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Zereth posted:I've done attacks which did no damage, but rolled an instant kill crit in Fallout 1 and/or 2. That was the whole conceit of a Fallout 2 LP someone did in Let's Play ages ago. They played as a complete gormless ogre with 1 Luck and exploited all kinds of goofy edge cases to reach 10 in basically every stat, then ran around bare-assed naked and unarmed tanking plasma guns with their face and scoring critical punches that essentially vaporized fully armoured Enclave troopers. IIRC they beat that Horrigan guy, the endboss, by throwing a rock they picked up at the very beginning and scoring an instant-kill critical to the eyes. I wish I could remember the name of that LP. I want to say the main character's name was Tor or Gor or something.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:I used to model, rig, and animate stuff. Made a humanoid with walk, run, jump, climb, crouch, turn, and turn-while-crouching animations. This involved an awful lot of very slowly acting out animations in my apartment so I could track where my body parts were and translate them into poses. i like to imagine leonaro da vinci doin this exact thing in a room covered in quills and sheets of parchment
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Angry Diplomat posted:I wish I could remember the name of that LP. I want to say the main character's name was Tor or Gor or something. https://lparchive.org/Fallout-2/Update%201/
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Angry Diplomat posted:That was the whole conceit of a Fallout 2 LP someone did in Let's Play ages ago. They played as a complete gormless ogre with 1 Luck and exploited all kinds of goofy edge cases to reach 10 in basically every stat, then ran around bare-assed naked and unarmed tanking plasma guns with their face and scoring critical punches that essentially vaporized fully armoured Enclave troopers. IIRC they beat that Horrigan guy, the endboss, by throwing a rock they picked up at the very beginning and scoring an instant-kill critical to the eyes. Also there's a whole two Fallout 2 LPs on the archive, it didn't take me long to Yeah. Okay I guess it was 3 int. But for a Jinxed Punchman you want HIGH luck.
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Jun 10, 2019 22:23
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It's not a glitch but rocking 1 int and screaming ICE CREAM! to get into the executive suites of some building owned
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I forgot LPArchive was a thing! There goes my whole evening. As far as luck, I believe he used some weird feature of the Hubologist cult induction to set it to 10. Really that whole playthrough is just crazy as hell.
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One of the neatest things about the early Fallout games to me (and its spiritual derivative Arcanum) was that they actually had an entire second set of dialogue for low-intelligence characters, sometimes just rewording, but more often actually quite substantially different with different outcomes. That's a degree of dedication to writing your game that you don't see a lot these days, although I suppose the fixation on having everything voice-acted would make that harder. In Arcanum, there was even a not-quite-glitch where you could get stinking dead drunk and lower your int past the treshold for idiot dialogue. I got some real laughs out of reading my own journal entries again through the drunk filter. I recommend it to anyone who liked that game.
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Angry Diplomat posted:I forgot LPArchive was a thing! There goes my whole evening.
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 oh god, browsing LPArchive reminded me of my old, unfinished glitchy exploit run of the legendarily sadistic roguelike IVAN, and lo and behold, the roguelike megathread I posted it in is still up somehow.It lasted four updates before I got busy at work and subsequently lost the saves, and got some great  reactions from the other folks in the megathread. Might be worth a read if you're into that sort of thing.
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moist turtleneck posted:It's not a glitch but rocking 1 int and screaming ICE CREAM! to get into the executive suites of some building owned That's how you get into the third floor of the REPCONN Headquarters in New Vegas.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Really, more games should take the Goldeneye approach to property destruction. Everything explodes. Even filing cabinets and desk chairs. I did that to Deus Ex when they released the creator toolkit. I made everything explosive that it was possible to make explosive - which, as it turns out, was pretty much everything. Chairs, guns (being held by the AI), scraps of paper, birds, most scenery objects, even cactus. Totally ruined the gameplay because any encounter with enemies turned into 20 seconds of the entire world exploding in massive chain reactions, but by god it was fun.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:I did that to Deus Ex when they released the creator toolkit. Oh my God, JC, a bomb!
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Don Gato posted:Oh my God, JC, a bomb! Please.. You can't just say everything is a bomb.. *is handed note* wait what?
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Totally ruined the gameplay What a shame.
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Cardiovorax posted:One of the neatest things about the early Fallout games to me (and its spiritual derivative Arcanum) was that they actually had an entire second set of dialogue for low-intelligence characters, sometimes just rewording, but more often actually quite substantially different with different outcomes. That's a degree of dedication to writing your game that you don't see a lot these days, although I suppose the fixation on having everything voice-acted would make that harder. Another funny little thing if you play a low int character... If you talk to another low int. npc in the game, instead of "uggh hungry" "you me hungry?" dialogue choices, you get (implied) perfect oxford english spoken between the two characters..."uuggh ooh" translates to "Why yes my good sir, I must concede I am quite famished! Shall we parlay together for some afternoon tea?". Little funny touches like that made for some excellent replayability.
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Cardiovorax posted:One of the neatest things about the early Fallout games to me (and its spiritual derivative Arcanum) was that they actually had an entire second set of dialogue for low-intelligence characters, sometimes just rewording, but more often actually quite substantially different with different outcomes. That's a degree of dedication to writing your game that you don't see a lot these days, although I suppose the fixation on having everything voice-acted would make that harder. My favourite thing about arcanum was a very specific interaction you could get right at the start of the game. If you've never played it: the first person you talk to in the game is a guy named Virgil. He's a devout follower of a religion and believes that you are the prophesied reincarnation of the messiah, an elven sorcerer who lived thousands of years ago. Normally, he's very deferential and respectful while trying to explain to you that you are the chosen one. If you play a character with rock-bottom intelligence, he tries to explain it very slowly and simply before getting frustrated and starting to just shout "YOU ARE THE CHOSEN ONE, YOU ARE A POWERFUL WIZARD, COME WITH ME". but the best version is if you start as a half-ogre, who have a huge intelligence penalty, but then max out your int in order to get over the stupid dialogue threshold. He starts out with the idiot dialogue, where he mutters under his breath about your reincarnation being defective and then trying to explain it to you using small words, at which point you interrupt him to ask him why he's talking like that and he gets incredibly flustered about the fact that he's basically just called his own god an idiot.
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Since we're talking about Deus Ex, I'm gonna repost this thing y'all probably didn't know about. https://youtu.be/Hx5LjI0inTc
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cock hero flux posted:but the best version is if you start as a half-ogre, who have a huge intelligence penalty, but then max out your int in order to get over the stupid dialogue threshold. He starts out with the idiot dialogue, where he mutters under his breath about your reincarnation being defective and then trying to explain it to you using small words, at which point you interrupt him to ask him why he's talking like that and he gets incredibly flustered about the fact that he's basically just called his own god an idiot.  Arcanum was such a wonderful game. I spent a hundred hours playing it, back in the day, and I know for a fact that I still haven't seen everything it has to offer. It's one of those games where you can just tell from beginning to end that it was made by people who loved what they were doing.
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Arcanum has the supremely offensive anti-semitic questline that's so over-the-top about 'all the Jewish conspiracies are true!' that I don't understand how that ever got a pass. But it's not a glitch and certainly not funny.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Arcanum has the supremely offensive anti-semitic questline that's so over-the-top about 'all the Jewish conspiracies are true!' that I don't understand how that ever got a pass. But it's not a glitch and certainly not funny. What the gently caress?
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Arcanum has the supremely offensive anti-semitic questline that's so over-the-top about 'all the Jewish conspiracies are true!' that I don't understand how that ever got a pass. But it's not a glitch and certainly not funny. Do you have a source on this? It's been decades since I've played it and have no recollection of this at all.
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Jun 12, 2019 10:43
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Read on the Arcanum Gnome conspiracy.
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I never made the connection, but now that you say it, that's, uh, unpleasantly obvious. Evil race of bankers and industrialists who have an active conspiracy to make everyone else stupid? That's... yeah. Probably not intended to be a Jew stand-in, because I don't want to accuse Troika of that degree of bigotry without some kind of proof, but it could in all honestly be something out of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Dunno how they missed that.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Read on the Arcanum Gnome conspiracy. Holy poo poo, how did I not remember something like that.
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I wanna believe it was supposed to be a parody of those conspiracies but accidentally got too involved for its own good.
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It's spectacularly tasteless no matter what. Ogre Island is one of those places I never went to and oh my God, that is so much worse than I ever thought it would be. I'm glad now that I never did, I think my ten year old self might have started to barf. I stand to my opinion about the rest of the game and I'll keep recommending it, but wow, that's pretty bad.
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The Gnome Conspiracy questline is also unfinished iirc, but yeah it's... pretty bad. I'd be willing to give the benefit of the doubt and assume it wasn't specifically intended to be antisemitic, if only because the game was made before the goddamn Nazis felt brave enough to walk around in broad daylight. Really the whole concept of gnomes (and goblins) is often heavily bound up in antisemitic tropes, so it's very possible that what sounded like a great idea for a questline on paper turned out to be maybe not a great idea simply because the source material is incredibly fraught.
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I hope so, it is $1.49 on gog and I purchased it before learning about gnomes.
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I played the game for a hundred hours and never even stumbled over whatever particular quest reveals this, so I think you'll get your money's worth. It's honestly a good game.
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Angry Diplomat posted:the game was made before the goddamn Nazis felt brave enough to walk around in broad daylight. Wow I didn't know Arcanum came out in the 1920s.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Arcanum has the supremely offensive anti-semitic questline that's so over-the-top about 'all the Jewish conspiracies are true!' that I don't understand how that ever got a pass. But it's not a glitch and certainly not funny. The gnome conspiracy thing is a bit weird, yes. I can't exactly say how bad it is, because it's very clearly not finished(deliberately or otherwise). Gnomes(who represent a disproportionate amount of Tarant's industrial elite) can be interpreted as being meant to represent Jews, but I don't know that that was actually intended or not, and I wouldn't say it's blatant enough for it to be 100%. The half-ogre conspiracy quest has a build-up which might suggest that it's heading in the direction of "the gnomes are trying to replace everyone with half-ogres because they think they represent the ideal industrial worker", but there's no resolution to it. You find the facility where they've done medical experiments to try and produce half-ogres, it's abandoned, you read a couple of journals and then that's it. When you go back to the guy who gave you the quest, he's gone. Exactly what's going on or who exactly is involved is never explained.
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I think it's like how the muppet show had a Rastafarian baboon: they did something racist, even though it's easy to believe they weren't trying to say something racist. It's bad, and does not need defending...but it does remind me of South Park's much worse "joke" of saying "  haha yeah I hate Jews" over and over again
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cock hero flux posted:The gnome conspiracy thing is a bit weird, yes. I can't exactly say how bad it is, because it's very clearly not finished(deliberately or otherwise). Gnomes(who represent a disproportionate amount of Tarant's industrial elite) can be interpreted as being meant to represent Jews, but I don't know that that was actually intended or not, and I wouldn't say it's blatant enough for it to be 100%. The half-ogre conspiracy quest has a build-up which might suggest that it's heading in the direction of "the gnomes are trying to replace everyone with half-ogres because they think they represent the ideal industrial worker", but there's no resolution to it. You find the facility where they've done medical experiments to try and produce half-ogres, it's abandoned, you read a couple of journals and then that's it. When you go back to the guy who gave you the quest, he's gone. Exactly what's going on or who exactly is involved is never explained. It seems like one person wrote that quest and knew exactly what was up and everyone else was naive. I mean it's only been a few years since I found out that white supremacists literally thought that all jews were conspiring to eliminate all white people through breeding. All of the more blatant antisemitism was on the back burner before Trump ran for president. It really is word for word the exact white supremacist conspiracy with ogre and gnome replacing black and jew
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what if it was a high elf psyop to sow discord tho
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rodbeard posted:It seems like one person wrote that quest and knew exactly what was up and everyone else was naive.
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It feels like the author wanted to make X-Files/Deus Ex style "what if this crazy conspiracy was actually true?" story, but didn't stop to consider that (1) picking an extremely racist conspiracy is not a good idea and (2) using fantasy races as a paper thin disguise doesn't make it any less racist. e. Or just didn't care, since it's not like gaming press was going to rise an issue back then. Kennel has a new favorite as of 12:58 on Jun 13, 2019 |
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Unless it's elves, because everyone hates elves anyway.
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Cardiovorax posted:Unless it's elves, because everyone hates elves anyway.  DWARF SPOTTED
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And proud of it! Bitch, my beard is glorious. VV You're just jealous that you can't grow a proper beard. Cardiovorax has a new favorite as of 14:30 on Jun 13, 2019 |
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Shocking that goons identify with the short, fat alcoholics who live in the basement and shun the light over the personable and attractive people who enjoy the outdoors.
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