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get that OUT of my face posted:it's not an uncommon belief. there used to be a cspam regular who believed that poo poo and regularly accused him of it, idk if they still post here. generally, saying "don't blame things on russia" will get you smeared as a sympathizer by libs and some progressives. see also Michael Tracey michael tracey is a huge moron who should be mocked by absolutely everyone
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Elias_Maluco posted:Is really amazing Jose posted:michael tracey is a huge moron who should be mocked by absolutely everyone
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Jun 17, 2019 18:20
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It's meant to just give the chuds a common narrative to cling to, and if they had said that Greenwald is a martian commie they would have hopped on board with the same enthusiasm. Or just point out that he's gay, that's all they need to know. It's not like they were reachable in any case, and that Bolso's media people are spending their bot hordes in favor of this is another sign that they are not really cold-minded media masterminds but as vile and dumb as their followers. The issues are 1- If actual media will boost this. So far, it seems like they know better, or just prefer the 'evil lefty hacker is attacking our honorable judges!" story, and 2- If it even matters at this point. Old media still have some power to knock down establishment candidates (their fire actually -helps- neofascists and 'outsiders', after all), but it has less and less power to actually promote anything or anyone.
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Jun 17, 2019 18:22
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Elias_Maluco posted:Is really amazing the current thing is because he keeps going on Tucker Carlson's "White Nationalist Power Hour" and gets into Twitter fights with trendy "left" journalists, you know the kind who say that they're to Bernie Sanders' left only to signal-boost Liz Warren's presidential campaign.
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Troy Queef posted:the current thing is because he keeps going on Tucker Carlson's "White Nationalist Power Hour" and gets into Twitter fights with trendy "left" journalists, you know the kind who say that they're to Bernie Sanders' left only to signal-boost Liz Warren's presidential campaign. stfu michael tracey
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Jun 17, 2019 18:23
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Also Glenn seems to enjoy appearing on Tucker constantly and The Intercept royally hosed up the Reality Winner thing. I still think Glenn is mostly good. 
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Jun 17, 2019 18:24
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oh right, greenwald goes on fox news a lot too. he kinda shouldn't do that tbh
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Jun 17, 2019 18:24
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Jose posted:stfu michael tracey the only thing he and I have in common is that we both occasionally re-tweet a Mike Francesa parody account
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Jun 17, 2019 18:28
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I mean it's not like the other channels will receive him.
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Jun 17, 2019 18:30
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If anything Greenwald's divisive attitude should've given him more credit as an impartial figure in the lava-jato leaks, not the opposite. I mean, one of the most vocal critics of the russian conspiracy narrative actually disclosed a conspiracy in Brazil!  But yeah, I know. Garbage people are garbage people and all...
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Jun 17, 2019 18:33
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Liberal anger at greenwald precedes Tucker, reality winner (which he had nothing to do with) and all that.
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Jun 17, 2019 18:39
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Who names their child Reality Winner
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Jun 17, 2019 18:43
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Jesse Singal apologia, even after it was revealed his ""reporting"" was used on legal cases to make trans youth's lives worse. Come on Glenn post the third part, I want to see the Globo-founded Sic to have a shitfit.
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Jun 17, 2019 21:06
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Elias_Maluco posted:Is really amazing greenwald permanently occupies the position of ‘America is always in the wrong’ which, while correct 90% of the time, means that 10% of the time he ends up defending the few instances of countries or people behaving worse than the us and he refuses to back down due to how online he is
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Jun 17, 2019 21:10
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:greenwald permanently occupies the position of ‘America is always in the wrong’ which, while correct 90% of the time, means that 10% of the time he ends up defending the few instances of countries or people behaving worse than the us and he refuses to back down due to how online he is Greenwald is better than literally every other person in American media, and the Snowden leaks plus this current story makes it so that he is more valuable than every other American journalist combined. The problem is that for a huge chunk of the American left foreign policy is just a minor detail. And not only is it treated as a minor detail, but a huge chunk of the American left also believes the narrative of the US being the global force for good that only sometimes makes mistakes. There are hundreds of extremely online pundits. Greenwald's stories burst through most of these American left people's self conception, and that is where the hate comes from. There are people who are far more critical of the US than Greenwald is. Adam Johnson, for example. Hell, Greenwald's take on US foreign policy 99% of the time is just repackaged Chomsky. The difference is that Greenwald exposed things in a way that couldn't just be dismissed as fringe left conspiracy theory. Before I stopped listening to it, the highlight of Pod Save the World to me was when in one episode Vietor and Ben Rhodes spent the whole time wondering if Snowden and Greenwald were Russian agents, and then Greenwald asked to go on PSW and absolutely destroyed Vietor.
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Elias_Maluco posted:Is really amazing He's very dismissive of the reactionary movements in the united states, which you would think considering whats happening in Brazil he could sympathize with. Also he will never admit hes wrong so he ends up doing stupid poo poo like mocking people who have preferred pro-nouns or saying that a gay man should just accept being bullied because punishing the bully would be censorship
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Jun 17, 2019 22:30
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He does have a few dumb, annoying takes here and there but nothing really important. And like Venom Snake mentioned, choosing dumb meaningless hills to die on and being needlessly defensive about small stuff like a news Richard Dawkins. So mostly annoying, not necessarily wrong.
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Jun 17, 2019 22:46
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am I morally consistent if I think that both greenwald and dawkins are pricks, then
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Jun 17, 2019 22:53
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Dawkins is a galaxy size prick, Glenn is only a moon size one.
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get that OUT of my face posted:is Glenn gonna translate the other three parts that are only in Portuguese? i want to read them all https://theintercept.com/2019/06/09/brazil-archive-operation-car-wash/ https://theintercept.com/2019/06/09/brazil-car-wash-prosecutors-workers-party-lula/ https://theintercept.com/2019/06/09/brazil-lula-operation-car-wash-sergio-moro/ https://theintercept.com/2019/06/17/brazil-sergio-moro-lula-operation-car-wash/ translated part 4 was just released a couple of hours ago
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Antifa Poltergeist posted:Dawkins is a galaxy size prick, Glenn is only a moon size one. Sounds pretty accurate. Glenn can be annoying with his proto-libertarian takes. "See, we can't have Youtube/Twitter crack down on bigots and nazis, because then they'll weed out progressive voices as well!" Yeah, Glenn, like they don't loving do already by selectively enforcing rules and looking the other way when bot activity and mass guided actions take place. I can understand the basic rationale, but it just feels insanely naive. It's like expecting the Milo Yannopolous bigot chuds to decry anti-BDS and BLM legislation, since after all, they say they love free speech! But having said that, Glenn is still a net positive by a decent margin. Just the fact that he's a poo poo-disturber instead of a mewly access-seeking, lets-all-be-nice sap means a lot. Even if a good portion of US liberal pundits and such are now doubling down on the Russiagate crap only so they don't have to admit he was right.
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Jun 17, 2019 23:42
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Well he might be a prick and might be wrong about things, but he is still a good journalist. And is doing an amazing job here
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Venom Snake posted:He's very dismissive of the reactionary movements in the united states, which you would think considering whats happening in Brazil he could sympathize with. Also he will never admit hes wrong so he ends up doing stupid poo poo like mocking people who have preferred pro-nouns or saying that a gay man should just accept being bullied because punishing the bully would be censorship This is a very good summary That said he clearly did a good job with this story
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Jun 18, 2019 13:00
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i don't subscribe to cancel culture and think that glenn does a lot of valuable reporting and is worth posting about, regardless of how extremely online he can be
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Jun 18, 2019 14:14
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On other news, the supreme court passed criminalization of hate crimes against LGBT people alongside the existing classifications of racism. Now to enforce that since homosexuals and transpeople are attacked all day here.
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The other day Fhc was defending Moro. I wonder why https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1141107956903305216
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Not too long ago, the media lionized FHC for how -good- he was at squelching corruption probes and how tight he was with hideously corrupt feudal lords like Antonio Carlos Magalhaes. "Look, our philosopher-president ilegally bought votes for a self-serving constitutional ammendment allowing for his own re-election AND silenced calls for investigation by spreading government positions around! Truly a prince among statesmen." 
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get that OUT of my face posted:oh right, greenwald goes on fox news a lot too. he kinda shouldn't do that tbh yes, debunking russiagate is anti-imperialist
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Jun 19, 2019 05:41
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all the major news networks including npr and the nyt are rightwing imperialist propaganda outlets trying to draw arbitrary distinctions between them to try to justify a boycott that make you feel good about yourself is delusional
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Jun 19, 2019 05:44
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the irony here is that fox news and conservative media in general apparently allows their staff to have more creative freedom, so they're more willing to invite on socialists and marxists and anti-imperialists than the liberal media lol
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Yeah, the world where going on Fox is a bigger sin than advocating for the Iraq war, covering for the coup in Brazil, lying about Iran and Venezuela nonstop is crazy...
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joepinetree posted:Yeah, the world where going on Fox is a bigger sin than advocating for the Iraq war, covering for the coup in Brazil, lying about Iran and Venezuela nonstop is crazy...
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Jun 19, 2019 13:45
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You know how certain brazilians love Obama, would never vote for Trump but voted for Bolsonaro? I feel like ggreenwald is kinda like that but the opposite. He's a fierce critic of Bolsonaro with a lot of great takes (like he went to this 90 minutos show the other day and made some amazing points) meanwhile in the US he keeps showing up on Tucker Carlson to complain about PC culture going wrong and dumb poo poo like that.
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Jun 19, 2019 14:39
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I mean, a leftist that's also an rear end in a top hat isn't anything new, in fact that's most of these here forums nowadays.
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Jun 19, 2019 16:31
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Dias posted:I mean, a leftist that's also an rear end in a top hat isn't anything new, in fact that's most of these here forums nowadays.
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Do any of you olds actually remember this? I had no idea. https://twitter.com/pedreco/status/1141060238663176192 https://twitter.com/pedreco/status/1141064859964137472
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hey, at least the continued chaos of the Bolso government means that pension reform is probably dead oh? ohhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooo quote:Big-money investors see all of this as mere political noise being amplified by Brazil’s left-wing political groups, led by the deposed and defamed Workers Party.
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