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PBS
Sep 21, 2015

You posted that a week ago

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BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

every day is groundhog day in higher ed

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

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evil_bunnY posted:

Get out of my head.

"Hi can you come help us in the formulations lab ASAP? We have an engineer from Japan on-site today to install our specialized HPLC that we bought 3 months ago but didn't tell you and he has to fly back in 2 hours but there's no network port on this side of the lab and the PC doesn't have wifi oh and it's win7 sp2 and needs to connect to the internet"

hows that?

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




is SIEM pronounced "sim" or "seem" because I've heard both and pretty sure I unintentionally alternate myself :ohdear:

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

I say "sim" and I have no idea if it's correct but I've gone too far to stop now.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Last week I pronounced it "see-em" and felt like a fool.

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

I tend to say see-em because CIM is also a thing for your SIEM and then it just turns in to terminology hell

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
Seam is how I pronounce it

PBS
Sep 21, 2015
SIM is how I hear everyone pronounce it

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

I tend to say see-em because CIM is also a thing for your SIEM and then it just turns in to terminology hell
this

Ranter posted:

"Hi can you come help us in the formulations lab ASAP? We have an engineer from Japan on-site today to install our specialized HPLC that we bought 3 months ago but didn't tell you and he has to fly back in 2 hours but there's no network port on this side of the lab and the PC doesn't have wifi oh and it's win7 sp2 and needs to connect to the internet"
it's fun to tell profs making twice what I do to go gently caress themselves. Once you've stood your ground once everyone magically gets with the program or stays out of your way. It helps to be fantastically helpful to people who play ball.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

I tend to say see-em because CIM is also a thing for your SIEM and then it just turns in to terminology hell

This is why i refuse to communicate about IT in anything but text format.

Preferable to send it by carrier pigeon for maximizing bandwidth and redundancy

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.
The mpl both recently invited some great people as well as cemented that they absolutely no clue on the direction of the mpl.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

RFC2324 posted:

This is why i refuse to communicate about IT in anything but text format.

Preferable to send it by carrier pigeon for maximizing bandwidth and redundancy

Around 2008 or something the organization I was working with bought the IBM protocol of Connect:Direct

Tripped me up so much because in college (before bit torrent took off) therr was a private Goon Direct Connect file sharing server. It was an excellent barebones file sharing software with none of the ads of Bearshare or Kazaa.

The problem was the purposes of both were to do the same thing: move files over the internet. Because of that I couldn't separate the two names from my head. I heard, "do you mean Connect: Direct?" so many times since one our clients decided to use it.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
Apparently China carried out another BGP hijack against the EU on the 7th

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



CommieGIR posted:

Apparently China carried out another BGP hijack against the EU on the 7th

Isn't calling it and "hijack" a bit of a stretch? The break down I read is that a route advertisement gently caress-up by Safe Host directed everything through China Telcom who then echoed the routes instead of dropping them as they should.

I'll give you that China Telecom is sketchy as gently caress when it comes to BGP, but this strikes me more as a "took advantage of a gently caress up". Hijacking to me implies they directly influenced the initial mistake to begin with.

geonetix
Mar 6, 2011


Doesn't surprise me that someone would describe that as an active attack when we're in an age where having your 18 year old leaked password being abused to steal your icloud photos is called "hacking".

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




I once had a family member ask me if I could "hack faster wifi onto her phone" so in this day and age words really are meaningless

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
Fair enough, unintentional hijack.

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

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CLAM DOWN posted:

I once had a family member ask me if I could "hack faster wifi onto her phone" so in this day and age words really are meaningless

Hack means to write quick code to solve a problem. So they were asking for a quick fix, so they were using it half-correctly?

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Ranter posted:

Hack means to write quick code to solve a problem.

Are you a hacker or one of them no-good computer crackers?

Let's take the word back!

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


geonetix posted:

Doesn't surprise me that someone would describe that as an active attack when we're in an age where having your 18 year old leaked password being abused to steal your icloud photos is called "hacking".

The word "hack" has become a real brick.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Ranter posted:

Hack means to write quick code to solve a problem. So they were asking for a quick fix, so they were using it half-correctly?

Hack my balls you gently caress man

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

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CLAM DOWN posted:

Hack my balls you gently caress man

this is me right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcAACOrgVKE

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

People, please, the correct term is either hack solutions provider or hacking engineer.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Powered Descent posted:

People, please, the correct term is either hack solutions provider or hacking engineer.

One day I want a business card that says "Penetration Expert & Payload Injector"

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

CLAM DOWN posted:

"Penetration Expert & Network Intrusion Specialist"

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
Penetration & Exfiltration Execution, Networking.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Have I Been Pwned is up for sale.

I'm sure the highest bidder won't sack Troy at the first convenient opportunity and leverage that treasure trove of hack data and public goodwill to their own agenda!

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



i'm shocked, shocked

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.
We really need more non-profit associations or other organisations to run services like these, and other services useful for internet. Don't want to rely on individuals or businesses for something like this.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Saukkis posted:

We really need more non-profit associations or other organisations to run services like these, and other services useful for internet. Don't want to rely on individuals or businesses for something like this.

Isn’t Mozilla doing something in this space? Maybe they’ll pick up HIBP!

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Subjunctive posted:

Isn’t Mozilla doing something in this space? Maybe they’ll pick up HIBP!

Their Monitor service uses HIBP as a backend/lookup.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Saukkis posted:

We really need more non-profit associations or other organisations to run services like these, and other services useful for internet. Don't want to rely on individuals or businesses for something like this.

There really does. Much like a lot of the best Security/Hacking tools are open source and community driven.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

CLAM DOWN posted:

Their Monitor service uses HIBP as a backend/lookup.

Even better!

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares



Application Secutity Specialist

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

Kerning Chameleon posted:

Have I Been Pwned is up for sale.

I'm sure the highest bidder won't sack Troy at the first convenient opportunity and leverage that treasure trove of hack data and public goodwill to their own agenda!

Depending on how well KPMG structures the resulting ownership and contractual goodies, sacking Troy might actually be pretty hard.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

Depending on how well KPMG structures the resulting ownership and contractual goodies, sacking Troy might actually be pretty hard.

Yeah, there are lots of ways to go here but some will affect how attractive it is to a prospective buyer. (I think that for the kind of buyer we'd want to see, it wouldn't be a huge barrier to have non-standard control provisions.)

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender
I'm glad I got out of the game of having stolen credentials available to the masses.

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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Ranter posted:

scientists and research assistants are notorious for buying lab instruments that come with rando win7 machines 'thrown in' on the $100,000+ equipment order and not telling IT. Then they use USB flash drives to transfer the data to their machine for analysis. Then they ask service desk for help 18 months later when the machine shits the bed and its 'urgent'.

We finally put a process in place, capex purchases with computers included go through an approval process including "did you check the warehouse to see if we already had one of these" and "can the vendor install the software on one of our standard machines."

I did our gowning training and am now privileged to request access to many more rooms and areas. So far I've gotten into three labs run by people who didn't want to approve unescorted access for various reasons; like using weird chemicals that require a non-standard gowning/de-gowning process, or "has hundreds of gallons of liquid nitrogen in the room".

That brings us down to 331 systems "not found". Decades of "our oversight, unlike our funding, is limited" is coming to an end.

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