3rzFTrLg
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BigglesSWE posted:They should make miniseries depicting the battles of Somme and Passchendaele, some truly man made horror shows, long before radiation poisoning was cool. They did https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_World_War_(TV_series)
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If anyone wants more of "government bureaucracy responding to a nuclear disaster", Shin Godzilla (2016) is a great watch. Many similar beats like denying the seriousness of the problem until it becomes completely impossible to downplay, but then on the other hand some great contrasts ("Sir, our forces spotted this one old geezer still trying to get out of the evacuation zone!" "Oh no! Call off the attack!")
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Yes, Shin is very, very good and probably the best Fukushima movie you'll ever watch.
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Mantis42 posted:Yes, Shin is very, very good and probably the best Fukushima movie you'll ever watch. It's also made by the guy that made evangelion so the music is just the drums from the start of the angel battle song looped over and over and that is extremely funny.
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thirding/fourthing/etc. that, despite being a godzilla movie, shin godzilla is the work that most closely reminded me of chernobyl
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illectro posted:For those who're interested, I put together a slightly more detailed explanation of the reactor physics for the real nerds: Thanks this is a really great video explaining the sequence of events and also terms such as Xeon poisoning.
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i dont quite get how peoples eyes and brains still functioned after looking into the core/being close to it, specically the guys that guy interviewed when they were in the hospital a couple days later. is it because brain/eye cells don't divide that often and dont go through mitosis?
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KoRMaK posted:i dont quite get how peoples eyes and brains still functioned after looking into the core/being close to it, specically the guys that guy interviewed when they were in the hospital a couple days later. is it because brain/eye cells don't divide that often and dont go through mitosis? that is my understanding yeah. Your nerves don't regenerate that often either so while you are a barely functioning organ sack you are still in massive pain!
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illectro posted:For those who're interested, I put together a slightly more detailed explanation of the reactor physics for the real nerds: Holy poo poo, I watch your videos religiously. Thanks for teaching me how to This video is also great.
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KoRMaK posted:i dont quite get how peoples eyes and brains still functioned after looking into the core/being close to it, specically the guys that guy interviewed when they were in the hospital a couple days later. is it because brain/eye cells don't divide that often and dont go through mitosis? Well it's more because acute radiation poisoning is sort of snowballing die-off effect for every type of cell.
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KoRMaK posted:i dont quite get how peoples eyes and brains still functioned after looking into the core/being close to it, specically the guys that guy interviewed when they were in the hospital a couple days later. is it because brain/eye cells don't divide that often and dont go through mitosis? In order for radiation to kill off functioning cells directly it needs to be insanely strong. Alpha radiation would be better at that, but it cannot penetrate the skin, let alone the skull. Same goes for beta radiation, though there some damage might be done to the eye itself, which however isn't that bad, as the working nerves behind it are way deeper in the head. Gamma radiation that can penetrate all of this, is comparably weak and thus you need insane dosages for it to actually cause direct damage to the cell that it cannot repair either. The radiation even above the reactor would not be strong enough to do that, barely any common source of radiation would be, unless you are there for way too long in which case the other symptoms of radiation sickness or even radiation burns develop anyways. It damage or even destroy the DNA sequence though, which however you will not notice until the cell tries to go into mitosis. In order for DNA being this destroyed that it triggers auto-kill of the cell there, again, needs to be insane amounts of radiation. Additionally, big parts of the brain barely ever, some even never, regenerate. Many neurons, especially in the brain, last for a lifetime (which is why areal cell death like during a stroke is so bad and permanent), so the damage done to the DNA is not a cause for concern. Radiation is in general not just some physical power that kills you, it functions on many, many different levels and causes a plethora of effects in the body, which is why we can use it in medicine, too, to do useful things, like making the insides visible using beta plus radiation or x-rays. That's why some people who took high dosages at Chernobyl lived for a good time and never had a big problem, while others suffered the most horrible death imaginable.
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