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The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost
As a Christian libertarian, if we replace the government with a benevolent AI I'm just going to ask it "can entropy be reversed?" and tie up all the processing power until Creation begins again.

Checkmate, atheist democracy lovers.

:smug:

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ARACHTION
Mar 10, 2012


Thanks for that post, for what it’s worth, I emailed my mla after reading your post. Really looks like we’re going to have to strike in Sept?

Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

The conservatives are running “He’s just not ready 2.0” anti-Trudeau ads. I just saw one and it had the same people, including the “but he’s got nice hair” guy. Same idea of looking though his resume and at the end a voice over says, with text overlay, “he’s still not ready”.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
It worked so well last time...

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Lol, still not ready to keep doing the job he's had for years.

Meanwhile, human butter pat Andy Scheer? Extremely ready!

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
Cant wait to have gay marriage and abortion recriminalized because the liberals decided to not reform FPTP, the one loving thing everyone voted for Trudeau for (besides weed)

Meanwhile the NDP are toothless and the Greens are going with "not left, not right, forward :smuggo:" as their slogan are you making GBS threads me just what we need another centrist party

I'm not optimistic about this one

EvidenceBasedQuack
Aug 15, 2015

A rock has no detectable opinion about gravity

Pinterest Mom posted:

If the Ontario legislative calendar is federal election-related, I'd expect it has a lot more to do with letting MPP/ministerial staffers take vacation time to help out on federal campaigns. If every PC MPP is able to spare one employee and every minister is able to spare 3 (I have no idea how large staffs are in Ontario), that's something like 150 "free" full time staffers helping out throughout Ontario.

Doesn't it count as elections expenditures or are the limits so high it doesn't matter?

Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

Danaru posted:

Cant wait to have gay marriage and abortion recriminalized because the liberals decided to not reform FPTP, the one loving thing everyone voted for Trudeau for (besides weed)

Meanwhile the NDP are toothless and the Greens are going with "not left, not right, forward :smuggo:" as their slogan are you making GBS threads me just what we need another centrist party

I'm not optimistic about this one
I don’t know anyone who voted for Trudeau because of FPTP reform or weed. I don’t think election reform will be a big issue because I don’t think it matters to most people. Maybe I’m wrong, but outside of this forum I’ve never heard it brought up in discussions about politics or the upcoming election.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

EvidenceBasedQuack posted:

Doesn't it count as elections expenditures or are the limits so high it doesn't matter?

People taking paid vacation time because the office ~coincidentally~ is slow during the federal campaign and then using their vacation to volunteer with a campaign isn't an expense at all, because parliamentary offices don't care what their employees do on their time off and the federal campaign wouldn't have to pay volunteers.

Normy
Jul 1, 2004

Do I Krushchev?


Mr. Apollo posted:

I don’t know anyone who voted for Trudeau because of FPTP reform or weed. I don’t think election reform will be a big issue because I don’t think it matters to most people. Maybe I’m wrong, but outside of this forum I’ve never heard it brought up in discussions about politics or the upcoming election.

Well the NDP is bringing it up again.

https://www.ndp.ca/news/making-every-vote-count-real

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Mr. Apollo posted:

I don’t know anyone who voted for Trudeau because of FPTP reform or weed. I don’t think election reform will be a big issue because I don’t think it matters to most people. Maybe I’m wrong, but outside of this forum I’ve never heard it brought up in discussions about politics or the upcoming election.

Outside of this thread the only canadian politics that I have seen is some "Bye Bye Trudeau" graffiti in the lockers at my gym.

fwiw, I almost voted for him on FPTP reform, but then decided it was a lie and didn't. I am looking forward to telling the Liberal canvasser this fall about how smug I was to not fall for it.

Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

I imagine they would. It’ll be interesting to see if they run any campaign ads on that or try to make it into a big issue considering the Conservatives and Liberals won’t bring it up.

sitchensis
Mar 4, 2009

ocrumsprug posted:

Outside of this thread the only canadian politics that I have seen is some "Bye Bye Trudeau" graffiti in the lockers at my gym.

fwiw, I almost voted for him on FPTP reform, but then decided it was a lie and didn't. I am looking forward to telling the Liberal canvasser this fall about how smug I was to not fall for it.

Jesus man, do we go to the same gym? I've seen this exact graffiti at mine, too.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




sitchensis posted:

Jesus man, do we go to the same gym? I've seen this exact graffiti at mine, too.

Ive seen it in Barrie in the south end where I work on bus stops and park benches. Im going to assume its an online thing from one of the chans.

Birudojin
Oct 7, 2010

WHIRR CLANK
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/government-to-ban-single-use-plastics-by-2021-1.5168386

the article posted:

The Trudeau government will ban single-use plastics as early as 2021, CBC News has learned from a government source.

Plastic straws, cotton swabs, drink stirrers, plates, cutlery and balloon sticks are just some of the single-use plastics that will be banned in Canada, according to the source.



...

Fast-food containers and cups made of expanded polystyrene, which is similar to white styrofoam, will also be banned.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Its a good yet tiny step in the right direction but I bet that is going to get huge backlash from the Conservatives.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

ocrumsprug posted:

Outside of this thread the only canadian politics that I have seen is some "Bye Bye Trudeau" graffiti in the lockers at my gym.

fwiw, I almost voted for him on FPTP reform, but then decided it was a lie and didn't. I am looking forward to telling the Liberal canvasser this fall about how smug I was to not fall for it.

Do you go to a gym inside a CBC news article comment section?

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?

Madkal posted:

Do you go to a gym inside a CBC news article comment section?

It's the Yellow Vest Gym.

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Leofish posted:

It's the Yellow Vest Gym.

I don't know if I like the direction Pokemon is going.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Cotton swabs are plastic?

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




flakeloaf posted:

Cotton swabs are plastic?

You can get ones made out of plastics yes. But my guess is it's referring to q-tips.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

quote:

Q-tips® cotton swabs are made with 100% pure cotton (non-sterile)- all natural materials (unlike some other cotton swab brands). The applicator is made of bonded paper and paperboard which is sustainably sourced and specially manufactured to retain its form and to allow for flexibility and safety in use. Adhesive is used to maintain the attachment of the cotton fiber to the applicator.

:confused:

Anyway single-use plastics are bad and should've been banned in the 80s along with the mcdonalds styrofoam bullshit

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Aside from all the other lovely single-use plastics, I'll be glad to not see those single-use dental floss sticks on the ground all the time. Of all the types of litter those gross me out the most, aside from being part of a massive environmental disaster

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Nothing about bottles, weird but ok.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Bottles, being recyclable, are not single-use plastics.

Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

Furnaceface posted:

You can get ones made out of plastics yes. But my guess is it's referring to q-tips.

flakeloaf posted:

:confused:

Anyway single-use plastics are bad and should've been banned in the 80s along with the mcdonalds styrofoam bullshit
A lot of the non-qtip brand cotton swabs have plastic shafts that the cotton buds are attached to.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Mr. Apollo posted:

A lot of the non-qtip brand cotton swabs have plastic shafts that the cotton buds are attached to.

That's gross, but at least the generic ones I use seem to also use paper shafts.

Kraftwerk
Aug 13, 2011
i do not have 10,000 bircoins, please stop asking

So all the major parties are talking about economic anxiety and living costs as a key topic during this election.
They finally admit Canadians are struggling, that people can’t pay their bills and that the people who still have good jobs might one or two be one or two bumps away from destitution.

The solution?
Differing opinions on boutique tax cuts associated with things like home heating and childcare.
Like that’s going to do loving anything.

How about an infrastructure program that cuts down on traffic and makes public transit more accessible?
How about some kind of urban renewal program to build up affordable housing for working people so 60% of your income isn’t paying for rent?

How about actually providing programs that help Canadians instead of saving them $10 on their heating bill.

It’s insulting. It’s like having a rich grandma who could bail you out of debt and still stay rich but her mindset is still “wow 50 cents is a looooooot of money!”

Either Canadians are too stupid or too passive to demand more or the parties are insulting our intelligence. Why are they all so loving worthless.
See this is why nobody shows up to vote. You’re either preserving the status quo by doing so or dropping the youth vote low enough that the conservatives sneak into a majority with their 35% floor.

Kraftwerk fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Jun 10, 2019

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
Late on Red Deer-chat, but I can confirm that it is poo poo from an rear end, and also the airport/airspace around it is loving terrible and I hate going anywhere near it.

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene
Smh at the lack of respect for gasoline alley

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
New motto for Red Deer:

"Red Deer: At least it's not Didsbury."

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009


Okay but very much also there is a party calling for single-payer pharmacare, 500,000 new affordable housing units in 10 years, large investment in transit, and Some Kind of Child Care Policy (tbd)

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

The first time I went to Red Deer I saw a pick up truck with a "gently caress off, we're full" sticker.

Sums it up, really.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Who do I vote for to get mandated "serving sizes" that are a reasonable fraction of the "package size"

quote:

Serving Size: 1 cup (247g)

Package Size: 450g

Hey mom can I have 58.117% of that can?

NOT UNTIL YOU LEARN ABOUT SIG FIGS YOUNG MAN

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

CRISPYBABY posted:

Smh at the lack of respect for gasoline alley

The new overpass makes gasoline alley much more confusing than it used to be. However, if it means fewer people light up their brakes in the left lane and zag across four lanes at 40 below the speed limit in order to go to the A&W...

Kraftwerk
Aug 13, 2011
i do not have 10,000 bircoins, please stop asking

Pinterest Mom posted:

Okay but very much also there is a party calling for single-payer pharmacare, 500,000 new affordable housing units in 10 years, large investment in transit, and Some Kind of Child Care Policy (tbd)

They’re not going to win.

Even if they do, Toronto’s population goes up by 50,000-76,000 year over year.
You need way more housing than that.

What needs to happen is a fully funded govt run housing initiative and we need way more than 500,000 in a time span lower than 10 years. We’re talking about an ambitious project similar to the one done under British colonial rule in Hong Kong. Then you have to figure out a way to sustain it. You also have to find a way to protect that land from privatization because you know that real-estate will be very valuable and it’s likely that future governments will repeat what Chrétien did to social housing in the 90s. Defunding the program and selling high value real estate for easy points with the fiscal responsibility crowd. Then the program is tarred and feathered for a generation as socialist excess and “failed programs”.

The government housing units need to cut into developer business and force them to reduce their prices as well. Good luck doing that. The price tag will make voters look the other way. If it doesn’t the political pressure and lobbying by developers will. They’ll launch media campaigns telling you how safe neighbourhoods and good city blocks will be turned into “the projects” Los Angeles style.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Fair warning, it's a twitter thread

https://twitter.com/jpags/status/1138051145677594624

Follow along with the white knuckle action as we determine whether Justice Belobaba made an error when striking down Bill 5. Will Toronto have to pay the Province's legal fees for trying to fight halving city council in the middle of an election? Will wards larger than most Canadian cities be the new normal?

You paid for the whole seat, but you'll only need the edge!

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888

Kraftwerk posted:

They’re not going to win.

Even if they do, Toronto’s population goes up by 50,000-76,000 year over year.
You need way more housing than that.

What needs to happen is a fully funded govt run housing initiative and we need way more than 500,000 in a time span lower than 10 years. We’re talking about an ambitious project similar to the one done under British colonial rule in Hong Kong. Then you have to figure out a way to sustain it. You also have to find a way to protect that land from privatization because you know that real-estate will be very valuable and it’s likely that future governments will repeat what Chrétien did to social housing in the 90s. Defunding the program and selling high value real estate for easy points with the fiscal responsibility crowd. Then the program is tarred and feathered for a generation as socialist excess and “failed programs”.

The government housing units need to cut into developer business and force them to reduce their prices as well. Good luck doing that. The price tag will make voters look the other way. If it doesn’t the political pressure and lobbying by developers will. They’ll launch media campaigns telling you how safe neighbourhoods and good city blocks will be turned into “the projects” Los Angeles style.

If we had some kind of basic income maybe there wouldn't be so many people stuck in Toronto and would spread out to other cities. I don't think there's any way to plan for that kind of growth. I don't really see any other solution for the kinds of economic changes that are happening. Everything is just going to keep getting worse if we keep ignoring all the job losses due to automation.

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

MA-Horus posted:

Nothing about bottles, weird but ok.

You'd think that would be low hanging fruit, but I guess there is the counter argument that plastic uses less fuel to truck cross-country than glass or aluminum.

Personally I'm hoping to see cigarette filters banned. Given their persistence in the environment they must be plastic. People should enjoy their murder sticks the way nature intended.


PT6A posted:

New motto for Red Deer:

"Red Deer: At least it's not Didsbury."

There's a Red Deer tourist souvenir in my mother's effects. It's going to be hard to look at it again.

Wistful of Dollars posted:

The first time I went to Red Deer I saw a pick up truck with a "gently caress off, we're full" sticker.

Sums it up, really.

That's it, I'm burning it.

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flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Hexigrammus posted:

Personally I'm hoping to see cigarette filters banned. Given their persistence in the environment they must be plastic. People should enjoy their murder sticks the way nature intended.

I was surprised to learn that they are mostly plant fiber; nothing eats them for the same reason nothing eats tobacco leaves.

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