Subjunctive posted:

not all ML/AI systems are neural networks

Shame Boy posted:

I'm gonna go ahead and say that most ML/AI systems aren't neural networks and are in fact incredibly simple algorithms cobbled together and sold as a brand new data-driven advanced machine learning artificial intelligence solution. Like I know some of the ones deciding prison sentences are completely opaque because revealing how it works would be ~company trade secrets~, and if you don't even have to show anyone how it works you might as well put as little effort into it as possible. Why bother carefully curating a training set when you can just write a bunch of if statements?

Accretionist posted:

This is a good line.

And on that point...

Article: Computer Program That Calculates Prison Sentences Is Even More Racist Than Humans, Study Finds
Date: January 21, 2018

Hocus Pocus posted:

When I was still a teacher here, I asked GRIOT™, the most popular computer game at the Pahlavi Pavilion, what might have become of me after the war instead of what really happened. The way you play GRIOT™, of course, is to tell the computer the age and race and degree of education and present situation and drug use, if any, and so on of a person. The person doesn’t have to be real. The computer doesn’t ask if the person is real or not. It doesn’t care about anything. It especially doesn’t care about hurting people’s feelings. You load it up with details about a life, real or imagined, and then it spits out a story about what was likely to happen to him or her. This story is based on what has happened to real persons with the same general specifications.

GRIOT™ won’t work without certain pieces of information. If you leave out race, for instance, it flashes the words “ethnic origin” on its screen, and stops cold. If it doesn’t know that, it can’t go on. The same with education.
I didn’t tell GRIOT™ that I had landed a job I loved here. I told it only about my life up to the end of the Vietnam War. It knew all about the Vietnam War and the sorts of veterans it had produced. It made me a burned-out case, on the basis of my length of service over there, I think. It had me becoming a wife-beater and an alcoholic, and winding up all alone on Skid Row.

IF I HAD access to GRIOT™ now, I might ask it what might have happened to Marilyn Shaw if Sam Wakefield hadn’t rescued her. But the escaped convicts smashed up the one in the Pavilion soon after I showed them how to work it.

They hated it, and I didn’t blame them. I was immediately sorry that I had let them know of its existence. One by one they punched in their race and age and what their parents did, if they knew, and how long they’d gone to school and what drugs they’d taken and so on, and GRIOT™ sent them straight to jail to serve long sentences.

I HAVE NO idea how much GRIOT™ back then may have known about Vietnam nurses. The manufacturers claimed then as now that no program in stores was more than 3 months old, and so every program was right up-to-date about what had really happened to this or that sort of person at the time you bought it. The programmers, supposedly, were constantly updating GRIOT™ with the news of the day about plumbers, about podiatrists, about Vietnam boat people and Mexican wetbacks, about drug smugglers, about paraplegics, about everyone you could think of within the continental limits of the United States and Canada.

There is some question now, I’ve heard, about whether GRIOT™ is as deep and up-to-date as it used to be, since Parker Brothers, the company that makes it, has been taken over by Koreans. The new owners are moving the whole operation to Indonesia, where labor costs next to nothing. They say they will keep up with American news by satellite.

[...]

GRIOT™? IN THE old days anyway, before the Koreans promised to make Parker Brothers lean and mean in Indonesia, didn’t come up with the same biography every time you gave it a certain set of facts. Like life itself, it offered a variety of possibilities, spitting out endings according to what the odds for winning or losing or whatever were known to be.

After GRIOT™ put me on Skid Row 15 years ago, I had it try again. I did a little better, but not as well as I was doing here. It had me stay in the Army and become an instructor at West Point, but unhappy and bored. I lost my wife again, and still drank too much, and had a succession of woman friends who soon got sick of me and my depressions. And I died of cirrhosis of the liver a second time.

GRIOT™ DIDN’T HAVE many alternatives to jail for the escaped convicts, though. If it came up with a parole, it soon put the ex-con back in a cage again.

THE SAME THING happened if GRIOT™ was told that the jailbird was Hispanic. It was somewhat more optimistic about Whites, if they could read and write, and had never been in a mental hospital or been given a Dishonorable Discharge from the Armed Forces. Otherwise, they might as well be Black or Hispanic.

Top City Homo posted:

https://twitter.com/conner_omalley/status/1125861403393392644

Rarity posted:

Is this performance art?

Cowpocalypse posted:

seems like it would be faster and easier just to throw all black people in jail

Tashilicious posted:

its coke

Polo-Rican posted:

Posting my own tweet

https://twitter.com/vecchitto/status/1138958009378455552?s=19

This should be illegal

Accretionist posted:

This is a good line.

And on that point...

Article: Computer Program That Calculates Prison Sentences Is Even More Racist Than Humans, Study Finds
Date: January 21, 2018

Polo-Rican posted:

Posting my own tweet

https://twitter.com/vecchitto/status/1138958009378455552?s=19

This should be illegal

Taintrunner posted:

DiggityDoink posted:

Not only is the subject terrible but those are some godawful tattoos

Shame Boy posted:

Booking a flight to go see my relatives and it's always fun to see all the new and exciting ways they've figured out how to gently caress you. Like now United makes you pay extra for "overhead bin access"

Polo-Rican posted:

Posting my own tweet

https://twitter.com/vecchitto/status/1138958009378455552?s=19

This should be illegal

hobbesmaster posted:

if he’s being charged for overhead bin space he’s choosing a “basic fare” and flying domestically. there’s no food other than some cookies and only maybe

blame spirit for showing up on search engines cheaper than legacy carriers

quote:

Redress #

The Redress # is a unique number issued by the DHS (Department of Homeland Security) that is used to facilitate Passenger clearance for persons who have the same name as someone on the TSA (Transportation Security Administration) watch list.

Shame Boy posted:

Buying a flight now, I noticed a new field that wasn't there the last time I bought a flight


So the way they solved the infamous "literally the only thing we check is the name so everyone with that name is a terrorist" problem is... make everyone who is not the terrorist have to apply for and get a special number and enter it every time they travel. Great idea!

Chomp8645 posted:

imo it's pretty ironic that you're upset about TSA shenanigans while also automatically equating anyone on a watch list with "terrorist".

hobbesmaster posted:

Did you last fly over a decade ago? Redress numbers have been around since 2007.

hobbesmaster posted:

Did you last fly over a decade ago? Redress numbers have been around since 2007.

Eat This Glob posted:

i just booked an international flight last month and noticed "redress number" for the first time. I dont fly a ton, but I've flown domestically and internationally 10-ish times since 2007. i should note I am super inattentive and I may have noticed it before and even hit the question mark next to the "redress number" box before

Shame Boy posted:

Also I looked up the watchlist cuz I was curious what it was actually called officially (it's the TERRORIST SCREENING DATABASE of course) and found this excellent graphic the FBI made

Bert Roberge posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qku_7Sjy664

Shame Boy posted:

Also I looked up the watchlist cuz I was curious what it was actually called officially (it's the TERRORIST SCREENING DATABASE of course) and found this excellent graphic the FBI made

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

i'm the guy quantum leaping

Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

"Sam, you need to make sure Seth MacFarlane wakes up in time for his flight."

Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

"Sam, you need to make sure Seth MacFarlane wakes up in time for his flight."