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Jun 18, 2019 16:37
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Remember, Scapeshift is still legal alongside this for three months.
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This is what you are going to be getting in your pre-release packs. Jabor posted:Remember, Scapeshift is still legal alongside this for three months. That is a lot of hoops to jump through to get a few zombies.
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Jun 18, 2019 16:38
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Jabor posted:Remember, Scapeshift is still legal alongside this for three months. I would be flummoxed if this made any significant impact in Standard. Zombie Token EDH, on the other hand...
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Jun 18, 2019 16:41
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Jabor posted:Remember, Scapeshift is still legal alongside this for three months. This is so cool. I believe it works just like scapeshift Valakut, 6 other unique lands + this would get you 7 triggers.
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Jun 18, 2019 16:44
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jassi007 posted:This is so cool. I believe it works just like scapeshift Valakut, 6 other unique lands + this would get you 7 triggers. Yup. Perhaps more relevantly, 6 other unique lands + 2 of these gives you 16 triggers (and 32 power on the battlefield). I'm not sure it's gonna be good, but if you're into janky combo decks it's something to think about.
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Jabor posted:Yup. I'm thinking of loving with a modern scapeshift shell just to jam 1 or 2 for fun. I doubt it makes the deck better, but it sounds fun to make zombies when they expect to be dealing with Valakut. One thing people generally do not side in against scapeshift is sweepers.
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Yawgmoth posted:It'll be called Knowledge Cycle and be a sorcery. Thanks to Time Raveler that wouldn't be an issue.
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Jun 18, 2019 16:57
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jassi007 posted:I'm thinking of loving with a modern scapeshift shell just to jam 1 or 2 for fun. I doubt it makes the deck better, but it sounds fun to make zombies when they expect to be dealing with Valakut. One thing people generally do not side in against scapeshift is sweepers. The lands all need to have different names. I'm not sure that Scapeshift runs seven different types of lands, though maybe that list can be adjusted. Seems like a lot of work though.
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No, dammit, I want a Cycle cycle! This makes me so mad because there's roughly a dozen ways this card could have been printed to be at least playable in limited, or some gimmick tier 2 standard deck, but no. They have to make it loving unplayable trash for every format.
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Jun 18, 2019 16:59
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Need to start getting my rares and mythics in a digital collection for trading, pricing, and deck building. Is deckbox still the preferred site for this? Or is there a better app/site now?
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Yawgmoth posted:No, dammit, I want a Cycle cycle! Seems perfectly playable in EDH where every land is a single copy.
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Jun 18, 2019 17:00
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Yawgmoth posted:No, dammit, I want a Cycle cycle! not sure why it needs to enter tapped lawl, are they that afraid of printing a strictly better wastes?
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Jun 18, 2019 17:06
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What about this card is so powerful that it has to come into play tapped?
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The American Dream posted:What about this card is so powerful that it has to come into play tapped? Free 2/2 on turn 7? 
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Yawgmoth posted:No, dammit, I want a Cycle cycle! its not clear to me that removing the text "with different names" would have made it too strong
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evilweasel posted:not sure why it needs to enter tapped lawl, are they that afraid of printing a strictly better wastes? Wastes being a basic means its not strictly better.
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C-Euro posted:The lands all need to have different names. I'm not sure that Scapeshift runs seven different types of lands, though maybe that list can be adjusted. Seems like a lot of work though. Agree a lot of work for the payoff, but again I'm just talking about loving around at FNM. Snow-Coverd Forest Snow-Covered Mountain Mountain Forest Valakut Wooded Foothills Windswepth Heath Stomping Ground Cinderglade Sheltered Thicket Field of the Dead
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It would be a neat limited card at least. Small hit to Mana but every land drop part 6 is a grizzly bear.
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Alaan posted:It would be a neat limited card at least. Small hit to Mana but every land drop part 6 is a grizzly bear. You think you can draft and play 7 different land types and have a real deck in limited?
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The American Dream posted:What about this card is so powerful that it has to come into play tapped? It's tradition. Reference: Army of the Damned, Empty The Pits, From Under The Floorboards, Rise from the Tides, Necromancer's Stockpile, Graveyard Marshal, Xathrid Necromancer, etc.
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Time posted:You think you can draft and play 7 different land types and have a real deck in limited? I was responding to the if it didn't have unique clause. Just lands 7+ give token. This is as last pick a card as has been printed.
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Time posted:You think you can draft and play 7 different land types and have a real deck in limited? I think we're talking about the hypothetical version without the "different names" bit. That would be a good limited card and potentially a very good constructed card (remember when Mutavault was legal and control decks played it as a win-con? yeah.) The "different names" bit probably limits it to EDH and people who want to live the Scapeshift dream in Standard.
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Alaan posted:I was responding to the if it didn't have unique clause. Just lands 7+ give token. Oh, yeah. It would be good then
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This doesn't seem like a rare to me.
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I can't tell if this is a storytelling top-down design that I just can't suss out the story of, or a lovely rare they tagged a 1/1 on at the last minute so at least it isn't a 7-mana exile.
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Jun 18, 2019 17:34
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oof. Doesn't take many of these to make a set go downhill in a hurry.
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This could actually be like 6 power with all the loving spirit lords, lol. I don’t think it makes the cut anyway but it’s interesting
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Idk that seems fine in Spirits? Not top of the line but hey it’s actually a spirit that kills things
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TheKingofSprings posted:Idk that seems fine in Spirits? Not top of the line but hey it’s actually a spirit that kills things being "not top of the line" is a dealbreaker when you would have to make room for it by cutting a card that actually is top of the line. constructed decks don't have infinite space if you need creatures dead you should be playing path instead of something that requires a 7 mana investment little munchkin fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jun 18, 2019 |
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Jun 18, 2019 17:52
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BizarroAzrael posted:This doesn't seem like a rare to me. It'd be a very powerful uncommon.
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Also how many creature Spirits actually make a second body when they come into play cheaply? I think that aspect is being seriously undervalued when it lets your 1 drop spirit punch in for 3 off of a Collected Company and makes your lords twice as effective.
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A two-turn, 7 mana removal spell that can't even chump block effectively. Great job team.
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Huxley posted:I can't tell if this is a storytelling top-down design that I just can't suss out the story of, or a lovely rare they tagged a 1/1 on at the last minute so at least it isn't a 7-mana exile. the story is pretty self-contained, it's a ghost whose unfinished business is to execute someone. the second spirit is someone he hanged in his first life, i guess probably one of those cards that started out decent, then they got scared it was too easy to abuse so they tacked a bunch of extra mana onto the costs
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TheKingofSprings posted:Also how many creature Spirits actually make a second body when they come into play cheaply? Nobody wants this card in their constructed deck, especially in formats where you can cast collected company.
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