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^^That explains it. But voting in secret by closed ballot.... a form of "expression"? If it isn't, would that mean it's legal to compel people to vote a certain way in a city council race? Old and busted: Lower ATM fees New and great: Lower cell phone bills flakeloaf fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Jun 10, 2019 |
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NDP has also come out proposing a mixed member proportional electoral system. Seems to be getting less publicity than cutting cell phone bills.
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If I were NDP leader my telecoms proposal would be to establish a crown corporation national telecomms company to ruthlessly drive prices down through competition, thus also proving that the public sector can be far more efficient than private businesses because it can be designed from top to bottom to maximize benefit for the customer instead of maximizing profit.
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Jun 10, 2019 18:31
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Why is this bad? Canada has one of the most oligopolistic telecom sectors in the world, and whoever runs the government absolutely should be pushing to increase competition and protect consumers from anticompetitive behavior by incumbents. Maybe talking about lowering cell phone bills sounds like facile appeal to low-info voters, but Canada sorely needs a big push to increase competition across its economy, and anyone looking to get your vote should be saying these kinds of things. Edit: And yes, Canada's financial sector is also extraordinarily oligopolistic.
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Jun 10, 2019 18:33
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Kraftwerk posted:That’s not what I said and you know it. Let me preface this with saying I think the minimum wage should be something like 25 an hour. Is it even possible in the modern government/political system the free world runs on today to have a guaranteed income that tops everyone up to atleast 60k a year? I mean it sounds amazing on paper but I am pretty sure if you did the math on that it, the single program would be more than our entire government budget. Unless you believe in our lifetime you will see some kind of super-rich, super-high tax that hasn't been done since pre-war days ( ie 75%-90% of all income earned above 1 or 10 million per year)
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Mr. Apollo posted:The conservatives are running “He’s just not ready 2.0” anti-Trudeau ads. I just saw one and it had the same people, including the “but he’s got nice hair” guy. Same idea of looking though his resume and at the end a voice over says, with text overlay, “he’s still not ready”. Turns out it's not "the conservatives" but an ~independent~ third-party group (not subject to any restrictions on fundraising or spending until June 30th) named "shaping Canada's future" https://twitter.com/shapingcanada/status/1137814941069484032 (the unions also have a group running attack ads on Scheer) https://twitter.com/EngageCanada/status/1132983675178459139 Pinterest Mom fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jun 10, 2019 |
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Jun 10, 2019 18:48
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vyelkin posted:If I were NDP leader my telecoms proposal would be to establish a crown corporation national telecomms company to ruthlessly drive prices down through competition, thus also proving that the public sector can be far more efficient than private businesses because it can be designed from top to bottom to maximize benefit for the customer instead of maximizing profit. Although our former crown corporation telecom companies were even more broadly hated than their private successors... I think the root of telecom rage is basically tax rage, but for people who don't pay taxes yet. $10/mo of excess profits... Save us Jagmeet! James Baud fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jun 10, 2019 |
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Jun 10, 2019 19:24
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flakeloaf posted:"Because women spend more time cleaning their kids" What about all us daddy daycare types who shoulder 50%+1 of the household chores? Why does he slight us so 
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Jun 10, 2019 19:34
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There were some people collecting donations to help fund long-term blockades and pipeline protests by my place, they were getting a lot of donations and support from people. What they also told me, when the conversation turned a little radical, is that they've also gotten tons of "joking" offers to hook them up with explosives, thermite, spike strips, and all manners or supplies needed for direct action against pipeline construction. I absolutely do not think it will be possible for Justin to build his pipeline without violence. The entire construction site will need to be militarized, people will die fighting it. I imagine the people taking the brunt of state violence and murder will be first nation's protesters, like usual. We're going to see mass arrests and violation of rights on a scale that makes g20 look like due-process was followed. Imagine a canada in a few years where Albertan volunteer militia's backed up by PMC's hired by the pipeline patrol BC in up-armoured F150's detaining or shooting suspected "economic terrorists".
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Nationalize the telcos you coward! 
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IMO concerns about UBI are valid but shouldn't be taken as arguments against it, merely that if the establishment starts looking really eager about UBI you know they're going to strings attached that make it open for exploitation and poo poo. UBI good but when wealthy businessmen start saying UBI good, you know that they're going to try to implement it in a lovely way.
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Argas posted:IMO concerns about UBI are valid but shouldn't be taken as arguments against it, merely that if the establishment starts looking really eager about UBI you know they're going to strings attached that make it open for exploitation and poo poo. UBI good but when wealthy businessmen start saying UBI good, you know that they're going to try to implement it in a lovely way. Yes. 100% this. My posts about the topic are more an examination and criticism of the framework and expectations. It’s too easy to just throw a Means tested UBI at the public and piss everyone off including the people it’s supposed to help. The liberal party in particular is famous for bungling these kinds of proposals and ruining the reputation of the policy so that no sane implementation becomes politically popular in a lifetime. So with rising demand for UBI, how do you get the government to implement it properly?
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In case it wasn't obvious, there has been an uptick in rich people going "UBI...good?" in recent years.
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ARACHTION posted:Thanks for that post, for what it’s worth, I emailed my mla after reading your post. Really looks like we’re going to have to strike in Sept? Even if we move in to job action, it'll start small before ramping up. Work-to-rule and rotating strikes. What stood out to me when I met my MLA was how oblivious they were to the BCTFs concerns, despite all the noise we've been making online. To their credit, once our message started getting through, they kept us behind to ask more in-depth questions and have an informal discussion. I didn't get the impression that we were merely being humored. This was a very good reminder that Twitter isn't real life, and that conflating social media signal boosting with "real" political action is distorting if not self-defeating. Retweets and likes are no substitute for meeting and conversing in the flesh.
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Just fuckin' raise taxes on the rich and pay the teachers what they need. Raise the empty home tax to 50% and pay for affordable housing. Just tax your problems to death.
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Baronjutter posted:Just fuckin' raise taxes on the rich and pay the teachers what they need. Raise the empty home tax to 50% and pay for affordable housing. Just tax your problems to death. But the JOB CREATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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tagesschau posted:I'm not aware of a finding by any court (other than the Ontario Superior Court of Justice in this very case) that voting is an expressive act covered by 2(b). It's far from clear that freedom of expression even comes into play here. And yet the Province's counsel chose to make that argument.
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Jun 10, 2019 22:27
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K-12 is conspicuously absent as one of the predefined options on the BC NDP's annual survey asking supporters what we want the government to prioritize. I used the "other" and comment boxes to say they should implement teachers' recommendations on class size and composition. I have also contacted my MLA for whatever good that does.
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Jun 10, 2019 22:29
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THC posted:K-12 is conspicuously absent as one of the predefined options on the BC NDP's annual survey asking supporters what we want the government to prioritize. I used the "other" and comment boxes to say they should implement teachers' recommendations on class size and composition. I have also contacted my MLA for whatever good that does. Thank you for reminding me. BC Goons, please complete this: https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/5053...WwNZEB9A4ujjvnk Feel free to write in education as a concern.
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Baronjutter posted:There were some people collecting donations to help fund long-term blockades and pipeline protests by my place, they were getting a lot of donations and support from people. What they also told me, when the conversation turned a little radical, is that they've also gotten tons of "joking" offers to hook them up with explosives, thermite, spike strips, and all manners or supplies needed for direct action against pipeline construction. It would be cool if anyone cared that much about such politics but when is the last time a Canadian died protesting a pipeline or similar environmental action?
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Baronjutter posted:We're going to see mass arrests and violation of rights on a scale that makes g20 look like due-process was followed. I appreciate the hyperbole, but G20 saw over 1000 people arrested and shoved in makeshift cages over the course of a weekend. I think it's unlikely a pipeline protest is going to top that
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In today's edition of poo poo I didn't know until today: Kiefer Sutherland is Tommy Douglas' grandson. How about that.
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When people voted for Trudeau in 2015 they voted for Social Democracy, and look where we are now.
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Baronjutter posted:Just fuckin' raise taxes on the rich and pay the teachers what they need. Raise the empty home tax to 50% and pay for affordable housing. Just tax your problems to death. I would argue for ending public cash for private schools. A recent Tyee poll said 4/5 BC residents approved of it. Yeah, I know the Tyee is biased, but those are some pretty strong numbers. It was one of Québec Solidaire’s promises during the provincial election. They proposed a 2 year phase out period where schools could choose to fold into existing public districts or decide to go at it alone.
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ARACHTION posted:I would argue for ending public cash for private schools. A recent Tyee poll said 4/5 BC residents approved of it. Yeah, I know the Tyee is biased, but those are some pretty strong numbers. lol I had no idea this was a thing. Yeah that bullshit should end.
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Gotta love the some former Liberal MMP arguing "move right, move right" https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/windsor-mpp-liberal-party-centre-1.5168781 quote:"The party moved too far to the left," said Pupatello about the Liberal party. "That's what people rejected. People started becoming quite annoyed." yeah... that's gotta be the reason.
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zapplez posted:It would be cool if anyone cared that much about such politics but when is the last time a Canadian died protesting a pipeline or similar environmental action? Nobody died in Clayquot Sounds War in the Woods, but over 11,000 people were there for three months. I was there, although I barely remember it. Almost 1000 people were convicted on various trumped up charges in the aftermath. Also nearly 5000 opponents came in to counter-protest, but the social climate was different in '93 so tensions did not escalate. I have equal parts optimism that the pipeline would spark a similarly sized response, and pessimism because the population now is thoroughly castrated against acts of civil disobedience and the pipeline is both distributed in locations as well as largely remote from population centers. Clayquot was easy, there was one road in and out and you could get there from Vancouver in like 5 hours tops. The pipeline presents serious organizational challenges. In the current social climate of increasing radicalization on both sides, fueled by very short attention spans and tempers limiting discourse, driven by social media memes of nebulous purpose, I agree with BJ's analysis. If the pipeline goes ahead, people are going to get shot. Rime fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Jun 10, 2019 |
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Syfe posted:Gotta love the some former Liberal MMP arguing "move right, move right" the government being left wing is when my hydro bills are too high. the higher my hydro bills, the more left wing the government is
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Syfe posted:Gotta love the some former Liberal MMP arguing "move right, move right" Fun fact: Pupatello was the party insiders' favored candidate to take over following Dalton McGuinty and probably the only reason she lost is because of entryism by the Ontario Teachers unions, who were able to sway the convention in favour of their preferred candidate, Kathleen Wynne.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:In today's edition of poo poo I didn't know until today: He even intro'd a video about Douglas' Mouseland speech for the United Food and Commercial Workers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqgOvzUeiAA
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Rime posted:I have equal parts optimism that the pipeline would spark a similarly sized response, and pessimism because the population now is thoroughly castrated against acts of civil disobedience and the pipeline is both distributed in locations as well as largely remote from population centers. Clayquot was easy, there was one road in and out and you could get there from Vancouver in like 5 hours tops. The pipeline presents serious organizational challenges. Never fear, the RCMP is still the police force in BC so there will definitely be pipeline bombings.
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vyelkin posted:If I were NDP leader my telecoms proposal would be to establish a crown corporation national telecomms company to ruthlessly drive prices down through competition, thus also proving that the public sector can be far more efficient than private businesses because it can be designed from top to bottom to maximize benefit for the customer instead of maximizing profit. Something like this?
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sTop oBsTRuCTINg THE pipELinE HorgaN  metro vancouver gas prices fall more than 40 cents from record-breaking may highs
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Self censorship of indirect doxxing material. 
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Jun 11, 2019 00:40
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Oh yeah I forgot to mention that that hardcore conservative Trump loving Ford voting dipshit I work with was all for the plastic ban. Its making me feel like I overlooked some evil stipulation that they hid inside it.
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DariusLikewise posted:From a few pages ago, but I heard a rumour that the province is going to award the contract to Perimeter Aviation which is a subsidiary of Income Exchange Corp which is headed and owned in large part by former Manitoba Premier Gary Filmon Ahahahahah, it always comes back to that motherfucker, doesn't it.
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Loving this elite-stoked secessionism in the west. Confederation is a lot weaker than most think.
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Dreylad posted:who's stoking what now Albexit and Cascadia. Basically dumb idiots being whiny babies and thinking they can create their own resource extraction based conservative utopia.
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