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Space Fish posted:Gotta love Mags Visaggio in the threads, defending Cain with a good ol' one-two of "well it didn't offend ME" and "I didn't say she was perfect." i continually hate that mags is The Trans Creator because shes problematic as gently caress
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Piell posted:Yeah they're real dumb Also, the "WWJD? Light them on fire and send them to hell" is a Daniel Tosh joke. So I'm surprised they're not adding copyright infringement.
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https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1137413047792877568 "You were a computer scientist where is your research why are you not STEMming this very moment furthermore I think"
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You guys want to know how easy it is to be in MENSA? They interviewed ME in 1996.
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Mensa just wants those sweet membership dues.
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http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=10172005
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site posted:i continually hate that mags is The Trans Creator because shes problematic as gently caress oh no, i thought she was good
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Yeah Chelsea Cain pretty much showed her true colors after people received her Image book poorly. Sucks because Mockingbird was fun but she's lovely and very petty. I'm glad now she got her Vision book yanked.
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Jedit posted:I still have plenty of Nick Spencer on the shelf, and I'll buy more Bedlam if they relaunch it as I hear is planned. Death of the author is your friend. Sorry you like lovely knock off Hickman
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TheHan posted:https://twitter.com/TEANTACLES/status/1137336739582922752 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ28FcRePAo
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Something a little different. https://twitter.com/KurtBusiek/status/1137436452684324864
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poor chelsea got criticized over her terf-y work, break out the waterworks  https://twitter.com/ChelseaCain/status/1137523160750759936
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That reply is lovely. Not surprised.
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IDK I feel like "my fee fees" Is basically half of twitter? and apparently like 1/10th of the american courts system.
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"We," huh?
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Dawgstar posted:Something a little different. Slightly off topic but what person, who is not some old industry contact who feels sorry for him, would give Rob Liefeld money in 2019?
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Ignoring the way he handled his Kickstarter, I would. I bought Major X because of the promise of Liefeld art. I love that stuff.
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site posted:poor chelsea got criticized over her terf-y work, break out the waterworks The thing is, these aren't even really that "painful." (from an outside view) The tweets are borderline constructive criticism. They say what they enjoyed and where they thought the book fell short. I'm sure there's plenty of dumb abuse coming from the right about Man-Eaters, but no, the most incisive tweets you can take and use in your book are the ones that acknowledge the existence of gender binaries and transpeople. Like, what the gently caress.
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I sort of wonder to what extent the heaps of abuse foisted on her by comicsgate assholes during Mockingbird's run broke her ability to handle criticism via Twitter.
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howe_sam posted:I sort of wonder to what extent the heaps of abuse foisted on her by comicsgate assholes during Mockingbird's run broke her ability to handle criticism via Twitter. I don't think that's an excuse-- if it was every trans person who has ever existed on social media would have a blank check to be an rear end in a top hat. If she's become somewhat justifiably wary of taking criticism in good faith prima facie or w/e that's one thing, but her behavior isn't just defensive-- it's self-absorbed, self-righteous, and oblivious. It's absolutely textbook for a kind of white liberalism that centers the placid experience of moral rectitude above the actual needs and desires of marginalized people.
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howe_sam posted:I sort of wonder to what extent the heaps of abuse foisted on her by comicsgate assholes during Mockingbird's run broke her ability to handle criticism via Twitter. I get what you're saying but that doesn't give you carte blanche to be a hateful rear end in a top hat yourself. EDIT: Yes, what Archyduchess said way better than I did before I refreshed..
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Rochallor posted:The thing is, these aren't even really that "painful." (from an outside view) The tweets are borderline constructive criticism. They say what they enjoyed and where they thought the book fell short. I'm sure there's plenty of dumb abuse coming from the right about Man-Eaters, but no, the most incisive tweets you can take and use in your book are the ones that acknowledge the existence of gender binaries and transpeople. Like, what the gently caress. Nothing hurts like criticism that, deep down, you know has a point, but you don't want to acknowledge that point because it would mean that the awesome thing you've been working on really hard for a long time time actually isn't that great and you hosed up. Like, chud abuse isn't fun, but it's hard to take seriously because it's pretty clear that they were never interested in what you're doing and are only there to be dicks. Crit from your intended audience is the sort of thing that can actually sting. Edit: Plus what Archyduchess said. Puppy Time fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Jun 9, 2019 |
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Archyduchess posted:I don't think that's an excuse Oh yeah, sorry, you're right it's not an excuse, and I should've mentioned that up front.
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https://twitter.com/ChelseaCain/status/1137617879191310336 https://twitter.com/ChelseaCain/status/1137620163707035648 Full on panic mode engaged. Avoid reading the replies cause it's mostly TERF shitheads begging her not to apologize
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Her handle makes it sound like she's still in that drat airport. Get off Twitter til you get home!
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ryonguy posted:Slightly off topic but what person, who is not some old industry contact who feels sorry for him, would give Rob Liefeld money in 2019? As shown there are still folks who like him for whatever reason, but the real question is why do you give Liefeld money and expect him to hit a deadline. Refusing to engage with refunds when you also (apparently) claimed to honor them does shoot holes in his 'nicest guy in comics' image.
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Rhyno posted:Why would people think that tagging in other creators would do anything? No idea. I guess because they're all active on twitter, although even the head guys like Erik Larsen or Akira Yoshida don't have anything to do with it and couldn't do more than 'tut tut' Rob. If they cared to do that.
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:https://twitter.com/ChelseaCain/status/1137617879191310336 She said she was listening and trying after crit was posted the first time, but instead she put someones tweet on a concentration camp wall, soooo yeah
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Not anywhere near the most offensive thing about Man-Eaters, but I also just found out that the book has twelve-year-old girls having erected a shrine to Hillary Clinton as some kind of feminist avatar and lmao, that’s just perfect
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Monaghan posted:I've had a lawyer said that they wish that I would pray about the matter and God would surely tell me that me and my client's positions were wrong. . Monaghan Could you write this up for the lawgoon thread? I’m confident they will enjoy it and I can’t do this shitshow justice.
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Discendo Vox posted:Monaghan Could you write this up for the lawgoon thread? I’m confident they will enjoy it and I can’t do this shitshow justice. I bet they'd have fun with it. F'r example: https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1137752140523495424 "'Hearsay' is a word I heard on TV and thus TOTALLY COUNTS ALL THE TIME Mr. Fancy Approved By The Bar Man!"
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Dawgstar posted:I bet they'd have fun with it. F'r example: To be fair the lawyer for Vic is also approved by the Bar somehow.
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