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Veev posted:Like RDM has verholy and verflare replace verfire and veraero when it's ready so that's two less buttons. They don't have tether anymore, and impact is an aoe ability now so you don't have 2 buttons that do the same thing. Similarly Dragoons have one combo starter now. Any other jobs in specific? Thanks! Yeah I was kind of interested in this but just across all jobs. I haven't played since around Stormblood release but I'm thinking about coming back and just interested in all the job changes. I've only played Dragoon, RDM, and AST so your post was helpful 
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Cabbit posted:I've just learned that BLM theorycrafters have come up with a triple Despair opener. What a time to be alive. What a coincidence, healers also have triple the despair.
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Got my eastern Red Mage done. Couldn't find a suitable weapon so I just kept the artifact.
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Cabbit posted:I've just learned that BLM theorycrafters have come up with a triple Despair opener. What a time to be alive. is it more than just replacing flare and which thunder you use in the aoe triple flare opener?
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CYBEReris posted:is it more than just replacing flare and which thunder you use in the aoe triple flare opener? I don't actually know what the AOE opener is and I can't find it in any of the guides, but looking at this I'm gonna say "maybe?". Here's what they've got: 
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Jun 13, 2019 03:30
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Radioactive Toy posted:Thanks! Yeah I was kind of interested in this but just across all jobs. I haven't played since around Stormblood release but I'm thinking about coming back and just interested in all the job changes. I've only played Dragoon, RDM, and AST so your post was helpful Best thing to do is YouTube search the job and shadowbringers and there’s loads of short videos detailing all their changes from the media tour. RDM also gets a new nuke to use after holy/flare and it replaces jolt so it’s not taking up a new slot either. Wish they had given BLM some of the same treatment, it’s a fair enough of buttons now to have within easy access.
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Trailer secrets: Hydaelyn is indeed a primal, but created out of the pure administrative accumen of Tataru.
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Cabbit posted:I don't actually know what the AOE opener is and I can't find it in any of the guides, but looking at this I'm gonna say "maybe?". Here's what they've got: This seems to assume that umbral hearts cut Despair's mana cost the same way they do Flare's, but the previewed tooltips still only mentioned Flare as to what spells get their cost cut by a third in addition to not suffering an AF-based cost increase. Of course, the tooltips could have themselves been wrong but we might not want to get ahead of ourselves here.
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Jimbot posted:Got my eastern Red Mage done. Couldn't find a suitable weapon so I just kept the artifact.
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Ferrinus posted:This seems to assume that umbral hearts cut Despair's mana cost the same way they do Flare's, but the previewed tooltips still only mentioned Flare as to what spells get their cost cut by a third in addition to not suffering an AF-based cost increase. Of course, the tooltips could have themselves been wrong but we might not want to get ahead of ourselves here. There's video confirmation from the media event that Umbral Hearts affect Despair, so it's all good.
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EponymousMrYar posted:Fortunately, Rowena has already expanded her empire all over the shards. Someone make an edit of Thanos saying he's inevitable but it's rowena with a glove full of tomestones.
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Oh dear, I just watched some videos on the changes for PLD and DRK and now my stalwart decision to continue WARing it up has been shaken. I'm just going to pretend the Squall class doesn't exist, 'cause it's probably awesome.
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Mister No posted:Oh dear, I just watched some videos on the changes for PLD and DRK and now my stalwart decision to continue WARing it up has been shaken. If it makes you feel better, since your tank stance is going away, the rumor is WAR is going to get something like a flat 15-25k extra HP to make up for it.
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im assuming there'll be numbers adjsutments because gunbreaker is currently pretty far behind the other tanks dps wise
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Does the "Path to 60" buff go away once I get a single job to 60?
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queeb posted:im assuming there'll be numbers adjsutments because gunbreaker is currently pretty far behind the other tanks dps wise It's ok they make up for it by being "cool as hell"
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I mean a good place to start for breaker is gnashing fangs continuation potency, they seem really low for what it is.
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Dimestore Merlin posted:Does the "Path to 60" buff go away once I get a single job to 60? No, you'll still have it for other sub-60 jobs. I think it even works for crafters and gatherers, but I'm not entirely sure. It's a really good buff.
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Zoig posted:I mean a good place to start for breaker is gnashing fangs continuation potency, they seem really low for what it is. The ST dot seems like the absolute worst offender, but yeah Gnashing Fang gaining some would probably be good.
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Zack Ater posted:I think it even works for crafters and gatherers, but I'm not entirely sure. It does. It's stupid good.
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Praetorium with four sprouts that were all wowfugees. drat. It feels pretty rare that there's a new player in a MSQ roulette, let alone multiple. This game's really popping off lately in my anecdotal experience.
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Jimbot posted:Got my eastern Red Mage done. Couldn't find a suitable weapon so I just kept the artifact. I would recommend the Mendacity weapon Shishio, which can be augmented to be dyeable. It's slightly curved at the tip and the crystal is a little lion thing, I think. Definitely eastern-inspired. keirharder posted:There’s an Allagan node shown in the video from the media tour exploring the crystarium which I’m guessing will have something to do with Rowena? I have to wonder if that's a placeholder model in the development build to prevent a story spoiler.
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Minrad posted:Praetorium with four sprouts that were all wowfugees. drat. It feels pretty rare that there's a new player in a MSQ roulette, let alone multiple. This game's really popping off lately in my anecdotal experience. Also anecdotal for the past month or two I've been seeing a lot of YouTube videos concerning WoW refugees coming to FFXIV (either testimonies or tips) in my recommendations.
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queeb posted:im assuming there'll be numbers adjsutments because gunbreaker is currently pretty far behind the other tanks dps wise There were some number changes in the E3 Titania build I think 
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Radioactive Toy posted:Is there a summary somewhere of the quality of life changes for jobs? I've only been able to find info about the machinist rework but not much else, though I've seen people talk about things like rdm losing an unnecessary ability. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkVi8X_8kdd5cDkZtvd5ZGnKM8bAj1mww
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Magil Zeal posted:Also anecdotal for the past month or two I've been seeing a lot of YouTube videos concerning WoW refugees coming to FFXIV (either testimonies or tips) in my recommendations. I've seen this bunch as well.
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Minrad posted:Praetorium with four sprouts that were all wowfugees. drat. It feels pretty rare that there's a new player in a MSQ roulette, let alone multiple. This game's really popping off lately in my anecdotal experience. I don’t know if this is from their new server jumping thing, but I’m also surprised I’m getting queues on Excal during the evenings. You’d think this would be when realm pops are the lowest and it’s still a queue, so either a good sign for the health of the game or something else.
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How can you tell someone is a WoW refugee? Doubt they get a custom title for it, so is it just the new way to refer to sprouts/people messing up mechanics?
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We're pretty much in the rush period following the lull, where in addition to new players joining in anticipation of the expansion people are trying to catch up on leveling and gearing whatever alt jobs they might want to try in Shadowbringers. I had a Marauder tank in Sastasha who didn't know how to pull with tomahawk or overpower and was thankful it was in an easy dungeon where that was annoying but never a critical issue Catgirl Al Capone fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Jun 13, 2019 |
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Ort posted:I don’t know if this is from their new server jumping thing, but I’m also surprised I’m getting queues on Excal during the evenings. You’d think this would be when realm pops are the lowest and it’s still a queue, so either a good sign for the health of the game or something else. The NA server survey that was done a few months ago showed fairly solid growth across all three data centers, which is surprising in a pre-expansion lull. I don't think the game's seeing exponential growth or that everyone in WoW is jumping ship, but it's definitely getting a boost from BfA's poor performance and the steady course that SE's kept over the past 6 years.
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Greader posted:How can you tell someone is a WoW refugee? Doubt they get a custom title for it, so is it just the new way to refer to sprouts/people messing up mechanics? It would be funny if FFXIV revamped the new player experience so they have a character, in game, ask you whether you come from another world. A world of warcraft, and tailor it to that. In the end you get a title or something
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Greader posted:How can you tell someone is a WoW refugee? Doubt they get a custom title for it, so is it just the new way to refer to sprouts/people messing up mechanics? Presumably they mention it in chat.
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Greader posted:How can you tell someone is a WoW refugee? Doubt they get a custom title for it, so is it just the new way to refer to sprouts/people messing up mechanics? they'll tell you
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e: ^ lol I'm a wowfugee myself, just coming up to (I'm really liking the game so far, by the way. The job system is great, and besides being fun as hell totally solves the ongoing conflict in WoW over how fast experience should be given to low-level players: Rather than giving out lots of experience and making the levelling experience incoherent, or giving out hardly any experience and making it awful to level alts, FFXIV just gives out lots of experience and says you can use it to level multiple classes if you want to. Speaking of which, having a coherent storyline while levelling rather than jumping randomly from zone to zone and doing maybe the first couple of zones of each expansion is also great. The crafting system is great. Having a rotation that actually changes as I level is great. Having level syncing in instances so they never get totally trivialised is great. The glamour system is great. I've only had positive interactions with the other players. And the endgame looks good too, with no titanforging and a really nice raid loot incentive system that encourages a middle tier of PUG between learning groups that are doomed to wipe and farming groups that require high ilvl and good Raider.IO scores.) e: Oh, and an auction house that actually works without spending ten seconds loading each page of ten results. Complete with dicks who've used an add-on to split their one stack of 99 bear asses into 99 stacks of 1 bear rear end and then batch-sold, so you need to either buy stuff bear rear end by individual bear rear end or spend literal minutes paging past all the time-wasters. (I suspect avoiding this is why FFXIV only lets you auction 40 items at once...) pumpinglemma fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Jun 13, 2019 |
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WoW as a new major patch coming out soon(probably around the same time Shadowbringers drops) and I realized one of the only things I was looking forward to in it was being able to grind out new reps so I'd be allowed to fly again. Made it real easy to stick with FFXIV.
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I sometimes worry I'm in some sort of "FFXIV bubble" because I enjoy the game so much, but then I hear horror stories from WoW vets and I feel better about my decision. e: I'd be curious to hear about the highs and lows of WoW over the years. I'd like to know what they've done in contrast to FFXIV to cause so much subscriber loss. It's almost mind boggling to think about how FFXIV started out as a total mess and now it's so successful. DizzyBum fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Jun 13, 2019 |
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Looking to get back into this after a 2~ year hiatus from around when Omega was new. What's the current fastest cool kids way to level up alternate jobs?
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DizzyBum posted:I sometimes worry I'm in some sort of "FFXIV bubble" because I enjoy the game so much, but then I hear horror stories from WoW vets and I feel better about my decision. The new WoW expansion hasn't been great. The new zones were really cool but the story has been awful, the gear progession is all messed up with the Azerite Traits which is weird because they had a good system figured out with the artifact weapons, and the devs until recently were really digging in their heels.
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My main complaints with wow right now are the story, and the endgame activities. Raiding isn't fun and they removed class sets so there's not even the vanity reason to play. M+ was balls hard at release and took forever, compared to legion where even the longest dungeon took maybe half an hour. Now the timers are basically assuming you have a rogue and invisibility potions to skip pulls, and also have lots of CC. What's that? Your class doesn't have cc? Sucks to be you. And they've leaned hard into "faction war" as a story which has mostly amounted to "One faction is openly evil, gets multiple victories. Other faction isn't explicitly good, only gets symbolic victories, if that. Actual big bad gloats about how stupid we are and should be working together against them."
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DizzyBum posted:I sometimes worry I'm in some sort of "FFXIV bubble" because I enjoy the game so much, but then I hear horror stories from WoW vets and I feel better about my decision. In addition to the above - WoW's combat is much snappier and more responsive, like meleeing targets on the move is far more reliable than in FFXIV and interrupts happen as soon as you hit the button (instead of there being a slight delay due to animation). Legion was pretty good overall but the latest expansion hasn't been great post-launch. The new world PvP flagging system is a good idea with decent rewards, and it's 100% opt-in, but the PvE side has struggled. Encounter designs have been fun. Loot hasn't been. The lore got weird (in a good way) for a minute with some of the leveling zones. That's tapered off due to the writers' obsession with bad characters (Nathanos in particular). Also, for folks looking for a bit of escapism, an inherently adversarial game in a phase that has re-emphasized conflict between players of different factions isn't a great idea right now. The upcoming patch should address some problems, especially w/r/t itemization. I still vastly prefer FFXIV.
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