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Xelkelvos posted:Is it just me or is it weird that these are all China Daily links? Sounds like you need some vocational training
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Jun 13, 2019 13:03
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Xelkelvos posted:Is it just me or is it weird that these are all China Daily links? this might be more your speed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ptcqDHvdXI
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Jun 13, 2019 13:03
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Xelkelvos posted:Is it just me or is it weird that these are all China Daily links? as i said, state media is a useful barometer of the state's line. unless you think the stories are pure fiction this means there is at least the knowledge of a correct approach and a desire to follow it, if only for appearance's sake. just like we can learn a lot from what corporate media chooses to cover and how it's framed, we can do the same with state outlets. china daily happens to be in english and easily collated, which is why i used them
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Jun 13, 2019 13:48
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:I don't buy that the We Love The Brits stuff is more than a very vocal minority. it reminds me of the very small part of the iranian opposition that wants the shah back. Basically weird hopeless reactionaries trying to hook onto a popular movement. You're probably right. The Western media loving loves these people though https://twitter.com/vicenews/status/1138202179477549056 https://twitter.com/Daily_Express/status/1138975128757395457
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Jun 13, 2019 13:52
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hahaha i bet the daily express loves that. getting all weepy at empire
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Jun 13, 2019 14:02
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ever since losing honkers -- what's left? the falklands and the tiny speck of pitcairn, where live the marooned descendants of the bounty mutineers!
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Jun 13, 2019 14:15
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:ever since losing honkers -- what's left? the falklands and the tiny speck of pitcairn, where live the marooned descendants of the bounty mutineers! The British virgin islands. Amusingly enough for Hong Kongers of a particular class.
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Jun 13, 2019 14:23
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R. Guyovich posted:unless you think the stories are pure fiction this means there is at least the knowledge of a correct approach and a desire to follow it, if only for appearance's sake. Fojar's Law
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Jun 13, 2019 14:49
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if they love the british so much why dont they move to britian colonized rear end old biddies
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Jun 13, 2019 16:00
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I don’t and those delusions can rot in an old colonial prison
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Jun 13, 2019 16:05
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:I can pretend to be Oklahoma bellingcat, cut and paste a bunch of images of buildings in Oklahoma, and then get my pet nonprofits to tell everyone that the United States has imprisoned 1/3rd of the African American population I would urge the comrade to be slightly more careful in choosing his analogues
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Jun 13, 2019 16:32
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no great loss with the guardian https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1139199756285222912
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Jun 13, 2019 16:56
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Jose posted:no great loss with the guardian blocking the intercept is pretty poo poo but I don’t really blame them for the rest of that list lol.
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Jun 13, 2019 17:14
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A Chinese online gambling worker's plight in Manilaquote:He’s gay and broke, and his family wants him to marry one of their neighbor’s daughters. Wei, not his real name, has had it with his life in conservative Yunnan, a province in China. quote:Wei said living in Manila has its pros and cons. He is able to afford clothes, eat good food, and afford an iPhone X – considered a status symbol. quote:Less cash than expected and more work hours have been bittersweet for Wei. quote:Lucio Pitlo, an expert on Chinese studies, said that the Chinese government “absolutely hates” gambling.
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Jun 13, 2019 17:21
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i can relate to the first four words of that article
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Jun 13, 2019 17:51
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LimburgLimbo posted:Yes there’s no possible way state mandated education could be a medium of cultural eradication. a lot of western countries have state mandated education, germany doesn't even allow homeschooling
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Jun 13, 2019 18:01
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:nation states are definitely dumb but not as dumb as city states when will Singapore build an upper plate above its public housing and finally complete its destiny of becoming the Midgar of the South Seas
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Jun 13, 2019 18:13
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FFVII but all the playable characters are Malay and sephiroth is Elizabeth ii
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Jun 13, 2019 18:42
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Venom Snake posted:a lot of western countries have state mandated education, germany doesn't even allow homeschooling Germany, obviously, is a superior country to the godless United States for this rule.
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Jun 13, 2019 18:48
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Xelkelvos posted:Is it just me or is it weird that these are all China Daily links? CD is literally run by the CPC so if you want to know what the state thinks about something, especially in China where information from the state is difficult to come by, they're a pretty safe bet, even if they're biased.
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Jun 13, 2019 19:10
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Lightning Knight posted:Germany, obviously, is a superior country to the godless United States for this rule. You meant the fundie country United States.
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Jun 13, 2019 19:15
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Grapplejack posted:CD is literally run by the CPC so if you want to know what the state thinks about something, especially in China where information from the state is difficult to come by, they're a pretty safe bet, even if they're biased. It lets you know what the state says not what the state thinks. there's a diifference
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Jun 13, 2019 19:16
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it's excerpts of statements and quotes. It's not like R Guy was posting an OpEd
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Jun 13, 2019 19:22
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tino posted:You meant the fundie country United States. it is a false god we follow, named capitalism.
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Jun 13, 2019 19:23
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R. Guyovich posted:if you read the full statement rather than the one selectively pruned by the new york times, it's pretty obvious that official was rejecting the premise of the question. The inhabitants of Xinjiang are rather ungrateful if you think about it
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Jun 14, 2019 00:47
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Typo posted:The inhabitants of Xinjiang are rather ungrateful if you think about it i've met someone who actually thinks this
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Jun 14, 2019 01:29
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Darkest Auer posted:Fojar's Law yeah that guy who predicts china's collapse every year is very reliable
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Jun 14, 2019 01:32
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R. Guyovich posted:as i said, state media is a useful barometer of the state's line. unless you think the stories are pure fiction this means there is at least the knowledge of a correct approach and a desire to follow it, if only for appearance's sake. So it demonstrates that the state knows that extrajudicial prison camps are bad, because they aren't bragging or admitting to the things hundreds of eyewitnesses have described. Publicly available local government documents also show bulk orders for things such as cattle prods, which is totally normal in a humane facility Vocational training is nice, but US prisons also teach classes and no one's trying to pretend they're schools. Also, what kind of an economic impact does the average low-income family face when their sole breadwinner is sent to prison for a year or two? Anyway, I apologize earlier for misinterpreting their "no such thing as re-education centers" statement as a denial of their existence
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Jun 14, 2019 01:34
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R. Guyovich posted:i've met someone who actually thinks this well the Uighurs gets affirmative action admission to universities and wasn't subjected to one-child policy. So it's actually other chinese who are being discriminated against
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Jun 14, 2019 01:37
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Typo posted:well the Uighurs gets affirmative action admission to universities and wasn't subjected to one-child policy. So it's actually other chinese who are being discriminated against so china really is like america
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Jun 14, 2019 01:40
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je1 healthcare posted:Publicly available local government documents also show bulk orders for things such as cattle prods, which is totally normal in a humane facility The document vox cited comes from claims made by a sketchy group in turkey whose only web presence is a facebook profile. They have never been made publicly available- AFP just claims that they examined them. You cannot see them for yourselves. Unlike the stories western media ran about "social credit" (which ended in favor of the "concentration camp" campaign) that linked to original source documents in mandarin which could plausibly be construed as supporting "social credit." The AFP ran that story once last year and it got picked up thousands of times in the western media as "original reporting" even though most sources just reposted the AFP story wholesale. Anyway have another picture of "pro-democracy" protestors in Hong Kong: 
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Jun 14, 2019 01:48
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:Anyway have another picture of "pro-democracy" protestors in Hong Kong: Yes please post a wide frame of the million march Sunday, and show us how many of those colonial flags you see. Oh and you can add in the union jack 
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Jun 14, 2019 02:54
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Venom Snake posted:a lot of western countries have state mandated education, germany doesn't even allow homeschooling Oh thank goodness, must be alright then. Everybody knows western nations are infallible and good.
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Jun 14, 2019 03:20
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:The document vox cited comes from claims made by a sketchy group in turkey whose only web presence is a facebook profile. They have never been made publicly available- AFP just claims that they examined them. You cannot see them for yourselves. Unlike the stories western media ran about "social credit" (which ended in favor of the "concentration camp" campaign) that linked to original source documents in mandarin which could plausibly be construed as supporting "social credit." AFP has a bit more web presence than a facebook profile. Would they lie about examining 1500 Chinese documents? You can ask the author of that AFP report if he made anything up, although he works for the NYT now Also the social credit stories never quite stopped, there's still articles being published about it every week. But they're somewhat muddled since China has multiple social credit systems limited to certain regions. je1 healthcare has issued a correction as of 03:50 on Jun 14, 2019 |
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Jun 14, 2019 03:47
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je1 healthcare posted:although he works for the NYT now that's not exactly an endorsement in cspam
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Jun 14, 2019 04:18
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LimburgLimbo posted:Oh thank goodness, must be alright then. Everybody knows western nations are infallible and good. Not the biggest fan of China, but I doubt mandatory schooling is the biggest evil here?
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Jun 14, 2019 08:48
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genericnick posted:Not the biggest fan of China, but I doubt mandatory schooling is the biggest evil here? Didn't the US and canada use mandatory schooling as one of their tools in the cultural and quite literal genocide against indian tribes?
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Jun 14, 2019 09:14
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"education can be used as a means of political indoctrination" is less a take and more a bare tautology without really considering what exactly it is that's being taught
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Jun 14, 2019 09:30
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Kurnugia posted:Didn't the US and canada use mandatory schooling as one of their tools in the cultural and quite literal genocide against indian tribes? in the context of those nations it was specifically children, not entire families. the idea was to take away the kids from the indian parents and basically raise the indian children as "white" as possible. no regard was given to what happened to the parents
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Jun 14, 2019 09:34
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je1 healthcare posted:AFP has a bit more web presence than a facebook profile. Would they lie about examining 1500 Chinese documents? You can ask the author of that AFP report if he made anything up, although he works for the NYT now yeah, and the link in the vox article leads to the afp homepage. so where is the original story? also the existence of a widespread security apparatus in xinjiang has never been contested. it follows that riot control weapons like the ones laid out in that seemingly inaccessible report would be purchased en masse.
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Jun 14, 2019 09:44
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