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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/edballs/status/63623585020915713?lang=en

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Zamboni Rodeo
Jul 19, 2007

NEVER play "Lady of Spain" AGAIN!




I just went to his feed and I'm honestly disappointed that's not the only thing he's tweeted.

Roblo
Dec 10, 2007

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

lmao I went to go look up the Ed Miliband bacon sandwich moment because I'd never heard of it and it has its own wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband_bacon_sandwich_photograph



It's hilarious, but also terrifying given it highlights the power of the right wing press. It was a pretty major contributor to him losing.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

Gripweed posted:

That kid didn't have a behavior disorder, he was just terrible.

I'm in the PYF spooky thread and autism came up. Some how, every single goon is autistic, or has an autistic brother, or has an autistic child

Meanwhile, I think I've met a grand total of 3 autistic people in my entire life. Is everyone self diagnosing or what the gently caress is going on? Am I taking crazy pills here? Am I the autistic one???

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


SA goons aren't exactly a representative sample of the general population, and people who post in a specific thread in response to a specific post aren't a representative sample of goons in general.

gey muckle mowser
Aug 5, 2003

Do you know anything about...
witches?



Buglord

ElGroucho posted:

I'm in the PYF spooky thread and autism came up. Some how, every single goon is autistic, or has an autistic brother, or has an autistic child

Meanwhile, I think I've met a grand total of 3 autistic people in my entire life. Is everyone self diagnosing or what the gently caress is going on? Am I taking crazy pills here? Am I the autistic one???

if you meet one person with autism a week, then you've met an autist

if everyone has autism, you're the autist

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

gey muckle mowser posted:

if you meet one person with autism a week, then you've met an autist

if everyone has autism, you're the autist

bummer

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





ElGroucho posted:

I'm in the PYF spooky thread and autism came up. Some how, every single goon is autistic, or has an autistic brother, or has an autistic child

Meanwhile, I think I've met a grand total of 3 autistic people in my entire life. Is everyone self diagnosing or what the gently caress is going on? Am I taking crazy pills here? Am I the autistic one???

This is an interesting question. My son is genuinely autistic, albeit it is mild. We have been to the doctor numerous times and work with specialists to provide the support that he needs. On many occasions I will run into another parent and they will, usually after a bout of bad behaviour from their child, tell me their child is autistic. So, I ask them about the services they are utilizing, if their child has an IEP, if the school is meeting the goals and requirements of the IEP, and so on. At this point it usually becomes quite obvious that their child is not autistic and is just poorly behaved, and it seems like a simple thing to say to deflect any incoming criticism of their (lack of) parenting. If they lead with "My child is on the spectrum" I can almost always guarantee they are not, and it is some sort of self diagnosed escape mechanism. It does seem like something that is often claimed/self-diagnosed, but that is purely anecdotal. Certainly the definition and spectrum of disorder has expanded greatly and is recognized more readily in the last 20 years or so, so perhaps that is what is prompting the current amount of self diagnosing that goes on.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

People think they can read the DSM, check some boxes, and make definitive diagnoses, whereas actual psychiatric dx procedures involve hours of one-on-one interaction between a therapist with hundreds or thousands of hours of clinical experience. And even they get it wrong a bunch.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
I was eating at a restaurant this weekend with my family and was distracted by the family in front of us. I guess the wife had gotten up to go to the restroom and the goon (and I mean disgusting stereotype goon) father was left with their 4 year old. The kids starts just throwing poo poo in the mothers drink, random food, pepper flakes, napkins while the goondad is like "what you doing their sport? making soup, haha?" while half watching some youtube poo poo on his phone.

The wife come back and goddamn, I felt so bad for her. She looked like she was about to cry. I wonder how often she thinks about the fact that she married a man-child and he is probably making their kid in to a junior version of himself.

I bet that dude claims he is on the spectrum and his kid is on the spectrum, and will never ever go get a real diagnosis.

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.



ElGroucho posted:

I was eating at a restaurant this weekend with my family and was distracted by the family in front of us. I guess the wife had gotten up to go to the restroom and the goon (and I mean disgusting stereotype goon) father was left with their 4 year old. The kids starts just throwing poo poo in the mothers drink, random food, pepper flakes, napkins while the goondad is like "what you doing their sport? making soup, haha?" while half watching some youtube poo poo on his phone.

The wife come back and goddamn, I felt so bad for her. She looked like she was about to cry. I wonder how often she thinks about the fact that she married a man-child and he is probably making their kid in to a junior version of himself.

I bet that dude claims he is on the spectrum and his kid is on the spectrum, and will never ever go get a real diagnosis.

The biggest crime here is that you didn't film the travesty. :colbert:

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

The Bananana posted:

The biggest crime here is that you didn't film the travesty. :colbert:

I felt too bad man

I'm a lovely husband, and a bad father, but I wouldn't let my kid gently caress up anyone else's day, especially not my wife

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.



zoux posted:

People think they can read the DSM, check some boxes, and make definitive diagnoses, whereas actual psychiatric dx procedures involve hours of one-on-one interaction between a therapist with hundreds or thousands of hours of clinical experience. And even they get it wrong a bunch.

So what your saying is....

Self-diagnosing using the book ain't much worse than the "get it wrong a bunch" clinically experienced therapist? :thunk:

TheMaskedUgly
Sep 21, 2008

Let's play a different game.

:hai:

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Roblo posted:

It's hilarious, but also terrifying given it highlights the power of the right wing press. It was a pretty major contributor to him losing.

Also the fact that he erected a tombstone to his own political career.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

TheMaskedUgly
Sep 21, 2008

Let's play a different game.
With Asperger's being deprecated; everyone who was using that as a crutch to avoid facing their social inadequacies had to step one up the ladder

Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

💀
I still don't know what autism is really because I've seen fully functioning adults say they got it but then I watch a documentary about autistic children and their parents and they are not in any way functioning people at all. They scream and cry and damage everything and have outbursts and tantrums and generally appear to be ffffuucked unless their parents dedicated their tragic lives to caring for them

No offense to any autisms itt

"but Collapsing Farts, it's a speeeectruuuum"

Yeah well that's what I don't get because it seems like bullshit taht on one end of the spectrum you have something unrecognizable from the other end. Then it just seems like two different diagnoses

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Oct 30, 2009

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It’s easier in many cases to say you have autism or some other mental illness to avoid dealing with the possibility that you are a lovely person or make bad decisions and therefore are not responsible for bad things in your life.


In my case I say that I’m autastic because it sounds similar to fantastic

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Collapsing Farts posted:

I still don't know what autism is really because I've seen fully functioning adults say they got it but then I watch a documentary about autistic children and their parents and they are not in any way functioning people at all. They scream and cry and damage everything and have outbursts and tantrums and generally appear to be ffffuucked unless their parents dedicated their tragic lives to caring for them

No offense to any autisms itt

"but Collapsing Farts, it's a speeeectruuuum"

Yeah well that's what I don't get because it seems like bullshit taht on one end of the spectrum you have something unrecognizable from the other end. Then it just seems like two different diagnoses

U r autism, hth

TheMaskedUgly
Sep 21, 2008

Let's play a different game.

Collapsing Farts posted:

Yeah well that's what I don't get because it seems like bullshit taht on one end of the spectrum you have something unrecognizable from the other end. Then it just seems like two different diagnoses

I guess it's less that it's a spectrum (which is also true) and more that it can present wildly differently among people who are 'comparable' on that spectrum, and the effects vary wildly based on stimulus and the autist's current mood and preparedness. What might provoke mild irritation with planning and preperation, may, the next day, provoke a huge reaction due to non-obvious differences; and may be completely ignored by the 'near worst-case-scenario' autist.

Add to that that it's almost always co-morbid with a half dozen other issues that it's incredibly hard to conclusively point to a specific behaviour and say 'this is because of autism'.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

ElGroucho posted:

I was eating at a restaurant this weekend with my family and was distracted by the family in front of us. I guess the wife had gotten up to go to the restroom and the goon (and I mean disgusting stereotype goon) father was left with their 4 year old. The kids starts just throwing poo poo in the mothers drink, random food, pepper flakes, napkins while the goondad is like "what you doing their sport? making soup, haha?" while half watching some youtube poo poo on his phone.

The wife come back and goddamn, I felt so bad for her. She looked like she was about to cry. I wonder how often she thinks about the fact that she married a man-child and he is probably making their kid in to a junior version of himself.

I bet that dude claims he is on the spectrum and his kid is on the spectrum, and will never ever go get a real diagnosis.

What you doing there sport? Making a solid case for divorce the second you grow up and mommy has an ounce of freedom? haha

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman have a lot to answer for

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


Collapsing Farts posted:

I still don't know what autism is really because I've seen fully functioning adults say they got it but then I watch a documentary about autistic children and their parents and they are not in any way functioning people at all. They scream and cry and damage everything and have outbursts and tantrums and generally appear to be ffffuucked unless their parents dedicated their tragic lives to caring for them

No offense to any autisms itt

"but Collapsing Farts, it's a speeeectruuuum"

Yeah well that's what I don't get because it seems like bullshit taht on one end of the spectrum you have something unrecognizable from the other end. Then it just seems like two different diagnoses

it turns out that trying to quantify "the myriad ways a soft lump of several billion neurons can break" into a couple hundred clean, demarcated categories is a "round peg square hole" sort of situation

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Data Graham posted:

Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman have a lot to answer for

At first I forgot which movie Dustin Hoffman was in and thought you were getting really mad at Cocktail for what it did to drinks.

Which, fair.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

When some people get the flu they just get the sniffles, while others die. It's still the flu regardless.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Collapsing Farts posted:

I still don't know what autism is really because I've seen fully functioning adults say they got it but then I watch a documentary about autistic children and their parents and they are not in any way functioning people at all. They scream and cry and damage everything and have outbursts and tantrums and generally appear to be ffffuucked unless their parents dedicated their tragic lives to caring for them

No offense to any autisms itt

"but Collapsing Farts, it's a speeeectruuuum"

Yeah well that's what I don't get because it seems like bullshit taht on one end of the spectrum you have something unrecognizable from the other end. Then it just seems like two different diagnoses

This is part of the problem with dealing with it as a blanket issue right now. Lots of people who are just a bit socially awkward are "proud aspies" and don't really consider that the far end of the spectrum can have very, very difficult lives and have very different needs

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Collapsing Farts posted:

"but Collapsing Farts, it's a speeeectruuuum"

Yeah well that's what I don't get because it seems like bullshit taht on one end of the spectrum you have something unrecognizable from the other end. Then it just seems like two different diagnoses
That's because it's not a bi-polar (as in, two poles) spectrum with "high" and "low." The vast majority of people, including many autistics and mental health professionals, get that wrong.

The autism spectrum is more of a RADAR graph like this:



or this:



It's entirely possible to cross the "threshold" for autism in enough categories while being functionally normal in others. That's how I could go most of my life without being formally diagnosed until I met some actual bonafide experts, regularly get the "Oh my god you don't look autistic at all I would never have known!" reaction, yet still turbopost on SA for 15 years and be seriously impacted by being socially arrested. It's also why loads of people you wouldn't have thought of as autistic ten years ago (Anthony Hopkins, Dan Akryod, Daryl Hannah) are now being diagnosed and prompting jackasses to go "omg criteria is so loose now."

It's astonishing how loving stupid most people are about this.

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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

theflyingorc posted:

This is part of the problem with dealing with it as a blanket issue right now. Lots of people who are just a bit socially awkward are "proud aspies" and don't really consider that the far end of the spectrum can have very, very difficult lives and have very different needs
Very few autistics like those dudes. To start "aspergers" hasn't been a thing in the US criteria since 2013, and most of us actually involved in the community are well aware of how difficult higher-needs autistics have it.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

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Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

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Aren¨t most dogs gay?

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Airbud has a reputation to live up to.

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


More like AirStud :smugdog:

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/AdamFriedland/status/1137188032921133056?s=19

Sulla Faex
May 14, 2010

No man ever did me so much good, or enemy so much harm, but I repaid him with ENDLESS SHITPOSTING
im whichever form of autism gives u the biggest weiner

Sulla Faex
May 14, 2010

No man ever did me so much good, or enemy so much harm, but I repaid him with ENDLESS SHITPOSTING
forgot to attach a weiner pic

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Sulla Faex posted:

im whichever form of autism gives u the biggest weiner

I'm certain this is the form where you just lie about poo poo online

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Sulla Faex posted:

forgot to attach a weiner pic



I absolutely see the word "unit" in this picture.

Sulla Faex
May 14, 2010

No man ever did me so much good, or enemy so much harm, but I repaid him with ENDLESS SHITPOSTING

The Bloop posted:

I'm certain this is the form where you just lie about poo poo online

you think I would do that to my best friends? just go online and tell whoppers about my weiner??

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theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

mind the walrus posted:

Very few autistics like those dudes. To start "aspergers" hasn't been a thing in the US criteria since 2013, and most of us actually involved in the community are well aware of how difficult higher-needs autistics have it.

Yeah, sorry if it came across as targeting you. I actually deleted a part where I noted that Asperger's isn't a thing anymore.

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