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Casimir Radon posted:I maybe want to live in the world where they flew a plane into Donnie's stupid tower. Donnie wouldn't have been there (probably off molesting beauty pageant contestants at a golf course in scotland) and it would have made it personal. Gotta get your hellscape dimensional vision fixed.
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Ksm and ubl picked targets that were actually important.
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Jun 16, 2019 20:38
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Casimir Radon posted:Remind all the idiots you know that Israel and Iran were buddies through the late 90s. That's...not really true at all.
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Jun 16, 2019 20:52
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Godholio posted:That's...not really true at all. That's why you only sell that line to the idiots you know, duh
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Jun 16, 2019 20:53
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Important to the wealthy. We were pretty gung-ho for a fight though. They could have flown a handful of cessnas into McDonalds' across the country and incited the same vitriolic insanity, as long as the drums were beat to the same tune. Imagine G.W. standing on the rubble of Hamburger University, giving the vengeful speech he did at WTC. And you know the hosed up thing, is McDonald's probably has more every day interaction with the american people than any company ever based out of WTC. The reaction would probably have been worse if they struck random McDonald's because then they'd have really made the handi-fat crowd mad and the lampooning cartoon of an american on a rascal with a flag and generic machine gun would have been reality, not an artistic interpretation of rising waist lines and dwindling masculinity. Or maybe I'm just high.
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:You guys see the NYT reporting about CyberCom infiltration I Of Russia and their non-briefing of the president for fear of his reaction or possible disclosure? I have absolute faith in the US military's inability to keep its operations a secret. If it were a false flag, there would already be a SEAL somewhere ready to get a book deal about it.
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Random question but I’m genuinely confused Who the heck even supports Biden? Just crusty old dems? I figured most the old folks were on the Trump train for *checks notes* evangelical reasons. They may have voted for Obama but he didn’t accomplish anything in eight years so not falling for that again! If they aren’t full blown republican then they’re some weird stuck in the closet libertarian...who support Trump anyway because *checks notes* religious reasons. I’m miffed
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Jun 16, 2019 21:09
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:Random question but I’m genuinely confused Like, the Establishment, man! Serious answer is Republicans who call themselves Democrats.
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Jun 16, 2019 21:10
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People know his name. And despite Biden being an old white man, he's heavily associated with Obama. That helps him poll very well with black voters: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/11/biden-black-economic-alliance-poll-2020-1359082 It's fun to accuse anyone who supports Biden of being a secret conservative, but the truth of the matter is that tons of people don't follow the horse race or considered Obama good enough and see Biden as a possible return to when things seemed less bad under Obama.
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Jun 16, 2019 21:16
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:Random question but I’m genuinely confused He's running entirely nostalgia for the Obama years and everyone's regret he didn't take 2016 away from Hillary before Trump did.
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Jun 16, 2019 21:16
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To be fair if it comes down to it I'll absolutely support Joe considering the alternative is what we've got. I'd just prefer some other, better choices
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Casimir Radon posted:I maybe want to live in the world where they flew a plane into Donnie's stupid tower. I'm genuinely surprised none of the many organizations trying to goad the US into over-reacting have bombed a Trump hotel somewhere. I can't see anything making the pissbaby president more angry than seeing pictures on the television of his gold plated ego-reinforcers damaged and his knowledge that the rest of the world is seeing it too.
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bird food bathtub posted:I'm genuinely surprised none of the many organizations trying to goad the US into over-reacting have bombed a Trump hotel somewhere. I can't see anything making the pissbaby president more angry than seeing pictures on the television of his gold plated ego-reinforcers damaged and his knowledge that the rest of the world is seeing it too. For bonus points, he could blame it on 12 angry democrats.
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Jun 16, 2019 21:39
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Milo and POTUS posted:To be fair if it comes down to it I'll absolutely support Joe considering the alternative is what we've got. I'd just prefer some other, better choices I feel like we’ve made this mistake before...
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Jun 16, 2019 21:42
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Milo and POTUS posted:To be fair if it comes down to it I'll absolutely support Joe considering the alternative is what we've got. I'd just prefer some other, better choices Pretty much in that boat. Personally, I'm game for Warren. I'd take Bernie over Biden, too. Trouble is, I don't want another dinosaur in office. Warren is pretty policy laden and isn't freeballing it like mayor pete or beto, isn't a cop like Kamala, but she doesn't have the charisma to charm idiots long enough to digest her policies. She needs a hype machine. I suggest she adopt another golden retriever. Dogs speak volumes about their owners.
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Jun 16, 2019 21:46
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wtf Bernie all the way are y’all serious I mean he’s like the one exception to the no dinosaurs rule
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Comedy option - Mike Gravel. E- I don't think he's a joke. I think his ideas have a wider reach on both sides, and I like what I've seen.
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:wtf Bernie all the way are y’all serious The biggest negative that I can come up with Bernie is that the Bernie fans I know are so loving arrogant and annoying. I mean not enough to keep me from voting but it gets old after a while. But I’m a NPA voter in FL so I don’t get a vote in the primaries. bulletsponge13 posted:Comedy option - Mike Gravel. I want to see him on the stage and see how much of his campaign is online hype and how much is policy driven and what his ideas are.
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if mike gravel can make it to the debates it would be great. i suspect he is too old to want to though
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Jun 16, 2019 22:04
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:wtf Bernie all the way are y’all serious Yeah, a Sanders/Warren or Warren/Sanders run would loving rule.
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Jun 16, 2019 22:04
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Warren/Sanders. Warren runs foreign policy and military, Sanders drives domestic policy.
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Hot Karl Marx posted:if mike gravel can make it to the debates it would be great. i suspect he is too old to want to though If he can't make it to the debates because he's too infirm, he should shut the whole thing down.
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Warren and Sanders are definitely my top two, with a slight preference for Warren.
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Godholio posted:If he can't make it to the debates because he's too infirm, he should shut the whole thing down. Gravel's "campaign" is literally the result of some media interns astroturfing it into existence on social media without Gravel's participation. The only difference between this and Koch Bros bullshit is the ideology involved (which admittedly is a pretty big difference). BigDave posted:Warren/Sanders. This. Or Sanders/Warren. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Jun 16, 2019 |
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He kind of reminds me Ron Paul with respect to the online hype.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:This. Or Sanders/Warren. Nah. Sanders is best when he can work a crowd and bang the drum for workers rights and housing policy.
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Also Gravel isn't making it to the debates, they've already announced the contenders: Wednesday: Booker, Castro, deBlasio, Delaney, Gabbard, Inslee, Klobuchar, Beto, Ryan, and Warren Thursday: Bennet, Biden, Buttigieg, Gillibrand, Harris, Hickenlooper, Sanders, Sealwell, Williamson, Yang Along with Gravel, Bullock, Messam, and Moulton didn't qualify. So who do we think drops first? It's gotta be one of those names up there that nobody's ever heard of.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Also Gravel isn't making it to the debates, they've already announced the contenders: So stupid putting Warren in with the no hopers instead of where she belongs. Also  at Yang. And who the gently caress are Delaney, Ryan, Williamson, Sealwell and Bennet?
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:So stupid putting Warren in with the no hopers instead of where she belongs. Also She's with Booker and Beto. They're not Biden, but they're probably two of the more well-known names at this point in the primary field along with Warren and Sanders.
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McNally posted:Can you point me in the right direction on this? Googling 'Trump MSNBC Jon Stewart" only gets me links to Jon Stewart yelling at Congress. it was on Donny Deutsche's show Saturday Night Politics and he mentioned it in passing when he was talking about bipartisan bills that could be done easily. Stuff like your bill and the 9/11 first responders where theres no reason to not do it unless you are a coward or a raging shithead. he doesnt go into it at all, but it's a mention at least It's about 30 min in, before he brings Amy Klobuchar on. He shows the John Stewart clip beforehand
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psydude posted:She's with Booker and Beto. They're not Biden, but they're probably two of the more well-known names at this point in the primary field along with Warren and Sanders. At first glance I’d have kept Sanders and Biden separate, but I can’t fault the split. Night 1 feels slightly weaker but overall more level then Night 2 with Biden and Sanders. Still going to be near impossible for any of the second tier candidates to stand out, but Night 1 feels like it has slightly better odds vs Night 2.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:So stupid putting Warren in with the no hopers instead of where she belongs. Also I think it's fine. It allows Warren and Sanders two nights to convince the Democrat voting public of the need for Leftist Policies, instead of Centrist/Right Wing policies.
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Biden beats trump in the Rust Belt. And the Midwest. Warren is fantastic and my #1 choice Bernie should be VP at most. Hes great but he needs to be focused on domestic issues. Buttigeig is ok and should be fun at the debates also I have zero issues voting Biden if he's the nomination.
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:I feel like we’ve made this mistake before... Probably, I just wish we'd made that one in 2016, rather than the purity protest vote because we know who's going to win anyway mistake.
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:Random question but I’m genuinely confused People who think that everything was perfectly fine in America on Nov 5 2016.
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LingcodKilla posted:Warren/Ducks Ducks/Warren is my dream ticket at this point
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just loving lol at the thought that Obama's coattails will drag Biden to victory when neither Bill or Barack's could drag Hillary that far
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joat mon posted:Probably, I just wish we'd made that one in 2016, rather than the purity protest vote because we know who's going to win anyway mistake. I didn't say I'd protest vote though?
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