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hi thread, how is the war? did some structure grinding earlier with my super which was fun but real life caught up hard.
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nex posted:hi thread, how is the war? as best i can tell, every day nc/pl wake up and hope our last punch to their face wore us out, and every day has been a disappointment for them on that front
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Jun 17, 2019 22:35
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evilweasel posted:as best i can tell, every day nc/pl wake up and hope our last punch to their face wore us out, and every day has been a disappointment for them on that front both alliances are basically withered shells of their former selves, and don't have much more going for them than some other pubby alliances like TEST at this point
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Jun 17, 2019 22:48
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The truth is, they all have alts in the Imperium and they prefer the miner life
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Jun 17, 2019 23:05
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Landsknecht posted:both alliances are basically withered shells of their former selves, and don't have much more going for them than some other pubby alliances like TEST at this point People in TEST probably login and do things though, so in that regard TEST is probably better than PL/NC at this point 
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Jun 18, 2019 01:13
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Wibla posted:Did you get lost trying to find the EV thread? Zazz Razzamatazz posted:World War Flee? Hot take: "World War [Word]" has been done to death and isn't witty.
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Jun 18, 2019 07:44
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this goon invasion is the death knell of eve online - goons are strong enough now that nobody can oppose them in open conflict except the entire rest of the game combined, and their growth outpaces everyone else so eventually not even that will be enough the reason pibc (army of mango) left serenity and came to tq is because this already happened to them there, there is so little to do on their server that the game is completely and irrevocably dead, and so they came to ours when it comes to the point that goons have no content due to everyone getting crushed or blued, no one else will have any content either, and there isn't another server for us to move to after tq dies
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Jun 18, 2019 11:20
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Eve is dying, reeeee.
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Jun 18, 2019 11:37
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dragonshardz posted:Hot take: "World War [Word]" has been done to death and isn't witty. Tbf World War Coward is pretty funny.
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Jun 18, 2019 12:24
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:this goon invasion is the death knell of eve online - goons are strong enough now that nobody can oppose them in open conflict except the entire rest of the game combined, and their growth outpaces everyone else so eventually not even that will be enough this is what I said a few times some pages back, and there were a bunch of bad "they need to get gud" posts. This is the reality of what is happening though. Like I said, goons won. Now they're king of everything -- and nothing.
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Jun 18, 2019 14:05
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We can all finally play much better games once it dies and i no longer have the guilt over sunken time with this game.
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Jun 18, 2019 14:11
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Kimsemus posted:this is what I said a few times some pages back, and there were a bunch of bad "they need to get gud" posts. aaaaany day now. Yup. game dead. People have been saying that for years. Globby has been saying it since the day after he subbed. Still not dead. Weird. It's almost like if you keep saying it's dead, then when it does finally die ya'all can go "see, totally called it.  "
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Jun 18, 2019 14:40
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no but you see we need to disarm ourselves to save the game
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Jun 18, 2019 14:43
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Like I said Reset the whole thing and reroll the galaxy Credit people some skill points or something Lore explanation is "triglavians killed everyone but Concord low-key cruised through the Eve gates"
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Jun 18, 2019 14:43
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Jun 18, 2019 14:47
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Can't wait for infrastructure week Replacing every gate and bridge with bridging titans owns New eye of terror puts a full fleet of titans in bridge range of every system
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Jun 18, 2019 14:56
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Like poo poo should get extremely ridiculous while we do victory laps until the game is reset
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Jun 18, 2019 14:57
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its been a fun decade of people claiming we only say titans are cancer because we're not elite enough to have them
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Jun 18, 2019 15:00
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:no but you see we need to disarm ourselves to save the game https://i.imgur.com/MwP9V5t.gifv
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Jun 18, 2019 15:49
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evilweasel posted:its been a fun decade of people claiming we only say titans are cancer because we're not elite enough to have them delete all supers.
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Jun 18, 2019 15:51
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Paramemetic posted:Like I said How would that change anything? Goons are top dogs because we have the best organization and numbers. If the galaxy was reset that wouldn't change. It would just take a couple months before anyone was in super caps.
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Jun 18, 2019 15:55
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:this goon invasion is the death knell of eve online - goons are strong enough now that nobody can oppose them in open conflict except the entire rest of the game combined, and their growth outpaces everyone else so eventually not even that will be enough We won EVE by sheer organizational skill and the existence of SA that ties many people together outside of EVE. You can't nerf that. Even if other alliances had the same numbers, no other alliance in the game would be able to sustain them in the way Goons do. I love Mittani's way of putting it: "A nerf to us is an even bigger nerf to our enemies." Simply because we somehow always find a way to use the existing game mechanics to their full potential where others can't or won't. And even if some spy were to break Goonswarm apart tomorrow, we'd just rebuild instead of turning over and dying. That much has been proven like three times already, if not more. Will we use the power of being the unbeatable force on TQ responsibly? No... no probably not.
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Jun 18, 2019 16:06
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Wibla posted:Eve is dying, reeeee. Serious reply; user numbers have tanked heavily since 2013, but Eve-Online is the most profitable it has ever been according to CCP. This is due to whales buying ship skins, PLEX, and skill injectors.
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Jun 18, 2019 17:29
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I said come in! posted:Serious reply; user numbers have tanked heavily since 2013, but Eve-Online is the most profitable it has ever been according to CCP. This is due to whales buying ship skins, PLEX, and skill injectors. and ccp not spending a dime on coders
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Jun 18, 2019 17:30
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I said come in! posted:Serious reply; user numbers have tanked heavily since 2013, but Eve-Online is the most profitable it has ever been according to CCP. This is due to whales buying ship skins, PLEX, and skill injectors. The game was designed in 2003. I have to imagine moores law has made running the servers exponentially cheaper over time.
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Jun 18, 2019 17:35
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Rutibex posted:The game was designed in 2003. I have to imagine moores law has made running the servers exponentially cheaper over time. as a non computer smartyman, what does this mean in terms of costs of running the game? evilweasel posted:and ccp not spending a dime on coders this is almost certainly true
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Jun 18, 2019 17:37
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evilweasel posted:and ccp not spending a dime on coders CCP benefits a huge amount from hisec nerds moving to a large "safe" alliance and then whipping out their credit card to bling out a titanguy+titan
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Jun 18, 2019 17:49
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Kimsemus posted:as a non computer smartyman, what does this mean in terms of costs of running the game? 2003 was the same year that Knight of the Old Republic and Grand Theft Auto: Vice City was released. Imagine how powerful of a computer you would need to run those games today. They run on a low end phone. Yeah EVE has had a few graphical update here and there, but that's all client side. I'd bet the server software has around the same processing overhead as it did back in 2003. That means they could likely run the EVE server off of a cheap netbook or maybe an iPhone 7. Also bandwidth is 1000x cheaper today than it was in 2003.
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Jun 18, 2019 18:08
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Rutibex posted:That means they could likely run the EVE server off of a cheap netbook or maybe an iPhone 7. Well, at least your custom user title is accurate.
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Jun 18, 2019 18:13
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Rutibex posted:2003 was the same year that Knight of the Old Republic and Grand Theft Auto: Vice City was released. Imagine how powerful of a computer you would need to run those games today. They run on a low end phone. Yeah EVE has had a few graphical update here and there, but that's all client side. I'd bet the server software has around the same processing overhead as it did back in 2003. That means they could likely run the EVE server off of a cheap netbook or maybe an iPhone 7. the server software strains current chips to their absolute limit since it is single-threaded
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Jun 18, 2019 18:26
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Rutibex posted:That means they could likely run the EVE server off of a cheap netbook or maybe an iPhone 7. Perfect avatar/post combo ever...
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Jun 18, 2019 18:35
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Eve-Online is a completely different game from when it released in 2003, including a gigantic amount of new server side content. How communicating with CCPs servers has been completely rewritten multiple times. Things like huge PvP battles, while not perfect still, are way better than they use to be. I know it's fun to roast CCP for poor choices, and they certainly have made a lot, but it's not accurate to say Eve-Online hasn't changed at all since its original launch.
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Jun 18, 2019 18:56
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evilweasel posted:the server software strains current chips to their absolute limit since it is single-threaded Yeah, when there are 1000+ people in the same system. The fact that EVE can even pull that off is testament to the low server overhead. Back in 2003 you couldn't even buy a multi core processor, now you can get 18 cores in one. The systems are instanced so today a typical processor can run 18 systems, where in 2003 it could only do one. I'd say that's a savings. But who knows, I'm sure it's still running on the original hardware and hasn't cost them a dime since 2003 
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Jun 18, 2019 18:56
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I don't know about server side, but Eve-Online on the user side is going 64bit later this year.
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Jun 18, 2019 18:58
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I said come in! posted:I don't know about server side, but Eve-Online on the user side is going 64bit later this year. the 64 bit client is already out there in beta. I'm using it right now.
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Jun 18, 2019 18:59
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Rutibex posted:
Im not sure of you are being sarcastic here but I remember a few years ago they did a massive upgrade.
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Jun 18, 2019 19:08
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Can I get eve online classic please
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Jun 18, 2019 19:26
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Rutibex posted:Yeah, when there are 1000+ people in the same system. The fact that EVE can even pull that off is testament to the low server overhead. Back in 2003 you couldn't even buy a multi core processor, now you can get 18 cores in one. The systems are instanced so today a typical processor can run 18 systems, where in 2003 it could only do one. I'd say that's a savings. from what I understand though -- EVE is hosted on some pretty beefy, fairly unique/up-to-date hardware, I remember reading an article where DoD experts helped them set it up or something. I can tell you from firsthand experience, playing back in 2003, that the game has a lot more going on now, does a lot more, and handles things a lot better than it did back then, so I'm not 100% certain it's cheaper to run now than it was then, except by virtue of less R&D to get the whole system working, perhaps.
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Jun 18, 2019 19:29
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Titans are the new rifters
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Jun 18, 2019 19:47
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Foehammer007 posted:Can I get eve online classic please I, too, want no warp to zero on gates and 24 hour max skill queues
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