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Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

He's been in a whole bunch of stuff I've watched over the years but mostly I remember him as voicing Lex Luthor in Superman The Animated Series and later Justice League.

"President. Do you have any idea how much power I'd have to give up to be President?"

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Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Clancy Brown played a pedo priest-demon anti-christ in Carnivale. He was perfect.

PhotoKirk
Jul 2, 2007

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Moon Slayer posted:

He's been in a whole bunch of stuff I've watched over the years but mostly I remember him as voicing Lex Luthor in Superman The Animated Series and later Justice League.

"President. Do you have any idea how much power I'd have to give up to be President?"

He was absolutely perfect as Rawhide in Buckaroo Banzai.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Iron Crowned posted:

The weird thing is, the farther back in time you go, the more you'll realize that quality standards have always been lacking.

Oh yea, we only remember the good stuff, never the crap. That's the problem with uncritical nostalgia. Every time someone says "I miss X, because everything was better" I think of what bullshit that is, there was so much crap in the past, as much as today.

PhotoKirk
Jul 2, 2007

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Iron Crowned posted:

Here's how you can tell them apart: Cracker owns, Uncle Cracker does not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8nDxFP5LzM

root beer
Nov 13, 2005

twistedmentat posted:

Oh yea, we only remember the good stuff, never the crap. That's the problem with uncritical nostalgia. Every time someone says "I miss X, because everything was better" I think of what bullshit that is, there was so much crap in the past, as much as today.

Ugh, all the YouTube comments that amount to “heh this is from back when they made REAL cartoons/tv shows/music/porn/cereal”. Everything was poo poo, everything is poo poo, everything will forever be poo poo.

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Mu Zeta posted:

Clancy Brown played a pedo priest-demon anti-christ in Carnivale. He was perfect.

He wasn't a nonce. He made a nonce kill himself through.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Didn't he gently caress those kids in China Town

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

FilthyImp posted:

The GTA: San Andreas joke about it will never get stale

"WHAT DO YOU CALL A GROUP OF 4 BROTHERS WHERE ONLY ONE OF THEM CAN SING? NEW JACK SWING!"

This one’s better:

“WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MIX GOSPEL, SYNTHESIZERS, AND A BARBERSHOP QUARTET WITH GUNS AND DRUGS? NEW JACK SWING!”

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Mu Zeta posted:

I must have watched over 100 episodes of the 90s Ninja Turtles cartoon but I can't recall the plot of a single episode. Guys, I think cartoons back then were trash. Except for Batman TAS.

I remember one where they went to Niagara Falls, and someone was about to be swept over the falls. Being from that city, I noticed a few factual errors such as the total lack of development along the river/around that falls. And also the fact that I was pretty sure the falls themselves couldn't be turned off by just turning one valve, despite how it was depicted in the cartoon.

root beer
Nov 13, 2005

You Are A Elf posted:

This one’s better:

“WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MIX GOSPEL, SYNTHESIZERS, AND A BARBERSHOP QUARTET WITH GUNS AND DRUGS? NEW JACK SWING!”

Is that supposed to deter me from thinking New Jack Swing is dope?

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

Every swing can be a new jack swing if you don't care about getting arrested for public indecency.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

KHLAV KALASHNIKOV posted:

Ugh, all the YouTube comments that amount to “heh this is from back when they made REAL cartoons/tv shows/music/porn/cereal”. Everything was poo poo, everything is poo poo, everything will forever be poo poo.

yea, 99% is poo poo, but that 1% is good and will be remembered forever. There were guys in my high school that were best discribed as the "classic rock kids" and they'd go on and on about how real music was from the 60s and 70s, that everything was great and everyone wrote their own songs, I don't think they looked too hard into it.

What is considered the song that kicked off New Jack Swing? If I had to guess, it would be Poison by Bell Biv Devoe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb2np1HGqxg

Though clearly Boys II Men were there kings that never were really topped. They even had the guy who does nothing but the "Girl, i never meant ot hurt you, I just was in bed with your sister and her roommate because we were rehearsing a play" parts of a song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rciee-oQLoI

My sister was so desprate to get a copy of Motown Philly she recordered it off the tv by putting one of those radios with a mic up to the tv when they were preforming on an awards show.

Again, I am reminded of a lot of music being promoted by their region, like we had the obvious east coast/west coast rap styles, but there was a lot of talk about Quad City DJs but the Quad Cities in the name was not like some major cities, like one was from Miami, one was from New York, one was from Chicago and one was from LA, nope it was like some rust belt mid western towns.

That leads into the next thing I remember, there were a lot of daily video countdown shows. At least 3 i remember on tv where I was in the 90s. Muchmusic/MTV must have either not been available on basic cable or maybe they thought they could get good ratings with daily rather than weekly shows. Thing is they'd show snippits of the videos because these shows were only an hour or less, and you can't show 20 or 30 videos in that time, so only a handful were shown in their completeness. I don't think they lasted very long because there's only so many times you can see the same videos over and over, and they were all done by phone voting, so they expected kids to call in and vote for their favorites, rather than like, looking at sales numbers or airplay or any other statistics.

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Imagined
Feb 2, 2007
I'm pretty sure New Jack Swing started with Morris Day and the Time (the band who weren't Prince & the Revolution in 'Purple Rain')

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Imagined posted:

I'm pretty sure New Jack Swing started with Morris Day and the Time (the band who weren't Prince & the Revolution in 'Purple Rain')

Oh I know them, thought i can see New Jack Swing coming out of 80s style funk.

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

twistedmentat posted:

What is considered the song that kicked off New Jack Swing? If I had to guess, it would be Poison by Bell Biv Devoe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb2np1HGqxg

The earliest song I think of that had the "true" New Jack Swing sound is Keith Sweat's "I Want Her" from 1987. Teddy Riley starting the whole thing off with this track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XqKRipnNSk

"Poison" is from 1990. NJS was already in full effect by then. And yeah, Morris Day & the Time had a hand in shaping NJS, but I really think Timex Social Club and Club Nouveau (essentially the same band with different names. Timex Social Club broke up and reformed as Club Nouveau) influenced Riley into polishing that sound. Both songs are from 1986.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHpc8zsEunQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=injFSJRyxJw

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007
Wikipedia says it started with Janet Jackson's Control (e.g. "Nasty"), which was produced by the Time, Jimmy Jam, and Terry Lewis.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


In another thread, somebody linked this music video that I fell in love with back in the day, but I’ve forgot that it was a thing that exists for like 10-15 years.

I was gonna rush here and post it, then I checked Wikipedia and it came out in 2001...
:argh:

But gently caress it, this owns so much:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDIYvFmgW8

Could’ve sworn this was late 90’s...can we make this an honorary 90’s music video?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Can I say that the video for Praise You is one of the most overrated video of the 90s? Its not clever, its just boring and annoying. It's the 12oz Mouse of Music Videos.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


twistedmentat posted:

Can I say that the video for Praise You is one of the most overrated video of the 90s? Its not clever, its just boring and annoying. It's the 12oz Mouse of Music Videos.

That’s why I’m confused. That song was 99 and I absolutely hate it. But weapon of choice owns.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Cartoon Man posted:

That’s why I’m confused. That song was 99 and I absolutely hate it. But weapon of choice owns.

Yea, that's my second favorite Fatboy Slim Song, after Rockafella Skank.

It was in literally every romantic comedy trailer for the next few years until Hey Ya came out and replaced it.

When can we start an early 2000s thread? There's a lot of stupid from that era that is good for comedy, also the stark difference between pre 9/11 and post 9/11. Maybe next year?

root beer
Nov 13, 2005

I’d be down for that, the years immediately preceding and following 9/11 are for sure some real weird ones, from so many aesthetic and cultural standpoints. Just about everything from ‘98 to about ‘04-ish was so aggressively hideous and dumb and awful to me so naturally I find it really fascinating to look back on it.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Yea, everything was rude and gross and in your face screaming and just full of the guys who'd beat the poo poo out of you in high school getting their own shows. Where people self self identified as Assholes and think that was a personality.

Lester Shy
May 1, 2002

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!
VH1's I Love The New Millennium premiered in 2008, so we're about 11 years behind.

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

twistedmentat posted:

Yea, everything was rude and gross and in your face screaming and just full of the guys who'd beat the poo poo out of you in high school getting their own shows. Where people self self identified as Assholes and think that was a personality.

The era of a hit radio song with the chanted chorus I. HATE. EVERYTHING. ABOUUUUT YOU

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

KHLAV KALASHNIKOV posted:

I’d be down for that, the years immediately preceding and following 9/11 are for sure some real weird ones, from so many aesthetic and cultural standpoints. Just about everything from ‘98 to about ‘04-ish was so aggressively hideous and dumb and awful to me so naturally I find it really fascinating to look back on it.

Ocean's 11 was fun.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

jojoinnit posted:

The era of a hit radio song with the chanted chorus I. HATE. EVERYTHING. ABOUUUUT YOU

That one's very much a 1992 thing though.

root beer
Nov 13, 2005

Mu Zeta posted:

Ocean's 11 was fun.

Okay yeah I was being a bit harsh, and yeah, Ocean’s 11 was way better than I expected it to be

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

Trabant posted:

That one's very much a 1992 thing though.

The literal one, not grunge: https://youtu.be/d8ekz_CSBVghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ekz_CSBVg

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Yes to an early 2000s thread!

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Do mods have to make threads in pyf or can anyone do it? If anyone i can probably make one in the near future.

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️
You can make one. If it survives depends on many factors.

Siselmo
Jun 16, 2013

hey there
As an aughts kid. I would love a thread about the crazyness of the early 2000's.

I have so many memories about my mother obsessing over 24, and being a kid during the end of the era of Mexican telenovelas aimed at kids. Yes, that was a thing.

Siselmo
Jun 16, 2013

hey there
Quote is not edit. Whoops.

root beer
Nov 13, 2005

Siselmo posted:

the era of Mexican telenovelas aimed at kids. Yes, that was a thing.

When this thread is made, you need to explain this.

Siselmo
Jun 16, 2013

hey there

KHLAV KALASHNIKOV posted:

When this thread is made, you need to explain this.

Without going into too much detail (yet), it was a thing because both cable tv (which had Nickelodeon, CN, Fox Kids, etc.) and the internet weren't available (or affordable) for most Mexican families until the mid 2000's (I had cable in 1999 and internet in 2004, and back then I was considered lucky among my classmates).

Televisa (which was available to anyone with a TV even if they didn't have a cable plan), being the largest telenovela producer, saw a market opportunity in the late 90's and early 2000's and made telenovelas for kids starring child and preteen actors. It was a huge deal back then (mainly for young girls). They were a thing before that, but the height of production and popularity was this period.

Will share clips and more info if the 2000's thread is ever made.

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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Yeah it was totally a "we can be Spanish Disney Tv" in the vein of stuff like Wizards of Waverly Place.

Mainstream Telenovelas vary wildly in tone and content. For all the steamy "wealthy ranch heiress is torn between the low-born stud and the rich but kind of bad-boy rival" and "working class beauty Pretty Woman's herself into luxury" takes, you get more lighthearted fare like Ugly Betty.
You also had semi-fantastical kid-centric shows like Luz Clarita or Carita de Angel that proved you could lock in kids since their parents would be taking over the Tv for 3 hours anyway.

My fave is probably Clase 406 because it goes batshit loco. Then maybe Chica Vampiro but that's a pretty recent production.

Siselmo posted:

the end of the era of Mexican telenovelas aimed at kids.
Rebelde (aka RBD) was huge bullshit because it took all the cool kids from Clase 406 and turned them into twee prepschool poppunk rock stars :argh:

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Siselmo
Jun 16, 2013

hey there

FilthyImp posted:

Yeah it was totally a "we can be Spanish Disney Tv" in the vein of stuff like Wizards of Waverly Place.

Mainstream Telenovelas vary wildly in tone and content. For all the steamy "wealthy ranch heiress is torn between the low-born stud and the rich but kind of bad-boy rival" and "working class beauty Pretty Woman's herself into luxury" takes, you get more lighthearted fare like Ugly Betty.
You also had semi-fantastical kid-centric shows like Luz Clarita or Carita de Angel that proved you could lock in kids since their parents would be taking over the Tv for 3 hours anyway.

My fave is probably Clase 406 because it goes batshit loco. Then maybe Chica Vampiro but that's a pretty recent production.

Rebelde (aka RBD) was huge bullshit because it took all the cool kids from Clase 406 and turned them into twee prepschool poppunk rock stars :argh:

I was totally one of those "I'm not like other girls, I hate girly stuff" 12-year-old, so I intentionally avoided most them. I did watch Aventuras en el Tiempo, Amigos por Siempre, and Cómplices al Rescate (basically the Belinda era. I remember my friends losing their poo poo, when she left in the middle of Cómplices and was replaced with Daniela Luján) every now and then.

I think I became aware of them around the time El Diario de Daniela rolled in, and for my friends, the era ended with Rebelde.

A friend and I joked that adult telenovelas always ended at weddings and the kids ones ended with concerts (to promote the CDs)

I also remember Serafín and boy did that loving angel was ugly as gently caress.

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Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


RBD was big in Brazil, and presumably in the rest of Latin America as well

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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Siselmo posted:

for my friends, the era ended with Rebelde.

A friend and I joked that adult telenovelas always ended at weddings and the kids ones ended with concerts (to promote the CDs)
RBD was just soooooo blatantly commercialized that it was hard to buy in. That and it just wasnt as relatable.

I dont remember the US market getting too many of the younger focused series. though maybe they were buried in the 12-2pm rerun slots.

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