|
tombom posted:The ones I find most infuriating are the infirm/incapable ones. They don't even have the pretence of a story your guy just gets "infirm" at 50 randomly. Yeah this happened to Erik Bloodaxe at age 50 or so when I was playing as him. He lived to be about about 65 still, but I could no longer count on him as a master dueler from that point on.
|
#
?
Jun 16, 2019 21:50
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 1, 2024 00:53 |
|
|
tombom posted:The ones I find most infuriating are the infirm/incapable ones. They don't even have the pretence of a story your guy just gets "infirm" at 50 randomly. For me personally those traits are more understandable because at least there's a concrete cause within the game narrative. Like, sometimes old people are feeble, I get that. What really bothers me though are the events that are literally just "I don't feel like being diligent anymore" or "I decided kindness is bad", which trigger only because the game has decided your character has too many traits and needs to lose some of them. I don't remember the exact number point where personality traits get soft capped (I think it's eight?) but once you cross that threshold then they start getting arbitrarily removed until you're below the number. I mod out those events but I wish I could do without them on Ironman too
|
|
#
?
Jun 16, 2019 21:59
|
|
|
Somehow, the Umayyads in my current game (playing from the new start date) turned into a peasant's republic centered on Cordoba. They control Iberia and Morocco and are now pushing into France. Mantis42 fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Jun 16, 2019 |
|
#
?
Jun 16, 2019 22:30
|
|
|
Successful single-county conquest wars give MA too iirc.
|
|
#
?
Jun 16, 2019 22:52
|
|
|
So the new start date has a merchant republic vassal of the Ummayyads. If they manage to get a claim and take over the empire, and switch back to the tradition imperial capital in Cordoba, they no longer have a capital on the coast, and thus cease being a merchant republic, and then become a regular republic. This still is the case, and it's real dumb. There should simply be a rule that merchant republics should never be able to change their capital to a province without a port, ever.
|
|
#
?
Jun 16, 2019 22:52
|
|
|
Mantis42 posted:Somehow, the Umayyads in my current game (playing from the new start date) turned into a peasant's republic centered on Cordoba. They control Iberia and Morocco and are now pushing into France. I'm the HRE exiled to North Africa
|
|
#
?
Jun 16, 2019 22:54
|
|
|
Wait you can get abortions ??
|
|
#
?
Jun 16, 2019 23:22
|
|
|
Palemdromes posted:Wait you can get abortions ?? if you have a difficult pregnancy, you can get a choice to say something like "this child is not worth my life" and abort the pregnancy the thing is, if you are caught doing this, it's seriously like -50 general opinion for 10 years or something like that, it's one of the single most unpopular things you can do.
|
|
#
?
Jun 16, 2019 23:45
|
|
|
Baconomics posted:I'm the HRE exiled to North Africa Not exiled, sorry. I'm on the vassal view for the HRE.
|
|
#
?
Jun 16, 2019 23:50
|
|
|
What are some interesting Iron Century Count starts?
|
|
#
?
Jun 17, 2019 03:06
|
|
|
Charles-Constantine of Vienne, in Arles, is the son of a deposed King of Italy and Byzantine princess and has a strong claim. Good for a Catholic romp in 936.
|
|
#
?
Jun 17, 2019 03:19
|
|
|
MOVIE MAJICK posted:What are some interesting Iron Century Count starts? Norse count in Brittany Basque count of Bearn and Dax Eric Bloodaxe in Orkney(jar) One of the Armenian counts has a bloodline that goes all the way back to Parthian Persia
|
|
#
?
Jun 17, 2019 03:52
|
|
|
tombom posted:The ones I find most infuriating are the infirm/incapable ones. They don't even have the pretence of a story your guy just gets "infirm" at 50 randomly. Funny enough, this is what just happened to me... my character and his wife both got it. The infuriating part is that the penalties alone aren't enough to slow him down; his stats are still better than everyone else in the empire, only now he's forced to have a regent. Coolguye posted:if you have a difficult pregnancy, you can get a choice to say something like "this child is not worth my life" and abort the pregnancy It's 100 years. Yep. It's loving bad. aphid_licker posted:Man you could write most of a pretty decent fantasy novel around those plot points. Love this game. Her son had a pretty good run too. After being crowned Emperor, he had to put down a rebellion that was trying to establish gavelkind in the empire. At the same time, the Pope called a crusade, and started getting pissy with him for not Deus Vulting fast enough because of said rebellion. He put down the rebellion and pretty much singlehandedly won the crusade. Using the payout, he built up his holdings in and around Prag, including constructing a level 4 hospital with all the addons. Everything changed when the Aztecs invaded... is what I would say if they didn't just get dumpstered. They showed up and immediately blew their event troops taking a swipe at the Holy Roman Empire, which Kaiser Berthold 'the Lionheart' took advantage of to launch a Grand Conquest of France and steal it out from BOTH of their noses. A few decades of back and forth, and the Aztecs and the HRE are both neutered enough that they won't be threatening Bohemia any time soon. Currently, a grand palace is under construction in Prag, and the armies are away in Hispania to honor a request from a friend to support their rebellion. Berthold and his wife are in their mid sixties, and both have incapable. Despite this, Berthold's skills are still higher than his regent's. A few years prior, he set up his succession so that his smart grandson would inherit the throne instead of his borderline incompetent daughter. So all that is left is to wait out death/push the suicide button again. Warmachine fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Jun 17, 2019 |
|
#
?
Jun 17, 2019 06:04
|
|
|
Palemdromes posted:One of the Armenian counts has a bloodline that goes all the way back to Parthian Persia Well I know what my next campaign is. Bring Parthia back, convert to Zoroastrianism and and revive the age old friendly rivalry with the Eastern Roman Empire.
|
|
#
?
Jun 17, 2019 06:19
|
|
|
What the gently caress game? First it's infirm, then incapable, and since that STILL hasn't killed me, motherfucking rabies?
|
|
#
?
Jun 17, 2019 06:40
|
|
|
Coolguye posted:if you have a difficult pregnancy, you can get a choice to say something like "this child is not worth my life" and abort the pregnancy
|
|
#
?
Jun 17, 2019 09:16
|
|
|
 Since when has this been a thing ?? e: apparently it was added in Iron Century, and I guess there's barely anyone talking about it online because to get it you have to manually choose a startdate where Henry is likely to die without any legitimate male heirs. BBJoey fucked around with this message at 12:34 on Jun 17, 2019 |
|
#
?
Jun 17, 2019 12:24
|
|
|
Dwesa posted:Is this tied to some trait? I had some difficult pregnancies, but I never saw this option. It's a random event. I don't know if it was tied to something specific about my ruler or not. Could be tied to Hermetics or high learning, since the prompt is to drink some kind of potion.
|
|
#
?
Jun 17, 2019 15:46
|
|
|
Thrasophius posted:Well I know what my next campaign is. Bring Parthia back, convert to Zoroastrianism and and revive the age old friendly rivalry with the Eastern Roman Empire. There's another bloodline that is quite literally the Sassanid dynasty in tabarestan.
|
|
#
?
Jun 17, 2019 16:27
|
|
|
I got my copy of the Crusader Kings board game in, and played my first game of it over the weekend. Here's my thoughts: Overall, I like the game. It does a good job of capturing the dynastic and intriguing feel of CK2 In particular, the marriage game is fun. You have to weigh marrying for traits against marrying for claims on neutral territory against marrying to seal pacts with other players However, there are a few nits to pick. Overall, the game's a solid B+ for me, but there are a number of factors that carried it down from being an A Only being able to control 8 territories means there's little pressure to war. Once you're big, the only benefit from attacking another player is to deny them points. You get nothing out of it directly Events either target yourself or the player to your left. Childbirth is all by events, and almost never from self-targeting events. This means that it can be very easy to screw over another player by just not playing childbirth events for them when possible. It is really easy to build up provinces and make them nearly impossible to conquer, especially if you got a few bad traits. Duke+Castle+Raised Levies+Plate Mail invention means it's a difficulty 5 to invade it, in a game where difficulty 3 can easily be prohibitively difficult. Achievements get unlocked super fast and are just a race rather than being really interactive. Building 3 castles is expensive, but easy to do once you have the 9 gold (2 tax cards gets you there easily). 4 developments can literally be done in the first action of the game for people who start with 6+ gold (france and italy in the default startdate). These problems aren't enough to make the game bad, and I completely recommend it for anyone who is a fan of board games and CK2, but they're still things that could be improved in an expansion
|
|
#
?
Jun 18, 2019 03:28
|
|
|
Average Bear posted:There's another bloodline that is quite literally the Sassanid dynasty in tabarestan. Well that's who I'm playing then and I will name every one of my heirs Khosrow. Hopefully some of them will be amazing militarists. BBJoey posted:
Anyone know any other events like this that happen on specific dates?
|
|
#
?
Jun 18, 2019 04:55
|
|
|
Thrasophius posted:Anyone know any other events like this that happen on specific dates? There are very, very few. There’s obviously the Charlemagne and Otto events for their respective start date. There are two other Iron Century events. An event makes Igor’s wife, Saint Olga, pregnant if they’re both still alive around 10 years after start date (the timer starts counting after taking the decision to convert to Russian/Slavic). I believe the Fatimids get an event to invade Egypt. Other than that, the only ones that come to mind are spawning conquerors: Seljuk, Sabuktigin, Genghis and Timur.
|
|
#
?
Jun 18, 2019 05:02
|
|
|
If anybody is interested in trying something new, set the demense and vassal limit to half in the game rules. I've done a couple of starts this way and it definitely gives a different feel to the whole game. This somewhat tips the balance between the liege and their vassals. You end up having fewer stronger vassals who are more likely to screw up your day if you don't keep them happy while also holding less land yourself. This definitely ups the internal court intrigues and makes for an interesting balancing act - trying to pander to my vassal kings and superdukes, lest I end up getting a massive revolt compared to a normal game where I'd just have a hundred no-name counts with no real power to speak of. My only gripe is that it makes stewardship even more of a must-have attribute once you get big enough, since going from 4 to 5 demense size is a much bigger relative boost compared to going from 9 to 10 and now you also need to have twice as much stewardship. Thinking about trying a start with demense and vassal limit set to a quarter now, though something tells me that this will lead to some really funky AI revolts.
|
|
#
?
Jun 18, 2019 14:54
|
|
|
Speaking of stories the game writes, I won the loving Chinese bride jackpot in my last game. I was rolling as Kievan Rus in the Iron Century. Became proper Russian, proper Slavic pagan. Went through a few generations. My dude's first wife dies of a bad bout of pneumonia. They had a decent kid, so I decided to send off to China for a wife. I was near enough that the expansionist China could have been a problem, so the peace treaty was nice. And in walks this loving perfect wife. A decisive genius. Positive traits across the board, not lustful, double digits in every goddamn stat. She immediately falls in love with my ruler. They have several kids and live a long, happy life together. And then the wife dies of cancer. My ruler gets a letter from China. A line the game explicitly mentions says something like "The world was a better place with her in it" or "The world is a worse place without her." My ruler became depressed and within the month, maybe within two weeks even, died "of depression." The genius daughter named after her mom and who looked like her mom inherited the throne.
|
|
#
?
Jun 18, 2019 20:50
|
|
|
Warmachine posted:What the gently caress game? First it's infirm, then incapable, and since that STILL hasn't killed me, motherfucking rabies? Isn't rabies always "you were murdered by the satanists"
|
|
#
?
Jun 18, 2019 21:50
|
|
|
Azhais posted:Isn't rabies always "you were murdered by the satanists" isn't that cancer
|
|
#
?
Jun 18, 2019 22:11
|
|
|
I never play with Satanists, but I’ve definitely had a handful of family members die of rabies
|
|
#
?
Jun 18, 2019 22:15
|
|
|
Satanists give you a random disease with "Dark Touch." You could get a bad tummy ache. You could also get Black Plague. No, I'm pretty sure this was just my game desperate to kill off that character, using increasingly ludicrous contrivances. I think he actually died excommunicated because the Pope decided that, after excommunicating him and accepting his repentance, would excommunicate him again a month later. Which, BTW Paradox, you should probably put a cooldown on that. His son was excommunicated, recommunicated when he joined the crusade, and then excommunicated during the crusade.  I finally paid off the Pope and used my Crusader Loot Pinata to keep said Pope (and also the Emperor's brother) happy for now.
|
|
#
?
Jun 18, 2019 22:26
|
|
|
Holy poo poo, didn't know you could get a parrot by losing half of your extremities
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2019 03:39
|
|
|
Looks like you need to bring Jesus to Britain.
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2019 03:46
|
|
|
Grand Prize Winner posted:Holy poo poo, didn't know you could get a parrot by losing half of your extremities Oh, like a pirate. Not bad.
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2019 04:39
|
|
|
Mantis42 posted:Looks like you need to bring Jesus to Britain. I already brought Better Jesus to Britain so idk
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2019 04:39
|
|
|
BBJoey posted:There are very, very few. There’s obviously the Charlemagne and Otto events for their respective start date. There are two other Iron Century events. An event makes Igor’s wife, Saint Olga, pregnant if they’re both still alive around 10 years after start date (the timer starts counting after taking the decision to convert to Russian/Slavic). I believe the Fatimids get an event to invade Egypt. Other than that, the only ones that come to mind are spawning conquerors: Seljuk, Sabuktigin, Genghis and Timur. To be honest I didn't even know events like that were in the game. I always just go to the early start and run from there. I've missed so much. Do they have a big impact on gameplay? Grand Prize Winner posted:Holy poo poo, didn't know you could get a parrot by losing half of your extremities This is why I love this game. Played it for so many years and still find events I've never come across.
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2019 04:44
|
|
|
Wife has the "Very Probably A Secret Society Member" status... suddenly gets pregnant... spies can't find anything suspect... This kid is getting smothered with a pillow. 
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2019 05:05
|
|
|
Warmachine posted:Wife has the "Very Probably A Secret Society Member" status... suddenly gets pregnant... spies can't find anything suspect... I think you'll find that it's everyone else who gets smothered. Also, playing as the demon child is fun, so make sure to legitimize whatever pops out, even if it has hooves.
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2019 05:19
|
|
|
binge crotching posted:Also, playing as the demon child is fun, so make sure to legitimize whatever pops out, FTFY But yeah, I'm jealous you've got the chance to play as the devil's spawn, Warmachine! I've never had that event fire, despite 550-600hrs played.  I've had immortality once, but that's it - no other super-rare events that I'm aware of.
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2019 05:38
|
|
|
Major Isoor posted:FTFY Join Lucifer's Own. If you can get the top rank, you can create one on-demand. I already had my Devil Child pop this game. Had enough of the cleft hoof life for one dynasty. As it turns out, it wasn't the devil child anyway. Still debating how best to eliminate my primary her so the one behind him with genius will take the throne. Pope doesn't like me enough to let me excommunicate.
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2019 05:52
|
|
|
Thrasophius posted:To be honest I didn't even know events like that were in the game. I always just go to the early start and run from there. I've missed so much. Do they have a big impact on gameplay? Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. The big conqueror events depend a lot on where they target to make their claim, since that determines how many event troops they get. It's entirely possible for them to target some lone duchy somewhere, take it over, and then get immediately swallowed by a neighbour. You can see a list of all the various "famous conqueror shows up to do their historical conquest" events here: https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Hordes Warmachine posted:Join Lucifer's Own. If you can get the top rank, you can create one on-demand. I already had my Devil Child pop this game. Had enough of the cleft hoof life for one dynasty. Sometimes it's worth it just to take the tyranny penalty to throw them in prison and order them to take the vows.
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2019 06:06
|
|
|
The Cheshire Cat posted:Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. The big conqueror events depend a lot on where they target to make their claim, since that determines how many event troops they get. It's entirely possible for them to target some lone duchy somewhere, take it over, and then get immediately swallowed by a neighbour. Now that I did not know. That explains my old Persian game. Revived the Persian empire, everything from Anatolia to Egypt to the borders of India, mongols spawn with like 120k troops and kept getting reinforcements. It was a pain in the rear end trying to win that one.
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2019 10:04
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 1, 2024 00:53 |
|
|
Grand Prize Winner posted:Holy poo poo, didn't know you could get a parrot by losing half of your extremities Now you are a Catharrrr!
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2019 13:08
|
|
