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Cover art is still used for gaming icons on consoles.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 00:23 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 15:57 |
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The guy in the cover art is your pal from that demo isn't it? They probably thought it would be better than having a character that you may never see in the game. Though I guess it would be like if Garrus was the only character on the Mass Effect cover.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 00:26 |
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Not sure if you're serious but no, the guy on the cover is the default male version of your character. You can play both as a male or female V, and there's supposed to be further appearence customization.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 00:37 |
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Do I get a discount if I own most of the Witcher stuff
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 02:39 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Do I get a discount if I own most of the Witcher stuff No, cause you're paying $87.77 for Cyberpunk, with a bunch other free stuff thrown in.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 02:42 |
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Really, the cover just looks like it might be placeholder art. If it's not, then maybe they'll redo it based on the poor reception.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 02:59 |
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Why don't they just put Keanu on the cover sell a bazillion copies
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 04:00 |
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Cross-Section posted:Why don't they just put Keanu on the cover They probably wanted to, Keanu's agent probably said no
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 05:06 |
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Cross-Section posted:Why don't they just put Keanu on the cover
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 05:36 |
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Max Wilco posted:Really, the cover just looks like it might be placeholder art. Looks pretty set. It's so, so bland. Do better.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 06:13 |
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I gotta say, all the complaints about the cover art are actually making me look forward to the game more. When people have to reach for "the cover art is boring" to find something to complain about then you've done pretty good.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 06:38 |
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Gobblecoque posted:I gotta say, all the complaints about the cover art are actually making me look forward to the game more. When people have to reach for "the cover art is boring" to find something to complain about then you've done pretty good. I mean, sure. The game looks to be (from what I've seen) embracing eclectic color schemes and an intriguingly diverse mix of races and characters, even moving well beyond our rather black-white dichotomy of such issues by adding the cyberpunk future that relies heavily on the concept of man-machine augmentations. They choose to represent this world through a picture of Bland White Guy w/ Gun. It looks like poo poo. I'm sure it'll be a great game, but you're doing your work a disservice by pandering to a group that really does not need to be pandered to at this point. Hell, how about these guys on the cover: I'd say it's far more representative of the setting. The sooner we can get away from the bullshit myth of 'A Game Won't Sell Unless There's A Straight Dude With A Gun On The Cover', the better. fake edit: accidentally said 'Straight Dude' instead of 'White Dude' but i'mma leave it there
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 07:03 |
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why does the cyberpunk man dress like a 2017 man
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 07:04 |
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bowmore posted:why does the cyberpunk man dress like a 2017 man Fashion's cyclical. And cynical.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 07:20 |
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If it was just a black box with the title on it, it'd already look better. Yellow is a great color for highlights, but really terrible for backgrounds. And the guy is so generic-looking. What I assume is the Collector's Edition box (kompendium wiedzy blah blah) literally has a better cover by starring the guy's jacket instead.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 09:18 |
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Cat Mattress posted:And the guy is so generic-looking. Welcome to the Flavor-Web.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 09:30 |
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Dissapointed Owl posted:They choose to represent this world through a picture of Bland White Guy w/ Gun. "Guy with gun" cover sells games to people who browse stores with no particular goal or idea what kind of game is that, and that's not even a myth, just marketing statistics. Also, who cares about box cover art, grandma, just buy digital like normal people.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 09:34 |
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Lemon-Lime posted:I like how they had a cool lady protagonist that everyone liked in the gameplay demo last year and decided to make their cover character a boring white dude instead. Well actually there were no women in historical future Poland, furthermore
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 09:51 |
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Gobblecoque posted:I gotta say, all the complaints about the cover art are actually making me look forward to the game more. When people have to reach for "the cover art is boring" to find something to complain about then you've done pretty good. indeed. that's why I'm pretty sure Mystery of the Druids is the best game of all time.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 09:57 |
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Pyromancer posted:"Guy with gun" cover sells games to people who browse stores with no particular goal or idea what kind of game is that, and that's not even a myth, just marketing statistics. Show me these statistics, because correlation does not imply causation. Overwatch, Nier Automata, Horizon Zero Dawn, just some recent hits that bucked this trend completely. It's a trend not because it's a proven success, but it's what is perceived to sell. That's why they keep doing it. Plenty of 'Guy With Gun cover' games have been financial failures. It's not about having something to look at. It's about general industry trends and their impact on gaming and game culture. Hell, culture in general.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 10:52 |
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They probably decided that the bright yellow made it stand out on shelves while the gun-guy made it clear at a glance to someone who doesn't pay attention to this stuff that it was a gritty action game.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 11:03 |
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Dissapointed Owl posted:Overwatch, Nier Automata, Horizon Zero Dawn, just some recent hits that bucked this trend completely. From "guy with a gun" to "girl with a gun", whoa, what a revolution! Here is a short guide to almost all box covers: 1) Pick a background - solid white, solid black or explosion are the most common 2) Place a picture of the main character on it in one of 4 variants: full height in some action pose, full height facing away, just from waist up or just the head That's all there is to it, those 3 "trend-bucking" games did that exact thing too.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 11:26 |
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Pyromancer posted:From "guy with a gun" to "girl with a gun", whoa, what a revolution! I’m not asking for a revolution. The whole point was to show that, no, Guy With Gun cover is not necessarily gonna sell better than something that isn’t Guy With Gun. The fact that it’s a stylised woman carrying some form of weapon still means it’s =/ Guy With Gun cover. At this point I’m not sure if you’re being dense or just have an issue admitting that Guy With Gun is 1. Not more likely to result in a hit game and you just pulled that ‘fact’ out of your rear end, and 2. Is a telling and extremely boring way to represent a game. If it helps I can put the covers of Horizon and Nier Automata next to this cover and point out how they’re stylised renditions of something Not Guy With Gun.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 11:49 |
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I'll probably end up playing the guy on the cover, he seems alright.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 12:39 |
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Dissapointed Owl posted:At this point I’m not sure if you’re being dense but, How the hell would any of the examples you listed have guy with a gun on the cover. Wow a game featuring female protagonists dont have guy with a gun HOW SUBVERSIVE. Tetris Attack doesnt have guy with a gun on the cover and it sold just fine. Game companies please do better. Also I've played all of those games and cant remember anything about the covers and dont really care so imo it doesnt really matter
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 12:58 |
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Mass Effect 1 to 3 featured default male Sheppard on the cover art and never read this awful "white guy with a gun" stuff. As long as the game is good, who cares?
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 13:29 |
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:but, The argument was: Guy With Gun covers inherently sell better. That’s not true. Games without Guy With Gun covers have mass appeal also. As for why NOT a Guy With A Gun: I explained the diverse nature of the setting, the characters and the fact you can make your own character. Nobody would make this bland mook. As for why it matters, not really except for the fact it’s a continuation of pretty toxic game industry trope that shuns diversity because ‘only Guy With Gun covers sell well’ which, again, is untrue. Also, nobody gives a poo poo if Doom or Call Of Duty has such a cover. It’s almost (but not really) a necessity in those cases. From what I’ve seen, this game is about freedom, modification, and options. The cover is lazy as gently caress and maybe indicative of something. It’s okay to say that. It’s also okay to have a discussion about it instead of going, “it doesn’t matter’.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 13:44 |
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Guillermus posted:Mass Effect 1 to 3 featured default male Sheppard on the cover art and never read this awful "white guy with a gun" stuff. As long as the game is good, who cares? People complained about it a lot and Mass Effect 3 got a reversible cover to assuage that.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 15:00 |
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Indicative of what lol Big budget games dont have the liberty of doing wonky experimental stuff. Man with gun is a safe decision that tells potential buyers who dont know what cyberpunk is that you have a gun and you can play as a dude. Who cares about covers, it's just marketing stuff. The cover isnt lazy, I assure you their top marketing teams focus grouped it to hell. You dont have that data and neither do I, but I know it was an informed choice meant to push more units.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 15:01 |
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"Guy with gun" sells, unfortunately because focus groups are the worst. Bioshock Infinite's cover focus group literally complained about Elizabeth and Booker being on the cover and came back with "more focus on Booker, make the gun bigger". Like...people complain rightly that in America all the box art is largely lovely but it's because the average customer clientele (or at least whoever they drag in to do these focus groups) have lovely taste! But the marketing people need to justify their existence and maybe there is a correlation between box art and sales even today but there's no way the average person is getting their hands on that data.Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:Indicative of what lol Exactly this.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 15:58 |
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I can't believe anyone really gives a poo poo what the cover is. It's kinda bland, sure, but I agree with the dude who said if this is all there is to criticize, they're doing good work. I can see this being something worth discussion for album covers, but not for video games. I can think of very few video game covers I actually thought were "good" in the first place.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 15:59 |
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Dissapointed Owl posted:The cover is lazy as gently caress and maybe indicative of something. It’s okay to say that. It’s also okay to have a discussion about it instead of going, “it doesn’t matter’. None of this is wrong but also well, you can't really obligate people to be as invested in the topic as you are since game covers just genuinely aren't something most people (at least here) care about at all. Don't think anyone's telling you that you can't talk about it, but you might need to adjust your expectations for the quality of said discussion accordingly.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 16:37 |
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Kanfy posted:None of this is wrong but also well, you can't really obligate people to be as invested in the topic as you are since game covers just genuinely aren't something most people (at least here) care about at all. Don't think anyone's telling you that you can't talk about it, but you might need to adjust your expectations for the quality of said discussion accordingly. I guess so, drat.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 16:43 |
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the salient point is, however, that it's stupid to look at and you should point and laugh at it
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 16:54 |
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The annoying thing about the cover is (for me) the background color. It's so obviously chosen to yell "notice me" that it almost has the opposite result to me (a semi-colorblind person too). Meaning, I'll probably buy the game regardless, but I don't appreciate my screen being filled with annoyingly bright colors -- knowing GOG's marketing strategy we're bound to have this as a huge panel and possibly popup in their front page.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 17:06 |
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Dissapointed Owl posted:The argument was: Guy With Gun covers inherently sell better. I have bad news for you.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 17:24 |
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Just how much is Keanu in the game even? Is it going to be another Oblivion where it has Patrick Stewart, but only for the intro cutscene?
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 17:42 |
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Nullsmack posted:Just how much is Keanu in the game even? Is it going to be another Oblivion where it has Patrick Stewart, but only for the intro cutscene? It'd be kinda odd to have him do voice, likeness, and motion-capture for only an intro scene but on the other hand CDPR has a lot of money to sling around.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 17:45 |
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The cover is a a subtle homage to Deus Ex: Invisible War, indicating that Cyberpunk is going to be a worthy successor.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 18:17 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 15:57 |
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:indeed. that's why I'm pretty sure Mystery of the Druids is the best game of all time. Hell yeah
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 18:19 |