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reformism is a means to revolution when the reforms prove insufficient or are thwarted. its a way of waking up the Sheeple
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# ? May 26, 2024 16:04 |
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I'm going to vote for Bernie if he's losing and otherwise not vote because my goal is for Biden to win as narrowly as possible
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 20:57 |
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Jewel Repetition posted:You're the one who brought up Democratic primary candidate preferences your mind inhabits a strange world
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 21:01 |
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GalacticAcid posted:your mind inhabits a strange world That's gaslighting
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 21:05 |
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gaslighting owns tbh
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 21:06 |
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only a loving idiot wouldnt like being gaslit
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 21:06 |
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freckle posted:only a loving idiot wouldnt like being gaslit Everyone who complains about being gaslit is a woman so this is correct
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 21:16 |
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https://twitter.com/AdamPr0ct0r/status/1139197494829756416
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 01:22 |
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Jewel Repetition posted:Who's your preferred Dem candidate Jughashvili
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 01:26 |
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never listened to those pods but not reading the book before you write the review is a time-honored hack tradition ala orwell's "confessions of a book reviewer."quote:Needless to say this person is a writer. He might be a poet, a novelist, or a writer of film scripts or radio features, for all literary people are very much alike, but let us say that he is a book reviewer. Half hidden among the pile of papers is a bulky parcel containing five volumes which his editor has sent with a note suggesting that they "ought to go well together". They arrived four days ago, but for 48 hours the reviewer was prevented by moral paralysis from opening the parcel. Yesterday in a resolute moment he ripped the string off it and found the five volumes to be PALESTINE AT THE CROSS ROADS, SCIENTIFIC DAIRY FARMING, A SHORT HISTORY OF EUROPEAN DEMOCRACY (this one is 680 pages and weighs four pounds), TRIBAL CUSTOMS IN PORTUGUESE EAST AFRICA, and a novel, IT'S NICER LYING DOWN, probably included by mistake. His review--800 words, say--has got to be "in" by midday tomorrow.
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 01:34 |
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i never listened to their pod, aimee is just one of the most insufferable dirtbag left luminaries
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 01:38 |
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smarxist posted:i never listened to their pod, aimee is just one of the most insufferable dirtbag left luminaries there is no way this person telling people to marxistly judge a book by its cover is real, right
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 01:43 |
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smarxist posted:i never listened to their pod, aimee is just one of the most insufferable dirtbag left luminaries so you feel comfortable passing judgement on her without having listened to her podcasts back to front? hmm
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 01:45 |
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Not reading is workingclass. Listening to podcasts and being gay with your dad is workingclass.
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 01:46 |
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incredible hypocrisy here in the lf thread but i’m not surprised you’d all denigrate a noble podcaster before seriously engaging with their work
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 01:46 |
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smarxist posted:i never listened to their pod, aimee is just one of the most insufferable dirtbag left luminaries quote:What [Hegel] calls "negativity" can also be couched in terms of insight and blindness, as the "positive" power of "blindness", of blinding oneself to most of the features of the object, of reducing it to its constitutive key aspects. The greatest power of our mind is not to see more, but to see less in a correct way, to reduce reality to its notional determinations - only such "blindness" generates the insight into what things really are. PRESIDENT LADYCOP fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jun 14, 2019 |
# ? Jun 14, 2019 01:50 |
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dear mr. president, there are too many pods these days. please eliminate three.
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 01:51 |
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p.s. i am not a crackpot. but i can understand why some haters would get that impression as my current pod diet consists entirely of radio war nerd and the tom & don show, with sporadic rallies into the age of napoleon
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 01:52 |
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I knew those one week fifteen page papers I wrote after reading The Philosophy of History and Marxism and Philosophy were seminal works but didn’t know how to express it until now. thank u comrade
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 01:56 |
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Bernie Sanders posted:Should America go communist as a result of the difficulties and problems that your capitalist social order is unable to solve, it will discover that communism, far from being an intolerable bureaucratic tyranny and individual regimentation, will be the means of greater individual liberty and shared abundance. really loving bernies speech
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 02:25 |
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Permanent Reform
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 02:31 |
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GalacticAcid posted:Permanent Reform Reform in One Country
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 02:54 |
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https://twitter.com/DeadIrishRebel/status/1139353229903441921
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 04:01 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:
ah yes, the popular front, the strategy that has brought us such victories as uh
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 12:08 |
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I personally feel like I have no ability to predict what the implications of a sanders presidency would mean in the long term for struggle but I imagine it will probably make material conditions better in the short-medium term and that's not a bad thing but I also doubt it's really going to meaningfully solve the core contradictions of american capitalism hell, it wouldnt surprise me if those material conditions don't end up improving all that much either, but it's not like I think there's anyone we can expect better from in electoral terms either. the forces of american capitalism are so deeply entrenched and I think that he is going to face a lot of friction accomplishing anything in terms of policy. this is why I prefer never to think about electoralism, it is depressing and mostly out of anyone's hands because these systems are basically designed to demobilize people
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 12:12 |
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smarxist posted:i never listened to their pod, aimee is just one of the most insufferable dirtbag left luminaries Albert Einstein posted:Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking.
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 13:04 |
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Mr. Lobe posted:ah yes, the popular front, the strategy that has brought us such victories as World war 2
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 13:09 |
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Mr. Lobe posted:ah yes, the popular front, the strategy that has brought us such victories as the People's Republic of China?
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 13:14 |
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neither of those things were really popular fronts. every single actual political Popular Front that has historically tried to win an electoral victory in coalition with libs and fiscal conservatives or whatever has been a either catastrophic prelude to the rise of an overwhelming fascist alternative or a tepid useless government dominated by Liberal positivists who try to implement stupid small-scale reforms and end up re entrenching capitalism like the best possible result from cooperating with Liberals within a representative democracy is reinscribing the insane deliberative centrist discourse of neoliberalism, and the worst is Literally Petain
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 15:12 |
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the great thinker Abdullah Ocalan understood that an organic statelike entity with socialist characteristics can only emerge through a consensus based people’s struggle and also the immediate destruction of Turkey
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 15:13 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:the People's Republic of China? pretty bad example because it was precisely the popular front strategy that led to the failure of the 1925 revolution and the chinese communists losing almost all base of support in the urban centers when the kuomintang betrayed them and massacred the workers of shanghai
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 16:38 |
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Let he who has actually red Kapital front to back cast the first stone
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 16:42 |
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my experience from trying to read capital is that it is the most complicated guide on how to make a shirt from a roll of fabric you will ever find
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 16:43 |
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the reason popular fronts dont work is because the strategy specifically calls on the communists to basically take up the demands and program of the liberals. its not exactly liquidationist but they dont raise revolutionary consciousness. its fine to work together with liberals and social democrats to oppose the right, but doing so in a way that raises a clearly socialist political pole of attraction. thats the difference between the popular or peoples front and the united front. the united front has socialists work together with the liberals and social democrats but continue to argue their own politics and raise specifically socialist demands
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 16:43 |
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apropos to nothing posted:the reason popular fronts dont work is because the strategy specifically calls on the communists to basically take up the demands and program of the liberals. its not exactly liquidationist but they dont raise revolutionary consciousness. its fine to work together with liberals and social democrats to oppose the right, but doing so in a way that raises a clearly socialist political pole of attraction. thats the difference between the popular or peoples front and the united front. the united front has socialists work together with the liberals and social democrats but continue to argue their own politics and raise specifically socialist demands Which type of front is the DSA
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 16:46 |
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The Ultimate Doge posted:Which type of front is the DSA Not a popular one.
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 16:48 |
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a good modern day example I think is the CPUSA. heres an article on impeachment from a few years ago: https://www.cpusa.org/article/does-getting-rid-of-trump-matter/ it doesnt specifically lay out demands or tactics for achieving the impeachment of trump, just makes the argument that the desire for impeachment is rooted in a mass outrage and pressure from below on the democratic party. specifically "At every step of the process, the public perception (and the perception of the ruling class) must be that the investigation of the Trump regime represents a response to grassroots political pressure—not simply a factional struggle within the capitalist class." but thats not what the case has been or was even back then, the case for impeachment has been overwhelmingly made by establishment democrats as a way to ignore movements around mass demands like $15 an hour, or end to the mass deportations, and has been rooted in nationalistic language around russian collusion and foreign powers tampering in elections. its telling that the CPUSA website has no articles, that I can find anyway, on the airport shutdowns and the mass protests that led to the deportation orders to be stopped back in 2017. thats the approach that socialists should be arguing for and using examples currently happening as a point of reference for the broader working class to orient around. its a good example of how the popular front fails in practice. going on the CPUSA website is there much in the way of real demands that point forward to immediate next steps for the labor movement? they have an article calling for the abolishment of the electoral college, something that may have support by many but theres no mass movement to win, and a short article on the abortion bills passed in some states where they push a planned parenthood petition. there's no independent socialist political approach or demands presented, basically just a tailing of the democrats. this is the result of the popular front method, basically just tailing the workers rather than trying to present a political program which helps elevate struggle to a revolutionary and winning approach. or sudan where the communist party has enetered coalition with the other opposition forces. thats good but when the recent 3 day general strike happened there were no demands. not even to end the transitional military council. the strike is good, but the majority of the country supports the protests now and the call for a strike was popular, but what effect does the strike have if its not to mobilize the workers to win something. the reason this demand didnt factor in is because the opposition was still trying to broker a deal with the generals to step down peacably and transfer power, something that will never happen and the communists should know this better than anyone. they support the transfer of power "to the people" but wont organize or call for the strikes to take on the approach of striking to bring down the government, or begin to organize defense councils among the neighborhood councils and rank and file soldiers to protect the revolution.
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 17:05 |
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apropos to nothing posted:the reason popular fronts dont work is because the strategy specifically calls on the communists to basically take up the demands and program of the liberals. its not exactly liquidationist but they dont raise revolutionary consciousness. its fine to work together with liberals and social democrats to oppose the right, but doing so in a way that raises a clearly socialist political pole of attraction. thats the difference between the popular or peoples front and the united front. the united front has socialists work together with the liberals and social democrats but continue to argue their own politics and raise specifically socialist demands what i'm wondering is how you fit something like venezuela's "great patriotic pole" into this because this includes social democrats -- a kind of popular front orientation. it has its complications in many ways of course but it's hard to see how it would've survived as long as it has considering the siege it's under
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 17:09 |
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apropos to nothing posted:its telling that the CPUSA website has no articles, that I can find anyway, on the airport shutdowns and the mass protests that led to the deportation orders to be stopped back in 2017. thats the approach that socialists should be arguing for and using examples currently happening as a point of reference for the broader working class to orient around. i have been literally screaming for everyone to go back to the airports for over a year
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# ? Jun 14, 2019 17:11 |
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smarxist posted:i have been literally screaming for everyone to go back to the airports for over a year David Harvey correctly identified that airports are a locus of capitalism and is one of the key places that you can apply unbearable pressure towards even with relatively little effort
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