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Trapick posted:As someone who has done both, call center is infinitely worse. Do the retail job. This, people are definitely more unrestrained on what they will say and do on the phone versus face to face
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PittTheElder posted:I'm curious to see what a concerted number of strikers could do with some non-violent traffic interference. It expect it would be easy to bring Calgary and Edmonton to a screeching halt by fouling up the major arteries at rush hour via some safe incompetence. Maybe instead of loving up other workers' days for no reason, you could stick to actual strike action (withdrawing your labor). 
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DariusLikewise posted:This, people are definitely more unrestrained on what they will say and do on the phone versus face to face
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How would you be able to tell the difference between Deerfoot (hosed up by incompetence on purpose) and Deerfoot (hosed up by incompetence unintentionally), the latter of which is a daily occurrence already anyway? The poo poo that you'd do on purpose would pale in comparison to the things the average narcissistic Calgarian rear end in a top hat does as a matter of course, because doing things intentionally would mean you recognize the consequences of your actions, precluding an entire category of heinously unsafe traffic-clogging behaviour which occurs daily with no political motivation behind it.
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Trapick posted:Yep, plus the ability to move around is really really huge. At a call centre job you are effectively shackled to your desk. Go for retail somewhere like home depot, the pay will be equally poo poo and customers are terrible regardless, but at least you can move around/get outside once in a while. Depending on what kind of a premium you put on that, consider ramping at an airport, provided you're not disabled. The pay isn't terrible and you get wicked travel benefits. Everyone I know who does it seems pretty happy. It's hard work, but if you don't mind that, it seems decent enough and you don't have to deal with customers face-to-face.
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PT6A posted:How would you be able to tell the difference between Deerfoot (hosed up by incompetence on purpose) and Deerfoot (hosed up by incompetence unintentionally), the latter of which is a daily occurrence already anyway? Well that would be exactly the point, I imagine the difference would be duration. You could gently caress up nearly every business in the city in a way that you could never prove was any particular union or individual. Small business owners would blame unions for it, but they already do that for everything anyway.
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Does anyone have suggestions for books or essays that are pro-pipeline/pro-resource extraction/pro-free market capitalism despite climate change? I don't mean dumb /r/ancap type stuff. I mean what the Conservative & neoliberal policymakers and bureaucrats are reading to inform/legitimize their politics. Context: Just got a grant for a regional conference and its kernel is the intersections of anti-poverty, Reconciliation, and environmental justice in the North. The BCTF has an inclination towards bumper sticker activism but I don't want to tilt at windmills -- the topic is too important.
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Baronjutter posted:Dignity and an empty cardboard box is worth the cardboard box. He said, having never lived in a cardboard box
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Jan posted:As someone who has done both, at least with tech support you can roll your eyes, flip the bird and otherwise treat your impatient, demanding customers with the respect they actually deserve while maintaining a straight, polite voice. Helps with sanity. My voice is sadly still something I'm working on, so yeah that's a concern. I might get misgendered wherever I go, I don't know.
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just another posted:Does anyone have suggestions for books or essays that are pro-pipeline/pro-resource extraction/pro-free market capitalism despite climate change? Go down the Steven Pinker rabbit hole quote:How, then, should we deal with climate change? Deal with it we must. I agree with the climate justice warriors that preventing climate change is a moral issue because it has the potential to harm billions, particularly the world’s poor. But morality is different from moralizing, and is often poorly served by it. It may be satisfying to demonize fossil fuel corporations, but that won’t prevent destructive climate change. https://thebreakthrough.org/journal/no.-8-winter-2018/enlightenment-environmentalism
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Legit if you are qualified to work in retail, you are qualified to drive a bus. Bus drivers are one of the few entry level no-skill jobs that are still unionized and come with decent pay and benefits. All the training is provided and paid for.
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sitchensis posted:Legit if you are qualified to work in retail, you are qualified to drive a bus. Bus drivers are one of the few entry level no-skill jobs that are still unionized and come with decent pay and benefits. All the training is provided and paid for. Sadly I cannot drive for medical reasons. If I showed up at the Ministry of Transportation I know they'd need at least two, if not three medical clearances before they let me anywhere near a wheel.
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ChickenWing posted:He said, having never lived in a cardboard box I think you got the reverse meaning from this. Someone needs to brush up on their rules of acquisition. (the point is that dignity has no monetary value and thus you can't sleep in it or eat it)
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vyelkin posted:I'm betting on "We'll invest in the clean energy of the future--the tar sands!" Rebrand the tar sands once again. The "oil sands" will now be the "energy sands".
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Job Sands. Prosperity Sands. Not left, not right, Forward Sands.
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Baronjutter posted:Not left, not right, Forward Sands. 
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TerminalSaint posted:Rebrand the tar sands once again. The "oil sands" will now be the "energy sands". There's nothing wrong with sand that comes from Alberta's industrious and innovative Silicon Plains.
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conservatives are very smrt https://twitter.com/SarahFischerDVN/status/1138979368993206273 (This is a CPC candidate in Toronto)
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Having disposable containers for water is dumb as gently caress whether it's a drinkbox or a bottle, gently caress sake we've had reusable vessels for this poo poo since antiquity.
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Kibayasu posted:I’ve never been sure if it’s better for them to let them do the 5 minute speech they’ve been told to make to everyone or just tell them I’m not interested immediately. Are their metrics better if they get to call more people or if they get to do their entire pitch even if it doesn’t result in anything. Just trying to help out a fellow capitalist drone here As somebody who's done telemarketing due to living in Montreal while being an anglophone, I prefer somebody who listens the the spiel first before telling me that they're not interested and hanging up. Baronjutter posted:Like, does that work on some people? Yell at them, say they are being rude, demand they let you "hear them out" and then get a sale from it? Oh, you would definitely be surprised. There was this one lady I remember from a job who averaged either double or triple the amount of sales as the next highest seller, and she was an absolute psycho on the phone. You could hear her yelling from across the room, saying things to people like "I thought you were a person of your word, are you a liar?" If the client didn't do what they were asked by a certain time. Gorewar fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jun 14, 2019 |
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Yeah I don't know why the response couldn't be "we use glass, actually" aside from it being untrue since it wasn't his answer. I first saw that water box weirdness provided to me by a coworker completely branded in Scheer, with like some rolleyes clip at the end. It was cringe worthy for like every reason imaginable.
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Arivia posted:My voice is sadly still something I'm working on, so yeah that's a concern. I'm doing phone tech support in Toronto right now. It's honestly not that bad work, although it is dealing with Americans all day and it's about 50/50 whether I get misgendered. If you can get a better job, do that, but if you need something to get you by, could do far worse.
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Yellow Ant posted:
She's obviously lacking in experience when it comes to liquid in her box.
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I've been rocking the same Nalgene for like 10 years now, and only got rid of the one before that due to the BPA thing. poo poo's really not rocket surgery.
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EvilJoven posted:She's obviously lacking in experience when it comes to liquid in her box.
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A bit late on telemarketer discussion... Why not take the easy way, and configure your voip modem to forward all calls that start with 1-800 or 1-866 or 011 - 1-800 to your favourite mpp of choice? If they pass through your defences by use of a local number as a hub, ask them "sorry - I cannot hear you... can you callback in 2 minutes?" then add their number to your wildcard string... Guigui fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Jun 14, 2019 |
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Guigui posted:A bit late on telemarketer discussion... Why not take the easy way, and configure your voip modem to forward all calls that start with 1-800 or 1-866 or 011 - 1-800 to your favourite mpp of choice? ...I like it.
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Guigui posted:A bit late on telemarketer discussion... Why not take the easy way, and configure your voip modem to forward all calls that start with 1-800 or 1-866 or 011 - 1-800 to your favourite mpp of choice? Almost all spam calls now are spoofed robot poo poo. Ni hao! Blocking or redirecting the number does nothing except give you a tiny chance of blocking a legit call from the real owner of that number in the future. I don't think I've been called by an actual real call center number in years. Just never pick up the phone for unknown numbers unless you are actually expecting to hear from unknown numbers. Every pickup is a confirmation your number is live. Anyone real will just leave a message and you can get back to them in a few minutes.
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The Butcher posted:Anyone real will just leave a message and you can get back to them in a few minutes. Lol as if anyone leaves a message these days, or listens to their messages.
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PT6A posted:Lol as if anyone leaves a message these days, or listens to their messages. For professional stuff, yeah you do still use them. Your friends aren't going to leave you VMs, but for work stuff you need to do them as part of the CYA to be like "whelp, we did our part at exact {timestamp} but PT6A didn't pick up, so the ball is in his court now to get back to us.
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sitchensis posted:Legit if you are qualified to work in retail, you are qualified to drive a bus. Bus drivers are one of the few entry level no-skill jobs that are still unionized and come with decent pay and benefits. All the training is provided and paid for. Posties and LCBO whatevers-they're-called are treated well too, and if you're a labourer on a jobsite and you're not trying to learn a subtrade from one of the guys working there, what are you even doing.
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flakeloaf posted:Posties and LCBO whatevers-they're-called are treated well too, and if you're a labourer on a jobsite and you're not trying to learn a subtrade from one of the guys working there, what are you even doing. Bumming smokes? Hollering at hot chicks?
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Wistful of Dollars posted:
A land speculation scam based in Calgary??? Well, I never... A distant relative of mine was a Calgary developer during the initial land grab in the early 1900s. He did actually deliver houses, but there's a minor detail that the subdivision is on the confluence of the Bow and Elbow rivers. :surfsup: Census list him as a contractor for twenty years, the same period he was also the city's Director of Public Works. For some reason he died a very rich man.
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