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Is this the new car thread or the I don't use a car at all thread
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Jun 11, 2019 23:04
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Obesity.txt Americans aren't fat because they're running on treadmills instead of to work.
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Jun 11, 2019 23:20
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Americans aren't fat because they're running on treadmills instead of to work. “Reasonably often”
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Jun 11, 2019 23:22
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Solus posted:Is this the new car thread or the I don't use a car at all thread I don't even HAVE a new car 
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Jun 12, 2019 01:05
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:“Reasonably often” Americans are fat in large part due to the fact they eat giant quantities of lovely food, not because they don't run often enough. If everyone biked or walked more they'd certainly be healthier and the world would be a better place, but most obese people would still be obese even with moderate exercise unless they also drastically changed their diet habits. It's also just not an option for everyone to do that. I've always been pretty fit and I like exercise but when I lived in Louisiana I'd never walk more than a half mile in the summer if I needed to be presentable when I got there because the humidity and heat just made it impossible to not arrive drenched in sweat.
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Jun 12, 2019 01:45
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Two words: Golden Corral
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Jun 12, 2019 02:01
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KakerMix posted:I don't even HAVE a new car Only because you can't legally import one.
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Jun 12, 2019 03:17
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Solus posted:Is this the new car thread or the I don't use a car at all thread It's the new cars suck so I'd rather not have a car thread 
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Jun 12, 2019 03:35
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KillHour posted:Only because you can't legally import one. 
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Jun 12, 2019 04:06
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KillHour posted:Only because you can't legally import one. 
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Jun 12, 2019 05:02
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Dietary information in America/Canada has traditionally been pretty bad, even most healthy-minded people are doing stupid poo poo like buying low-fat yogurt while ignoring all the sugar in it, and everyone's always so stressed out and so short on time that people eat shitloads of ultra-convenient fast food which is designed by teams of chefs and food scientists to be as tasty and addictive as possible also bikes are awesome and i think i'm going to take my old mountain bike in for some new road tires
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Jun 12, 2019 05:03
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The Prong Song posted:My workplace is literally 1.7 miles away from my house and I've never walked, biked, skateboarded, scootered, moped-ed, rollerskated, rollerbladed, skied, or otherwise moved myself to or from work using a method of transport that didn't involve a combustion engine driving the wheel(s). wtf
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Jun 12, 2019 06:20
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Goober Peas posted:Exactly. How many porn stars are named 'hybrid' Theres a whole subset of porn devoted to "hybrids"
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Jun 12, 2019 08:08
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Wheeee posted:Dietary information in America/Canada has traditionally been pretty bad, even most healthy-minded people are doing stupid poo poo like buying low-fat yogurt while ignoring all the sugar in it, and everyone's always so stressed out and so short on time that people eat shitloads of ultra-convenient fast food which is designed by teams of chefs and food scientists to be as tasty and addictive as possible I hate how convenient and addictive fast food is. I brought a salad for my lunch the other day but a friend was going to taco bell, so I gave him some money for a couple chili cheese burritos. My salad is still in the fridge. I run at least two miles a week and go to the gym an additional two days minimum, but then last night we went to Red Robin. I am weak 
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Jun 12, 2019 12:19
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Americans are fat in large part due to the fact they eat giant quantities of lovely food, not because they don't run often enough. If everyone biked or walked more they'd certainly be healthier and the world would be a better place, but most obese people would still be obese even with moderate exercise unless they also drastically changed their diet habits. Americans are fat because of sedentary lifestyles coupled with poor diet. Saying someone can’t walk just over a mile to work is absolutely part of the problem. It wouldn’t get you 100% of the way but even if they did nothing to their diet it would at least get a little bit of a caloric burn going, slowing the weight gain or potentially breaking even if they were eating around maintenance already. However, health habits tend to breed other healthy habits so instead of driving to the store maybe now they’re more apt to walk or ride a bike. Tl;dr: driving a mile to work is insane CornHolio posted:I run at least two miles a week and go to the gym an additional two days minimum, but then last night we went to Red Robin. Is this supposed to be 2 miles a day?
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Jun 12, 2019 12:25
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Is this supposed to be 2 miles a day? Yeah CornHolio I'm with ya man but isn't that number very little? :-/
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Jun 12, 2019 12:41
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Just to provide one counterpoint anecdote; I live a few miles from work but neither the road infrastructure or the facilities at work make biking there a good idea. I do manage to walk a mile every day by stepping outside on my breaks and lunch, but here in Mississippi 1) I would be hit by a car and killed riding a bike like a homeless person across a highway and then along a two lane road with no shoulder and 2) I would be absolutely drenched in sweat. The other thing that always bothered me when looking at cyclists is that they're not wearing the protective gear people (should) wear on a bike. It's not all abrasion protection, it's about not being paralyzed or losing a leg when peepaw cuts left in his Lesabre. They should have on a bunch of armored gear, but then who would want to pedal in that?
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Jun 12, 2019 13:08
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Something Offal posted:Yeah CornHolio I'm with ya man but isn't that number very little? :-/ I wish it were two miles a day but no, that's per week. Sure feels like a lot edit: That's at once. I normally go on a run one day out of the week and hit the gym two other days, though sometimes I'll do two two-mile runs in a week. I don't think my legs could take much more. CornHolio fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Jun 12, 2019 |
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Jun 12, 2019 14:35
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Obesity.txt ILiveInAStateWithAnAverageTempMayToSeptemberOverEightyDegreesCombinedWithAverageHumidityOver80Percent,NotThePacNorthwestWhere78IsReallyHotAnd58IsReallyColdTheresNoWayImTaking6ShowersADayToFacilitateYourDesireToSeeMeWalkAShortDistanceToWork.txt
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Jun 12, 2019 14:41
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Jack B Nimble posted:Just to provide one counterpoint anecdote; I live a few miles from work but neither the road infrastructure or the facilities at work make biking there a good idea. I do manage to walk a mile every day by stepping outside on my breaks and lunch, but here in Mississippi 1) I would be hit by a car and killed riding a bike like a homeless person across a highway and then along a two lane road with no shoulder and 2) I would be absolutely drenched in sweat. Observing how people drive around on the country roads here I do not want to ride them on a bike all it takes is one rear end in a top hat not paying attention and looking at their phone to end your rear end around the town center/residential streets it's fine but there's still no actual bike lanes anywhere to be seen
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Jun 12, 2019 14:45
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Monkey Fracas posted:Observing how people drive around on the country roads here I do not want to ride them on a bike If it's really a town center or low speed residential with pedestrians and people walking their dogs and jogging and stuff, then you wouldn't want bike lanes anyway. Bikes should just be on the road in 20mph areas, you can and should act like a car in that situation. My neighborhood is going through the process of dropping the speed limit to 20 and replacing all 4-way stops with traffic circles and it is glorious.
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Jun 12, 2019 14:51
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The north east has turned into a temperate rain forest due to climate change so walking or riding a bike to work is kind of a no go atm.
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Jun 12, 2019 14:53
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Read about a new car you like? Debate how you should be walking or riding a bike!
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Jun 12, 2019 14:54
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A lot of posters need a concrete pill Jesus Christ
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Jun 12, 2019 14:55
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euphronius posted:The north east has turned into a temperate rain forest due to climate change so walking or riding a bike to work is kind of a no go atm. it's a good job we have all these cars and no gas tax, otherwise we might need to change out behaviour due to climate change
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Jun 12, 2019 14:57
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The recommendation in Sweden for every adult is 150 minutes of medium aerobe exercise (brisk walk) a week, preferably combined with weight training as well. If you are overweight, it's double or 150/min of high intensity aerobe exercise combined with better diet, aiming for a 5% weight loss. If you'd walk or cycle that 3 mile or whatever it was commute instead of driving, you would probably get your 150 minutes as well as not waste gas.
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Jun 12, 2019 15:04
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The Prong Song posted:ILiveInAStateWithAnAverageTempMayToSeptemberOverEightyDegreesCombinedWithAverageHumidityOver80Percent, How do people in 3rd world countries who wear long sleeves in summer do it? Let's talk about how convertibles, summer, and stop and go traffic don't go together.
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Jun 12, 2019 15:12
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Twerk from Home posted:If it's really a town center or low speed residential with pedestrians and people walking their dogs and jogging and stuff, then you wouldn't want bike lanes anyway. Bikes should just be on the road in 20mph areas This is completely wrong. There’s been a number of recent studies that show that separate *protected* bike lanes make traffic safer for everyone.
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Jun 12, 2019 15:16
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drgitlin posted:This is completely wrong. There’s been a number of recent studies that show that separate *protected* bike lanes make traffic safer for everyone. I saw that study too, but the practice in my area is that where we do have protected bike lanes, they never get cleaned and become a minefield of broken glass, road debris, and rocks. I don't think that the city has a way to clean them, given that street sweepers won't fit in. I avoid riding in them because it's exhausting to have to pick perfect lines to avoid flats. I'm also interested if "safer" means "lower accident / injury rate" or "lower death rate", because slowing cars to 20mph makes them far less lethal while protected bike lanes next to high-speed roads sounds like when things do go wrong, there will be a fatality. Edit: I peeked at the study, and they saw a much lower fatality rate: https://usa.streetsblog.org/2019/05/29/protect-yourself-separated-bike-lanes-means-safer-streets-study-says/ As is common, my impression on what works for me personally does not make for good policy. Here's hoping that the people actually implementing the policy know statistics better than I do. My city (Nashville) concluded that the low-speed neighborhood streets with everyone in the road is the best infrastructure improvement for 2019, and I'm a fan of it. Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Jun 12, 2019 |
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Jun 12, 2019 15:23
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Twerk from Home posted:I saw that study too, but the practice in my area is that where we do have protected bike lanes, they never get cleaned and become a minefield of broken glass, road debris, and rocks. I don't think that the city has a way to clean them, given that street sweepers won't fit in. I avoid riding in them because it's exhausting to have to pick perfect lines to avoid flats. They make small street sweepers specifically for bike lanes, the problem is that cities don’t want any additional costs to buy and run one.
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Jun 12, 2019 15:28
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pointsofdata posted:it's a good job we have all these cars and no gas tax, otherwise we might need to change out behaviour due to climate change Consumer transport is a contributing factor, but a relatively minor one on a global scale. Climate change has been and is driven primarily by commercial and industrial operations As seen with the recent hysteria over plastic straws and shopping bags, there has been a decades-long concerted effort to shift responsibility/blame for the climate and environment away from the actual source of the problems and onto individual people. A single freight ship making a single trip across the ocean packed full of cheap lovely disposable goods that were produced overseas to maximize profit does more damage to the earth's climate than every coal rolling white trash redneck in America combined. 
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Jun 12, 2019 15:36
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It's shameful to think 150 years ago, all transoceanic shipping was powered by clean Nuclear Fusion, now in the Atomic Age we burn bunker oil in our ships. More seriously, things like ethical consumption are convoluted and difficult, and deliberately made so by large corporations, how one makes it to work is an easy way to feel like you're making a difference, either way it's something for the upper-middle to upper class to worry about, when you're broke you go for what gives you the highest standard of living for the cheapest. Capitalism won't solve this problem, only large scale government regulation can.
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Jun 12, 2019 15:52
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Wheeee posted:Consumer transport is a contributing factor, but a relatively minor one on a global scale. Climate change has been and is driven primarily by commercial and industrial operations Those commercial and industrial applications are ultimately to produce items for consumers. e.g. the oil and gas industry produces a lot of emissions, and a good chunk of their products go direct to consumers. Even the portion that isn't direct to consumers (e.g. fuel for freight trucks/commercial airlines/chemical processing) is to an extent driven by consumer demand. I agree that we should tax the industrial producers of GHG at least as much as we do fuel, but we can't pretend this isn't going to force people to change behaviour due to price changes.
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Jun 12, 2019 15:58
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Elviscat posted:It's shameful to think 150 years ago, all transoceanic shipping was powered by clean Nuclear Fusion, now in the Atomic Age we burn bunker oil in our ships. Yeah we should tax carbon emissions heavily and give the money to the bottom 90% of the income distribution. Tax fuel retailers by units sold rather than doing it at the pump if you want to pretend you're only taxing corporations.
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Jun 12, 2019 16:00
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Not having good infrastructure to walk/ride a bike on is a very legit reason to drive a short distance to work. I'm not a militant YOU MUST RIDE/WALK EVERY DAY ALL THE TIME person, I don't even do it 100% of the time and I have all the advantages - good bike infrastructure, short commute (6 miles one way), work place with a shower and bike storage, i'm a fit cyclist and know how to fix mechanical issues/flats etc. But hey, start with 1 or 2 days a week and see how you feel about it. Anyways, how about this wagon?  My main complaint with small wagons, whose utility is always espoused, is the surprisingly small cargo space. My 2013 Honda Fit has more cargo space than this BMW (and even the E class wagon), which is 2 classes bigger in car size. Maybe focus groups don't care about having 60+ cubic feet of cargo room? Most hatchbacks, like a GTI/Golf have the same amount of cargo room as this at 52 cubic feet, what's the point besides buying a different kind of german mechanical mess?
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Jun 12, 2019 16:44
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Russian Bear posted:
Is the trunk floor extended compared to a regular 3-series or is this just kinda a 3-series hatchback?
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Jun 12, 2019 16:52
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I think the main advantage of small wagons is that you can lay the back seats flat, and have a much bigger cargo space. Think of them as slightly longer hatchbacks, rather than something comparable to a full-size wagon.
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Jun 12, 2019 16:57
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Russian Bear posted:Not having good infrastructure to walk/ride a bike on is a very legit reason to drive a short distance to work. I'm not a militant YOU MUST RIDE/WALK EVERY DAY ALL THE TIME person, I don't even do it 100% of the time and I have all the advantages - good bike infrastructure, short commute (6 miles one way), work place with a shower and bike storage, i'm a fit cyclist and know how to fix mechanical issues/flats etc. But hey, start with 1 or 2 days a week and see how you feel about it. i mean you can measure cargo room in cubic feet but obviously that doesnt account for the shape of that space. can you fit a big dog in the hatch area of a honda fit? most wagons and CUVs can have two medium/large dogs standing up in the back of the cargo area.
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Jun 12, 2019 17:01
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RS6 Avant is still the best looking estate.   ...and this is coming from someone who thinks Audi's designs are usually fairly boring. It really works with a big 'ol wagon though. Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Jun 12, 2019 |
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Had a chance to sneak a peek at the Hyundai Palisade the other day. I'm curious to see what the Genesis version will offer because in the higher level trims the Palisade isn't missing any features I can think of.
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