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PinheadSlim posted:Despite playing a lot of Pathfinder I never really stuck around the communities long enough to hear good or bad about Paizo. What did they do? Pretty much a standard pretends-to-be-woke company that's just so confused why you want them to stop associating with bad actors
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Jun 18, 2019 20:12
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Leperflesh posted:modiphius? are they bad? There have been several freelancers who've said their rates are poo poo or their payment terms are poo poo. This might be because of their Ponzi scheme style bouncing from Kickstarter to Kickstarter and the multiple lies to backers about when to expect their stuff. That said they're supposedly better now. They're on my 'will never buy from ' list but that's because of the CEO/ owner lying too many times. They have become the most significant publisher of multiple euro RPGs and seem to be doing better now. So as much as I think the owner is a lying shithead they as a company are less dishonest than they were a couple of years ago.
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PinheadSlim posted:Despite playing a lot of Pathfinder I never really stuck around the communities long enough to hear good or bad about Paizo. What did they do?
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Jun 18, 2019 20:25
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Atlas is pretty good. Pelgrane are also fairly stand-up. People usually only say nice things about Evil Hat.
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Jun 18, 2019 20:30
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dwarf74 posted:They're the fakest of fake allies.
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Jimbozig posted:The lesson I've learned from this thread? Don't buy any RPGs from major companies in the business. Stick to indies. I mean, yeah. Save your money and give it to small publishers and indie writers. Rand Brittain posted:Atlas is pretty good. Pelgrane are also fairly stand-up. People usually only say nice things about Evil Hat. I will second Atlas and Pelgrane Press. Pelgrane has worked to back up their rhetoric by hiring more women and PoC. They've put out several interesting collections of storygames focused around under-represented stories and viewpoints.
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On the other hand, Atlas is the house of choice for OTE 2 which is Tweet. They have no fault in Tweet's bullshit, but if they publish more from him I'll be unhappy.
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dwarf74 posted:They're the fakest of fake allies. Darwinism posted:Pretty much a standard pretends-to-be-woke company that's just so confused why you want them to stop associating with bad actors oof, that always sucks to hear. Guess I'll stick to out of print games from the 80s made by small teams of cool caffeine addicts
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Jun 18, 2019 21:08
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PinheadSlim posted:Despite playing a lot of Pathfinder I never really stuck around the communities long enough to hear good or bad about Paizo. What did they do? https://archive.fo/VFg5u
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Jun 18, 2019 21:17
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dwarf74 posted:They're the fakest of fake allies. But, come on, they had a transgender dwarf. That's worth like fifteen ally points!
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Jun 18, 2019 21:18
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That whole article is horrifying quote:Reminder, in this context: the yearly Paizo message to employees asking what to do if we got harassed, stalked, or assaulted by attendees: 
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Jun 18, 2019 21:21
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It sounds like Chaosium fell for a right-wing victim flop, like when conservatives claimed V for Vendetta was anti-Bush because of a character actually based on Hitler and Thatcher. Appeasing chuds is impossible, and trying is a mistake, but I don't know enough about this to cancel them yet.
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Jun 18, 2019 21:38
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Leperflesh posted:modiphius? are they bad? I've backed most of the projects they have put out, and with one very notable exception (Siege of the Citadel) I have gotten everything on time. Siege is a nasty outlier as the project is done and has shipped...maybe? It's not clear.
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Jun 18, 2019 21:39
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Siege base game shipped to the people who paid for two shipments. There is a tremendous amount of stuff in the Doomtrooper pledge, which exponentially delayed everybody else's. I'm waiting for mine too. What thread is the Call of Cthulhu stuff in? Unfiltered RPGsite is lain out like someone having simultaneous diarrhea and a stroke.
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FFG has not stepped in it that I know of, despite - or perhaps because - of a rep for being the most typically corporate & business oriented of the large game publishers.
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moths posted:Siege base game shipped to the people who paid for two shipments. There is a tremendous amount of stuff in the Doomtrooper pledge, which exponentially delayed everybody else's. I'm waiting for mine too. Was this diarrhea in front of a Chik-fil-A? If so, I know who did it.
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No this was the other consultant.
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Jun 18, 2019 21:58
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moths posted:Appeasing chuds is impossible, and trying is a mistake, but I don't know enough about this to cancel them yet. On the other hand, by this point it should be obvious what RPGSite is even to someone who just happens to stumble on them, doubly so if they go into Pundit's Own "Tangency poisoned RPGnet but this is different somehow" (the difference is all the naked racism and sexism). moths posted:What thread is the Call of Cthulhu stuff in? Unfiltered RPGsite is lain out like someone having simultaneous diarrhea and a stroke. It's in Pundit's Own Preserve or whatever, which is apparently inaccessible to unregistered users now, just like Tangency was villainous for doing but this time it's different. The thread has the adventure title in it, "Cold Fire" something or other.
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Yeah this was AFAIK my first visit to that site and JFC it's a trash heap. They're shrieking about Anita Sarkeesian in 2019? Dear Christ.
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FMguru posted:I still think Green Ronin takes the crown for greatest difference between their self-promoted Woke Good Ally status and their actual behavior. It was funny (it was not funny) when Pramas and company were all 'mmmhmmm I'm sitting back and drinking my TEA' over the stuff about Zak when their fabled 'timeline' that would validate them as not enabling C.A. "Eyes Blazing With An Intensity Some Call Alarming" Suleiman's sex pestery has yet to ever, you know, exist.
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Jun 18, 2019 23:28
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moths posted:Yeah this was AFAIK my first visit to that site and JFC it's a trash heap. They're shrieking about Anita Sarkeesian in 2019? Dear Christ. Hambly over at The Quartering is whipping up stuff about her again as well. She must have visibly existed recently and riled the gamergate chuds back up.
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Liquid Communism posted:Hambly over at The Quartering is whipping up stuff about her again as well. She must have visibly existed recently and riled the gamergate chuds back up. She recently tweeted at CDProjekt Red offering to consult on Cyberpunk 2077, due to their repeated sexism and transphobia. That's probably it.
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thefakenews posted:She recently tweeted at CDProjekt Red offering to consult on Cyberpunk 2077, due to their repeated sexism and transphobia. That's probably it. Ah, yes, that would whip up the gynophobic masses.
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thefakenews posted:She recently tweeted at CDProjekt Red offering to consult on Cyberpunk 2077, due to their repeated sexism and transphobia. That's probably it. That would honestly be a good start for them.
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They're probably just mad lately because she keeps on getting work and speaking opportunities in the game industry and they're just whining like a child.
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That Old Tree posted:It's in Pundit's Own Preserve or whatever, which is apparently inaccessible to unregistered users now, just like Tangency was villainous for doing but this time it's different. The thread has the adventure title in it, "Cold Fire" something or other. So a representative of Chaosium found a thread about a niche adventure from his company on a not-public section of a tiny right-wing tabletop RPG forum? That sounds like the sort of thing you'd only stumble across if you read that website regularly... Who was it anyway?
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Nuns with Guns posted:So a representative of Chaosium found a thread about a niche adventure from his company on a not-public section of a tiny right-wing tabletop RPG forum? That sounds like the sort of thing you'd only stumble across if you read that website regularly... quote:Hi all - His opener is worse in retrospect.
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.. Is he giving chuds permission to make the nazi stand-in villains instead representative of the democratic socialists they fear?
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moths posted:.. Is he giving chuds permission to make the nazi stand-in villains instead representative of the democratic socialists they fear? I mean it's a literal alt-right talking point that democratic socialists, democrats, socialists, etc are the REAL Nazis soooooo
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moths posted:.. Is he giving chuds permission to make the nazi stand-in villains instead representative of the democratic socialists they fear? They might well also be something he fears. Jeff Richard doesn't talk often about his personal life and political views, but the few times he has -- some years ago on old Glorantha mailing lists -- he spoke about being a Republican and voting for George W, as I recall.
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lmao that you can't identify which kind of populism is correct and which isn't
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Every time I want to give Trump voters even the slightest benefit of the doubt, they start pullling poo poo like this and I can't tell if they're unabashedly evil or irredeemably stupid. I know that it's both.
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Liquid Communism posted:Hambly over at The Quartering is whipping up stuff about her again as well. She must have visibly existed recently and riled the gamergate chuds back up. Oh hey, the same dude who was angry that a 16 year old girl in a cartoon show didn't have D cup breasts. Oh wait, he's also the dude who cyberstalked a female cosplayer until she left the Magic the Gathering fandom.
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moths posted:Every time I want to give Trump voters even the slightest benefit of the doubt, they start pullling poo poo like this and I can't tell if they're unabashedly evil or irredeemably stupid. The "this isn't political, we're not taking sides, they can stand in for whatever group you like" stuff isn't Trump voters, it's peak liberals.
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Lemon-Lime posted:The "this isn't political, we're not taking sides, they can stand in for whatever group you like" stuff isn't Trump voters, it's peak liberals. As for companies that do or do not do crimes, has Privateer done anything in this vein?
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On Chaosium I'm willing to extend them some slack because getting Chris Spivey onboard to a) do a revision of Harlem Unbound as part of the official CoC line and b) give some of their old material like Dead Man Stomp a tune-up to sort out the clumsy handling of race there feels like an important and more substantial step than a lot of the performative wokeness from others. Jeff going on theRPGsite is not a good look and his attempt to spin an obvious Nazi-parallel as "not actually Nazis" is weaksauce nonsense, but it's not enough to make me write off Chaosium as unsalvagable - just in need of a talking-to and an opportunity to course correct. Is there a good point of contact within Chaosium people could reach out to saying "Hey, engagement with the community etc. is all very well but are you aware that one of your people is expending energy trying to soothe the anxiety of upset Gamergaters over here?" that might get a suitable response.
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Nessus posted:Does this mean Republicans are the real liberals now or what, how does this work I think what's trying to be said is that it's a liberal idea to not want to commit to any one group as being the bad ones, and that you can stand-in any group that you want, and that it's valid either way. The (far) right would just directly target liberals, leftists, minorities, etc.
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Nessus posted:Does this mean Republicans are the real liberals now or what, how does this work I'm not using the term in the American sense. There are still some Republicans who claim to vote Republican purely because they care about "fiscal responsibility" while wanting to aggressively (but civilly) fence-sit. The aggressive fence-sitting isn't a symptom of Trump voters, it's a symptom of centrists. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Jun 19, 2019 |
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Warthur posted:On Chaosium I'm willing to extend them some slack because getting Chris Spivey onboard to a) do a revision of Harlem Unbound as part of the official CoC line and b) give some of their old material like Dead Man Stomp a tune-up to sort out the clumsy handling of race there feels like an important and more substantial step than a lot of the performative wokeness from others. It looks like they have some direct contact emails on their website here: https://www.chaosium.com/contact-us/ You can see if any of them are still active or responsive.
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