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Do it ironically posted:go vegan friends no
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You better sheath that edge you might cut yourself swinging it around 
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Jun 10, 2019 01:19
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Do it ironically posted:You better sheath that edge you might cut yourself swinging it around  User loses posting privileges for 3 days.
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Jun 10, 2019 01:25
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Lmao looking up user post history how pathetic. I still stand by my statement, it was immoral for him to take Saudi blood money and go there, especially given his religion As it turns out, he concussed himself then knocked himself out, and taker dropped him on his head, I hope the money was worth it to him  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jun 10, 2019 01:30
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This dude is super mad about.... *checks rap sheet* Pro Wrestling? What the gently caress?
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Jun 10, 2019 01:40
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Julius CSAR posted:This dude is super mad about.... *checks rap sheet* Pro Wrestling? What the gently caress? Would a cow being executed via a high-performance wrestling move be more or less humane than the slaughterhouse conditions in the OP?
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Jun 10, 2019 01:44
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EorayMel posted:Would a cow being executed via a high-performance wrestling move be more or less humane than the slaughterhouse conditions in the OP? Is it a cage match?
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Jun 10, 2019 01:46
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Julius CSAR posted:Is it a cage match? A hell in a cell.
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Jun 10, 2019 01:47
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*supplexes a cow into a meat grinder*
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Jun 10, 2019 01:48
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I'm against beating up animals, personally.
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Jun 10, 2019 02:05
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DamnitGannet posted:I'm against beating up animals, personally. harsh, but fair
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Jun 10, 2019 02:07
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DamnitGannet posted:I'm against beating up animals, personally. What if the animal started it? Like let's say it's not delicious or a baby cow. Or maybe it's a LITTLE delicious and or fairly young but the animal CLEARLY started the fight and you are not putting up with that poo poo again.
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Jun 10, 2019 02:13
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The slaughterhouse near me has calming music and poo poo to try and keep the cows super chill before their demise. They taste really good too so it probably works.
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Jun 10, 2019 02:17
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What if they still beat up the baby animals, but it was only for, say, an hour a day? Like you could just go ham and wail on 'em as much as you wanted, but for the rest of the day you have to be super duper nice to them and give them cuddles and snacks? Not a perfect solution, but it's something!
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DamnitGannet posted:I'm against beating up animals, personally. It's called tenderizing.
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Jun 10, 2019 02:21
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Mr. Bones posted:What if they still beat up the baby animals, but it was only for, say, an hour a day? Like you could just go ham and wail on 'em as much as you wanted, but for the rest of the day you have to be super duper nice to them and give them cuddles and snacks? Only if you take the beatings for the other 23 hours.
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Jun 10, 2019 02:22
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Burt Sexual posted:Only if you take the beatings for the other 23 hours. Sounds great to me! There, see what happens when we all work together and compromise? Everybody wins!
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Jun 10, 2019 03:35
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I built one of these once but it was like a massive toilet where I could flush the cows into a pitfall trap to cull them and harvest all the beef/leather e: then I built one for villagers https://i.imgur.com/JhEQBZx.mp4
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Jun 10, 2019 11:23
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Which is worse, brutalising the animal, or killing it? Would it be better to brutalise it and leave it alive, or kill it without brutalising it at all? Would you rather be dead and clean, or alive with crippled legs? Surely killing the brutalised animal makes it's day worse and not better? All animal farming is horrific both fundamentally and in practice, is what I'm getting at. That this feels worse, is neither here nor there; the same feeling that differentiates killing a cow and a dog.
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Jun 10, 2019 11:51
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*stunned calf, hanging from hooks through it's ankles, vomiting blood, exclusively because people find it's corpse pleasurable to consume, but also insist that the entire existence of the resource be cost-effective* At least they didn't kick me on the way in!
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Jun 10, 2019 11:55
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TheMaskedUgly posted:Which is worse, brutalising the animal, or killing it? you're making a shitload of random assumptions here to try to muddy the issue which makes you look really dishonest by forcing people to accept a bunch of precepts they may not agree with to even engage with you so how about we rewind it a little bit to figure out what those precepts are and they can actually be accepted or rejected on that level - what is your standard for deeming something 'horrific'? is there some platonic ideal where you would be comfortable with animal husbandry? - if not, how do you square this belief with your own genetic history as a predatory ape? would you be more comfortable with wild/hunted animals as a protein source? or are you of the opinion that meat-eating is no longer required for modern humanity? - if there is, is this standard absolutely important or must it be stacked and balanced against other relative priorities? if the latter, which priorities do you see interacting with these and how do you stack them up? - do you judge animal outcomes on a collectivist standard (e.g., what matters most is the survival and health of the species) or an individualist one (e.g., the species is only relevant in the context of the average experience of the individual member of that species) - do you judge human outcomes on the same standard? why or why not? e: i am more than happy to answer these questions myself if you nut up a response yourself but quite frankly i don't think you'll have the balls to engage honestly about this because when you start listing them out you'll slowly realize that the alternatives you're advocating for will be worse for everyone and everything involved. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jun 10, 2019 |
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Jun 10, 2019 19:43
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I think you'll find it much in the same way that I choose not to have children, to spare them from suffering like these animals do, by possibly ever exposing them to these brutal morally absolute and terrible posts.
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Jun 10, 2019 19:54
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Total extinction is the only moral choice hth
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Jun 10, 2019 20:01
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Woden posted:The slaughterhouse near me has calming music and poo poo to try and keep the cows super chill before their demise. I vaguely recall reading like stress hormones make the meat taste less good, so it's best the cows be calm and relaxed or even asleep and the kill comes as a surprise? But maybe that's like an urban legend.
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Jun 10, 2019 20:27
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Some dairy farms are closing in my area because of the popularity of almond/soy milk and lower dairy consumption. The farmers were on the TV news literally crying about it. Cry me a river.
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Jun 10, 2019 20:32
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Ema Nymton posted:Some dairy farms are closing in my area because of the popularity of almond/soy milk and lower dairy consumption. The farmers were on the TV news literally crying about it. Let's assume these farmers, unlike the farmers in the OP, are ethical in their treatment of their dairy herd. What do you think is going to happen to all the cows they own and the families the farms support?
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Jun 10, 2019 20:35
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Big Beef City posted:Let's assume these farmers, unlike the farmers in the OP, are ethical in their treatment of their dairy herd. The cows, newly empowered with class consciousness, will engage in fierce struggle to control the means of production (themselves) and eventually create a utopia of grazing on the newly freed land. These new free cows on the land will be unrestrained by the petty politics and power struggles we are faced with, and will lead simple, contemplative lives in a sort of reverse Animal Farm.
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Jun 10, 2019 20:39
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pseudanonymous posted:I vaguely recall reading like stress hormones make the meat taste less good, so it's best the cows be calm and relaxed or even asleep and the kill comes as a surprise? But maybe that's like an urban legend.
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Jun 10, 2019 20:41
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pseudanonymous posted:The cows, newly empowered with class consciousness, will engage in fierce struggle to control the means of production (themselves) and eventually create a utopia of grazing on the newly freed land. These new free cows on the land will be unrestrained by the petty politics and power struggles we are faced with, and will lead simple, contemplative lives in a sort of reverse Animal Farm. I welcome my new bovine comrades
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Jun 10, 2019 20:47
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That video sure was loving awful. I regret eating meat but don't really know how to cook and have enough stress that making a dietary dive into plant-only makes me feel overwhelmed. Here's a machine for hugging cows: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hug_machine Cheer up, pals.
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Jun 10, 2019 20:49
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dairy cows in particular are treated quite a bit better than meat cows because while stress hormones fouling meat is probably an urban legend, stressed out cows producing less milk is scientific fact. source: owned dairy cattle for 5 years, treating those girls like queens was just good business.
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Jun 10, 2019 21:28
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Coolguye posted:dairy cows in particular are treated quite a bit better than meat cows because while stress hormones fouling meat is probably an urban legend, stressed out cows producing less milk is scientific fact. I don't know for SURE if mammals are the same, but enough anecdotal information tells me it's probable. And I know that when dealing with fish not stressing them prior to death is very important for their flavor, especially in extremely delicate flavored fish and things to be used in sushi and the like. It's not an urban legend, there, so I have sincere doubts that it is elsewhere.
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Jun 10, 2019 21:43
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surely if anything it would be a rural legend
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Jun 10, 2019 21:48
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LordArgh posted:surely if anything it would be a rural legend gently caress
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Jun 10, 2019 22:32
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TheMaskedUgly posted:*stunned calf, hanging from hooks through it's ankles, vomiting blood, exclusively because people find it's corpse pleasurable to consume, but also insist that the entire existence of the resource be cost-effective* Um.. Hm. I loled, but felt bad too? What a quandary.
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Jun 12, 2019 21:29
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so one farm with 5 whole employees abusing animals gets jewel/osco to drop their products, huh? so, what about smithfield, the undisputed king of horrific industrialized animal abuse?
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Jun 12, 2019 22:19
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Spazzle posted:What about the American execution method of decades of wage slavery followed by a retirement where you rapidly spiral into medical debt where you finally off yourself with an opioid overdose? Oooo look at mr moneybags here with his opioids
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Jun 12, 2019 22:34
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i dont give a poo poo about animals
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Do it ironically posted:go vegan friends Counterpoint, meat and dairy taste good.
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