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Hell yeah let my 1080 run hogge wilde (coming from a 2500k)
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Seamonster posted:Hell yeah let my 1080 run hogge wilde (coming from a 2500k) I'm also eyeing a 3700x coming from a 2500k... 8 years of waiting finally pays off!
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Jun 11, 2019 21:25
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You guys who went for a 2500k over a 2600k 8 years ago, haven't you learned *anything*. 3900X or bust 
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Jun 11, 2019 21:38
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Threadkiller Dog posted:You guys who went for a 2500k over a 2600k 8 years ago, haven't you learned *anything*. 3900X or bust I learned I don't need to spend $500 for a CPU that will last 8 years
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Jun 11, 2019 22:01
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm also eyeing a 3700x coming from a 2500k... 8 years of waiting finally pays off!  But I'm going to wait for comprehensive gaming benchmarks and for the initial price-gouging from retailers to pass before I start buying parts. I won't be surprised if the $329 3700X is going for ~$400 the first few weeks after launch.
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Jun 11, 2019 22:37
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Have UK prices been confirmed for Ryzen 2 chips yet?
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Jun 11, 2019 22:58
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Show me those min frames so I can decide which CPU I'm going to buy 
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Jun 11, 2019 23:25
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Sub Rosa posted:I learned I don't need to spend $500 for a CPU that will last 8 years Pro move is buying the 3950X and immediately shut off half the cores. Then, every year you enable two of them at a time.  Thank me later.
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Jun 12, 2019 00:54
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Just replaced my 2500k crew chiming in. Went with an R5 2600 in a B450 tomohawk with some 3200 c16. Idea is when I see a Zen 2 chip or a good x570 board on sale, I can jump on it without needing ram, proc and board all at once. I would have waited, but my last of 3 Z77 boards started to get flakey, I've had to drop my overclock down to about 4400 and the thread count/ram bandwidth alone will make up for any differences in pure CPU grunt. gently caress, my GTX980 will probably never be cpu limited in this thing even at 1080 anyway. I for one welcome our new AMD overlords.
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Jun 12, 2019 01:08
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incoherent posted:Pro move is buying the 3950X and immediately shut off half the cores. Then, every year you enable two of them at a time. lmbo
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Jun 12, 2019 01:10
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Uhhhhh https://twitter.com/IanCutress/status/1138443875154944000
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Jun 12, 2019 09:25
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Every part of the silicon buffalo.
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Jun 12, 2019 10:39
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That’s genius.
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Jun 12, 2019 12:59
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eames posted:That’s genius. i mean if you are locked into a dumb silicon deal with GF might as well stick them to I/O parts.
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Jun 12, 2019 14:18
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I dunno, I think that's pretty awesome. Chiplets are wild, and this is the kind of weird science I never expected.
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Jun 12, 2019 16:33
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https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13495867 First 3950x benchmark. 5868 Single-Core, 61072 (!) Multi-Core. drat And this is with non-final silicon clocked at 3.3GHz base, 4.3GHz boost.
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Jun 12, 2019 16:43
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Seamonster posted:Hell yeah let my 1080 run hogge wilde (coming from a 2500k) Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm also eyeing a 3700x coming from a 2500k... 8 years of waiting finally pays off! Don Dongington posted:Just replaced my 2500k crew chiming in. jesus christ just merge the Intel/AMD threads into one titled "x86: we literally can't stop talking about sandy bridge"
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Jun 12, 2019 16:44
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My 2500k will never loving die, even with OC abuse, help how can I kill it to justify buying the new AMD poo poo?
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Jun 12, 2019 16:47
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pyrotek posted:https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13495867 On an X470 
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Jun 12, 2019 16:53
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Otakufag posted:My 2500k will never loving die, even with OC abuse, help how can I kill it to justify buying the new AMD poo poo? Have you ever checked how it runs overclocked without a fan, during a stress test, over and over again, using the highest voltage you can access on your motherboard? Edit: or maybe find the highest OC and voltage combo you can manage and set your fan to run so you keep it at maximum temperatures before it automatically resets and run a cpu stress test on it constantly whenever you aren't actively using it. pyrotek fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Jun 12, 2019 |
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Jun 12, 2019 17:00
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pyrotek posted:Have you ever checked how it runs overclocked without a fan, during a stress test, over and over again, using the highest voltage you can access on your motherboard? CPU glows with the heat of molten aluminum, still runs Cinebench
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Jun 12, 2019 17:07
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Kazinsal posted:CPU glows with the heat of molten aluminum, still runs Cinebench You didn’t see molten aluminum because there isn’t molten aluminum!
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Jun 12, 2019 17:10
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thats an unexpected advantage to just using PCIe links for everything. that also gives them the flexibility in the future to harvest IO dies with broken memory controllers, too.
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Jun 12, 2019 17:38
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pyrotek posted:https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13495867 If I'm reading this right, it scored 131% of the multi-core performance of the 18 core Intel chip and it's not even running at full clocks?  Oh, and the Intel chip it beats costs $2000. drat indeed.
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Jun 12, 2019 17:39
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BeastOfExmoor posted:If I'm reading this right, it scored 131% of the multi-core performance of the 18 core Intel chip and it's not even running at full clocks? That is what it looks like, although it could be that 4.3GHz is the stock all-core boost limit for the chip and it is running at full clocks. Either way, it is extremely impressive. Of course, even if that is the stock all-core maximum, single-core benchmarks should improve some with the 4.7GHz boost speed.
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Jun 12, 2019 17:49
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Bear in mind that geekbench's multicore benchmark is weird and gives a lot of weight to performance in applications that don't really scale with core count. The 32-core 2990WX scores 27653, for instance, putting it just behind a 6-core i7-8086K at 27779. I'm sure that's correct by whatever metric they use -- I'm guessing they bake a bunch of codec and stream processing -- but it's an absolutely ludicrous ranking for the sort of work where a 32 core CPU is a relevant consideration.
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Jun 12, 2019 17:51
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pyrotek posted:Have you ever checked how it runs overclocked without a fan, during a stress test, over and over again, using the highest voltage you can access on your motherboard? just wire up SocketKiller, the sequel to EtherKiller
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Jun 12, 2019 19:07
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Otakufag posted:My 2500k will never loving die, even with OC abuse, help how can I kill it to justify buying the new AMD poo poo? Ln2 and volt mods
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Jun 12, 2019 19:12
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:just wire up SocketKiller, the sequel to EtherKiller on this note I've kinda been wondering what happens if you plug a normal GPU into Apple's new PCIe-as-power-bus thing
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Jun 12, 2019 19:25
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Paul MaudDib posted:on this note I've kinda been wondering what happens if you plug a normal GPU into Apple's new PCIe-as-power-bus thing
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Can anybody else think of fun functionality coming from reusing the Matisse I/O die as the chipset? The twitter thread mentions repurposing DDR4 memory controllers as DRAM cache for SSDs. I suppose they could also put a nearly worthless 1-core chiplet on there so one could reflash the BIOS or reinstall windows without a CPU in the socket. They could also put a Vega 10 GPU on the chipset for a few extra bucks, turning regular CPUs into APUs. Otakufag posted:My 2500k will never loving die, even with OC abuse, help how can I kill it to justify buying the new AMD poo poo? My 8700K gets 1.45V after recent AMD news. 
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Jun 12, 2019 19:42
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pyrotek posted:That is what it looks like, although it could be that 4.3GHz is the stock all-core boost limit for the chip and it is running at full clocks. Either way, it is extremely impressive. That single core score is insane for 4.3GHz too, it crushes my Skylake chip which is sitting at 4.4GHz.
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Jun 12, 2019 19:43
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Gems of self awareness sometimes come from Reddit:
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hobbesmaster posted:You didn’t see molten aluminum because there isn’t molten aluminum! I was in the toilet, what did I miss? But seriously, I won't kill my 2500k on purpose but after I build my new system I'm probably going to retire it because I won't get much for it on ebay and I would have to buy a new PSU for my 2500k rig as well because my current HX650 PSU is also 8 years old. spasticColon fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Jun 12, 2019 |
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spasticColon posted:But seriously, I won't kill my 2500k on purpose but after I build my new system I'm probably going to retire it because I won't get much for it on ebay and I would have to buy a new PSU for my 2500k rig as well because my current HX650 PSU is also 8 years old. Dunno if it's still the case with 6+ cores becoming the norm and DDR4 speeds going into the stratosphere, but a while ago you could sell a working Z series Sandy mainboard for several 100$
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sauer kraut posted:Dunno if it's still the case with 6+ cores becoming the norm and DDR4 speeds going into the stratosphere, but a while ago you could sell a working Z series Sandy mainboard for several 100$ Unfortunately, my Sandy Bridge board is a P67 series. I might sell the RAM though. Everything else is my system is so old I don't think I could resell it for much. Does used DDR3 RAM (Two different 2x4GB kits) fetch a good price? But first I just want to build a 3600X or 3700X rig in August and move only my GTX1070 over to the new rig. Re-using the video card is going to save me $300-$400 on my next build which is nice. Or is the GTX1070 not going to cut the mustard for 1080p60 gaming much longer?
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I noticed that ASRock released the updated BIOS for my motherboard, so I did some messing around with underclocking/undervolting. I've always run everything stock, so I wanted to learn how this all worked before the 3X00s dropped. I used one of my 2700 machines for this. Before changing anything, here's what it looked like: * All cores boosted to 3300MHz at full load (100MHz over base clocks) * System power of 24.5W at idle * System power of 104.5W at full load (all threads 100% utilization) I read in a couple of places on the internet that Ryzen systems were ridiculously efficient, if you wanted them to be. I now agree. I was expecting to fiddle endlessly with things to get single-digit wattage reductions, but the very first thing I tried: * Turn off XFR/PBO (labelled as "AMD CBS" in my mobo's bios) * Set overclocking mode to "manual" * Leave CPU clock at stock (3200MHz) * Set Vcore offset to -100mV And rebooted. Under full load, the entire system was now pulling 86W. That's an 18.5W drop just from telling the CPU to stop overclocking itself, and the Vcore offset. Also, the CPU is running about 10C cooler than it was previously. I am crazy excited for the 3900X now. Edit: my load testing is the work these machines are usually doing: scientific grid computing tasks. Not all tasks are created equal. I just observed total system draw at 92W, so there's going to be some up and down, clearly. I'm still happy with how dramatic the reductions are for so little effort. mdxi fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jun 13, 2019 |
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Seeing as I've been playing low utilization games lately, maybe I'll undervolt my CPU and GPU and post the results. It's hot in the summer!
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The 3900X and 3950X are pretty cool and exciting but overkill for gaming at the moment. But if you're a content creator and/or run A LOT of VMs then yeah, the 3900X and 3950X will be fantastic values from a price/performance standpoint. Intel is probably freaking the gently caress out right now.  Edit: Or if I had the money to burn I'd build a 3950X rig and run scientific apps on it like Folding@home and/or SETI@home. 
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