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Barudak posted:Does how a games made not have an influence on its good or badness? in the end, not really, because its just a game, which is one of the more inconsequential purchases somebody can make in the grand scheme of things.
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Jun 10, 2019 06:53
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Oops I mean wait until the game is like 1-3 years old and scoop it up for cheap so you don't directly contribute to the immediate sales numbers that are relevant to the publisher and get all the DLC and patches included for like 10 bucks at most There absolutely is going to be DLC for any game you feel like doing this for on moral grounds
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Jun 10, 2019 06:54
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lol so apparently a fully digitized version of Keanu Reeves is in Cyberpunk 2077, aren't celebrity tie-ins almost always a kiss of death for video games?
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Jun 10, 2019 07:01
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signalnoise posted:Oops I mean wait until the game is like 1-3 years old and scoop it up for cheap so you don't directly contribute to the immediate sales numbers that are relevant to the publisher and get all the DLC and patches included for like 10 bucks at most This is just a good idea in general, you dodge SO MUCH overhyped dreck.
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QuarkJets posted:lol so apparently a fully digitized version of Keanu Reeves is in Cyberpunk 2077, aren't celebrity tie-ins almost always a kiss of death for video games? Maybe 20 years ago. People today slurp that poo poo up.
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Jun 10, 2019 07:36
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QuarkJets posted:lol so apparently a fully digitized version of Keanu Reeves is in Cyberpunk 2077, aren't celebrity tie-ins almost always a kiss of death for video games? Clancy Brown and Lance Henriksen fuckin owned in Detroit, but then they own in literally everything they do.
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Jun 10, 2019 09:44
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"Treating employees badly" has a different meaning across industries, CDPR folk are still highly paid (adjusting for the cost of living in EE) computer touchers with high job satisfaction despite the numerous crunch periods. I know this is making light of serious work-life balance problems people have reported, but Amazon warehouse staffers would kill to have problems like this. Maybe get the preorder with Prime delivery to offset the crime.
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Jun 10, 2019 11:15
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Jun 10, 2019 11:18
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Quote-Unquote posted:Clancy Brown and Lance Henriksen fuckin owned in Detroit, but then they own in literally everything they do. Woah, I was not aware of this
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Jun 10, 2019 11:37
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poverty goat posted:lol at the goons tripping over themselves to denounce the game of the year of 2020 I think you hallucinated that?
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Jun 10, 2019 11:37
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Chomp8645 posted:My unpopular opinion is that you should buy video games you think are good and not buy video games you think are bad. It's a much better system than futile attempts to save the world through Woke Purchasing Techniques (sponsored by Amazon Prime). I like when people use "being woke" as an insult, it really makes it easy to ID who is a lovely person. Like they've figured out using "SJW" is too obvious and so have moved on. No one here is trying to save the world, we just don't pretend our purchases are completely divorced from how companies behave to make ourselves feel better about being selfish. As far as the Witcher game goes I like my games less talky more stabby. In fact I'm so sick of games that drag their games out with anything but game play. Travel, lovely UIs, "setup" time etc. Just let me play your loving game and stop trying to pad your time played metric. I also don't appreciate the two emailed ads I got for Cyberpunk from Steam and GOG.
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Jun 10, 2019 15:13
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Duck and Cover posted:No one here is trying to save the world, we just don't pretend our purchases are completely divorced from how companies behave to make ourselves feel better about being selfish. Honestly I agree that this is a good thing to do. But when people make their stands in the dumbest places possible I'm gonna mock them. Dumping products like Dungeons & Dragons because one designer was bad on twitter, or CD Projekt Red because the Polish computer touchers are working too many hours is ok. But if you dump them for those slights while still believing your Amazon Prime is just too cool and good to get rid of then you're a loving tool and deserve mockery (not directed at you, but someone in this thread recently). Like it's one thing to go for Activism in Purchasing. But getting up in arms over random entertainment products while completely abiding the gross damage being cause by mega corps like Amazon is peak slactivism and it's lame as hell.
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Jun 10, 2019 15:29
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Chomp8645 posted:Honestly I agree that this is a good thing to do. But when people make their stands in the dumbest places possible I'm gonna mock them. Dumping products like Dungeons & Dragons because one designer was bad on twitter, or CD Projekt Red because the Polish computer touchers are working too many hours is ok. But if you dump them for those slights while still believing your Amazon Prime is just too cool and good to get rid of then you're a loving tool and deserve mockery (not directed at you, but someone in this thread recently). Lol no it was him who said that about Amazon
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Jun 10, 2019 15:31
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Sid Vicious posted:Lol no it was him who said that about Amazon lol I didn't even check, I just assumed it had been someone else because who would stick their flag on that hill. Duck and Cover you're lame as hell lol.
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Jun 10, 2019 15:36
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Duck and Cover posted:I like when people use "being woke" as an insult, it really makes it easy to ID who is a lovely person. Like they've figured out using "SJW" is too obvious and so have moved on. No one here is trying to save the world, we just don't pretend our purchases are completely divorced from how companies behave to make ourselves feel better about being selfish. 
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Jun 10, 2019 15:47
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Duck and Cover posted:As far as the Witcher game goes I like my games less talky more stabby. In fact I'm so sick of games that drag their games out with anything but game play. Travel, lovely UIs, "setup" time etc. Just let me play your loving game and stop trying to pad your time played metric.  the conversations are the gameplay
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Jun 10, 2019 15:57
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Anyone have actual links to the dnd nerd being a neo nazi? That's a serious accusation to throw around with no proof
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Jun 10, 2019 15:59
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I am generally a gameplay above all else guy but the writing and presentation in Witcher 3 are top class.
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Chomp8645 posted:Honestly I agree that this is a good thing to do. But when people make their stands in the dumbest places possible I'm gonna mock them. Dumping products like Dungeons & Dragons because one designer was bad on twitter, or CD Projekt Red because the Polish computer touchers are working too many hours is ok. But if you dump them for those slights while still believing your Amazon Prime is just too cool and good to get rid of then you're a loving tool and deserve mockery (not directed at you, but someone in this thread recently). Things aren't generally all or nothing and people who perpetuate that are doing harm. Chomp8645 posted:lol I didn't even check, I just assumed it had been someone else because who would stick their flag on that hill. I think you should try reading the the discussion before jumping in to call people lame, or up in arms. Like how is that productive at all? I'm guilty of it too from time to time, but at least I feel foolish when my skimming misinterpreted something. Oh poo poo guess being a hypocrite makes what's being said wrong! I should just pretend to be perfect. Ruffian Price posted:
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Jun 10, 2019 16:16
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Duck and Cover posted:Things aren't generally all or nothing and people who perpetuate that are doing harm. No but you should probably not support the worst loving company on the planet and then complain about computer programmers having to work too many hours lmao
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Jun 10, 2019 16:18
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Sid Vicious posted:No but you should probably not support the worst loving company on the planet and then complain about computer programmers having to work too many hours lmao I can and I did. Bad thing x does not make bad thing y not bad.
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Jun 10, 2019 16:21
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Duck and Cover posted:I can and I did. And it is why people are calling you a loving idiot hth
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Jun 10, 2019 16:22
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Sid Vicious posted:And it is why people are calling you a loving idiot hth Oh I don't have to feel bad about my bad actions cause the guy telling me also does bad things. I mean surely we can't both be doing things that are bad. Give me a break. I'm not perfect, I don't expect people to be. I'm going to bow out here, it's gotten too off topic and I have somewhere to be. (I know it's rare but I do sometimes leave the house).
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Jun 10, 2019 16:36
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You should absolutely never pay full price for a game that can afford to advertise itself on television
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Jun 10, 2019 16:36
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I support BDS and that's why I don't buy Sabra hummus a company 50% owned by Pepsi/Frito-Lay -posted from my Macbook Pro running on an Israeli-designed processor
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Jun 10, 2019 16:37
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Duck and Cover posted:Oh I don't have to feel bad about my bad actions cause the guy telling me also does bad things. I mean surely we can't both be doing things that are bad. Give me a break. I'm not perfect, I don't expect people to be. I'm going to bow out here, it's gotten too off topic and I have somewhere to be. (I know it's rare but I do sometimes leave the house). You're retarded lol
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Jun 10, 2019 16:39
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Sid Vicious posted:No but you should probably not support the worst loving company on the planet and then complain about computer programmers having to work too many hours lmao But not buying a video game (one he didn't sound interested in in the first place) is Activism Without Sacrifice. Not using Amazon would entail some small amount of personal inconvenience or extra expense. That just won't do! Like honestly it annoys me that this bozo thinks I'm a cynical, selfish consumer because I don't write off entertainment products over twitter controversies. I'm actually a fairly conscientious consumer. I don't shop Amazon. I knowingly and willingly spend more money for the same products elsewhere because I know Amazon is bad for society as a whole. When I go to a physical store and find something I want, I buy it there. I don't use them as a showroom and then turn around to find it cheaper online like so many people because I know this destroys local business. I could go on. What I don't do is arbitrarily write off random products when anyone associated with it says something bad. Not only is it ridiculous, but it's pointless. Every large company has poo poo heads or racists working for it somewhere. If it's the official company position or least some head honcho doing it then ok, that's a problem (and no, one member of a large design team is not a key position). But otherwise it's just background noise. Every time you go out and buy a burger there is a probably a racist, a sex offender, or some other poo poo head involved in that process, you just didn't see them post on twitter about it. Switching from Burger Place A to Burger Place B because you know about the douchebag at A but not about the one at B doesn't do anything but make you feel good without actually sacrificing anything. Just the same as switching from D&D to Pathfinder because you saw one rear end in a top hat out of hundreds of employees at Wizards of the Coast make bad posts on twitter. And to be clear I don't think my Minor Good Shopping Practices make me some hero of the proletariat or something. I don't expect praise for it, I just do it because it seems right. Meme Poker Party fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Jun 10, 2019 |
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When Steam games go on sale, do the developers get a smaller cut proportional to the discount? I do sometimes feel bad when an indie game I was on the fence about buying goes on some crazy sale and I end up paying $10 for a $40 game.
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Jun 10, 2019 16:52
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Snow Cone Capone posted:When Steam games go on sale, do the developers get a smaller cut proportional to the discount? I do sometimes feel bad when an indie game I was on the fence about buying goes on some crazy sale and I end up paying $10 for a $40 game. They get a percentage rate. Sales are an important way to generate revenue and how most games get attention and make money.
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Scolding people about what games they should and shouldn't buy is for sad hangers on that wish they were part of the industry and feel important/involved by being annoying about it on Twitter and the internet. Tbh I'd love to see how many actually even follow through with their boycotts. Game devs deserve a good work/life balance as much as everyone else and they should probably unionize (which looks like it will likely happen sooner than later) but of all the things to rail over ethical consumption about, this seems extremely low on the list. And if it's something that bothers you that much, just don't buy it. But don't bother other people about it.
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veni veni veni posted:Scolding people about what games they should and shouldn't buy is for sad hangers on that wish they were part of the industry and feel important/involved by being annoying about it on Twitter and the internet. Tbh I'd love to see how many actually even follow through with their boycotts. Omg I agree with you on something what the gently caress!
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video game programmers don't deserve any special consideration. if they wanted a better work/life balance they could get into coding corporate banking software. they made their bed, let them lie in it 
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Snow Cone Capone posted:When Steam games go on sale, do the developers get a smaller cut proportional to the discount? I do sometimes feel bad when an indie game I was on the fence about buying goes on some crazy sale and I end up paying $10 for a $40 game. A pal of mine has a game on Steam and when it goes on sale he makes like a quarter of the money but sells 10 times more copies, so he's pretty chill about it, I wouldn't feel bad
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Jun 10, 2019 17:11
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Going to boycott Boy-Cot brand cots, the cots made for boys. Are you a boy? Need someplace uncomfortable to sleep? Then try a cot from Boy-Cots. The only cot that's boy approved. (Attempted use of boy-cots by girls may result in injury, death, or birth defects. Use at own risk)
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Sodomy Hussein posted:They get a percentage rate. Pricing a game so that the actual price you want is somewhere between 50-75% off seems like a pretty good strategy.
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Jun 10, 2019 17:24
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The new Battletoads look like poo poo. And it looks like a bad game. The old Battletoads looked awesome. It may have been the best looking NES game. And it was a great game. It was just hard as balls.
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peter gabriel posted:A pal of mine has a game on Steam and when it goes on sale he makes like a quarter of the money but sells 10 times more copies, so he's pretty chill about it, I wouldn't feel bad if thats the case he put the wrong price on his game. if you can make more profit by lowing your price and getting more customers you should do that, its economics 101. especially with something like software, where there is no manufacturing/shipping costs.
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Rutibex posted:if thats the case he put the wrong price on his game. if you can make more profit by lowing your price and getting more customers you should do that, its economics 101. especially with something like software, where there is no manufacturing/shipping costs. Not necessarily, more people will buy it if its temporarily at that price than if that was just the normal price. I mean, aren't half of steam purchases people buying something because its on a crazy deal and then never playing it?
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Rutibex posted:if thats the case he put the wrong price on his game. if you can make more profit by lowing your price and getting more customers you should do that, its economics 101. especially with something like software, where there is no manufacturing/shipping costs. He's my pal, so I can't say this to him, but it is a niche game that isn't exactly amazing, so I think that's why, he's not unaware of this I think as it is his first game, and he's done a great job considering that, but yeah. Once it dips into impulse buy pricing he benefits
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