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spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Taintrunner posted:

oh yeah dude it’s awesome you could write a whole book about how the rank and file troops get ratfucked by capitalism

they privatized the mess hall and you get a stipend but it’s not enough to cover a full meal

Don't forget the on post housing is poo poo too. Certainly not worth the fact that the private corporation takes your entire BAH (around 1200 dollars) and gives you poo poo to live in.

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Raldikuk
Apr 7, 2006

I'm bad with money and I want that meatball!

Dr.Smasher posted:

It's good to know my dad's nickname for that place when he got drafted for Vietnam still works.

"The armpit of the country."

poo poo, I didn't realize they moved Ft Sill to Gary, IN

Solar Coaster
Sep 2, 2009

Bombadilillo posted:

A lot of tech bros are retiring at 35-40. But cause they are burnt out and loaded. Not cracking the code and retiring into near homlessness.

They are moving into outlying places and skyrocketing housing prices. Cause the come in and overbid in cash on houses.

Terrible for poors, great if you own a house already before the mass exodus of 2 years ago.

(This is all Seattle, bay area)

When I was in process of bidding for my house last year, we were bidding on two houses at the same time. One in Monroe and one in Lynnwood. The Lynnwood sellers really liked us, even wrote us a letter that they wanted to sell to us. On the day of accepting offers, someone showed up and dropped a cash offer, $50,000 over the asking price; and waived inspection.

I ended up getting into a bidding war for the Monroe place as well, but eventually landed it still within budget.

Such is life in the area now....

I look forward to seeing Amazon rape the housing prices market, even more so, on the eastside when they move to Bellevue. I've already long since been priced out of my hometown; it's stupid luck that I still got into a house at all.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009




https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wladimir-Putin-T-Shirt-Zombi-capitalism-made-in-USA-T-Shirt-S-XXXL-Harajuku-Tops-t/32936368420.html

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Shear Modulus posted:

is this a different event of the nro having some leftover satellites just lying around, that were ten years out of date by intelligence standards but way better than anything science gets to use, than this one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_National_Reconnaissance_Office_space_telescope_donation_to_NASA ? that got a lot of press when it happened

Nah those actually swapped hands, the ones I'm thinking of were definitely destroyed completely instead of being given to NASA, and it happened a bit longer ago. Though I can't seem to find an article now that those two satellites were given over cuz they're all that's showing up in the search results...

That's a great example of just how much money we spend on military crap though yeah.

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?


share z0ne/Baltic troll farm crossover lookin' good

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

That couple could buy a house with their savings and keep working and be more free than retired and renting for the rest of their lives.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Picnic Princess posted:

That couple could buy a house with their savings and keep working and be more free than retired and renting for the rest of their lives.

Work! Work! Work!

gently caress. It, I say they've got the right idea. They're gonna have a bad end tho, but good on em for trying.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK
e: wrong thread

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

Outrail posted:

Work! Work! Work!

gently caress. It, I say they've got the right idea. They're gonna have a bad end tho, but good on em for trying.

I'll just do whatever it takes to avoid giving a single cent to a landlord.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Nothing wrong with working if it's not totally demeaning (that's one hell of a catch, yeah). The few people I've knew who basically stopped for various reasons didn't do so well and not for the lack of money.

Often Abbreviated
Dec 19, 2017

1st Severia Tank Brigade
"Ghosts of Honcharivske"

Picnic Princess posted:

I'll just do whatever it takes to avoid giving a single cent to a landlord.

Article doesn't say that they're renting as far as I can see. Early retirement types usually try to own a place (though there's a permanent internecine conflict as to how aggressively you should pay off the mortgage) so I'd be surprised if their TINY 400 SQ FT!!!!! SO SMOL HOW FIT WOW incredibly normal-sized apartment was rented.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Often Abbreviated posted:

Article doesn't say that they're renting as far as I can see. Early retirement types usually try to own a place (though there's a permanent internecine conflict as to how aggressively you should pay off the mortgage) so I'd be surprised if their TINY 400 SQ FT!!!!! SO SMOL HOW FIT WOW incredibly normal-sized apartment was rented.

I thought "apartment" generally implied rented and once you own it it becomes a "condo" but I guess I always just sorta assumed that and am not going based on anything...

Also once they retire they're going to build a house in the Gulf Islands, which is a great idea on how to spend the very fixed amount of money you need to last 50 years, build a house on an island and hope climate change never ever destroys it.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Just cuz I want to underline the theme of the article,

quote:

Even though their generation has accrued record amount of personal debt, Williams and Rince believe that early retirement can be in reach for most young people — as long as they plan to live minimally, both in retirement and their working years.

quote:

"Celestian was working minimum wage at a grocery store and I was working at a warehouse. It was pretty bad. We were thinking: is this what our lives are going to be like?"

...

The pair embraced the challenge and soon found better-paying jobs.

Moral of the story: make more money

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

Remember that story a few months back about the hideous working conditions at a contractor doing moderation work for Facebook? There's a follow up about a different location:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/19/18681845/facebook-moderator-interviews-video-trauma-ptsd-cognizant-tampa

quote:

On the night of March 9th, 2018, Utley slumped over at his desk. Co-workers noticed that he was in distress when he began sliding out of his chair. Two of them began to perform CPR, but no defibrillator was available in the building. A manager called for an ambulance.

He died doing what he loved - looking at an endless parade of child porn and violence for a lovely wage on behalf of a giant corporation.

If you don't die there you can also look forward to getting your poo poo stolen, being sexually harrassed or taking bedbugs home with you.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

alphabettitouretti posted:

On the night of March 9th, 2018, Utley slumped over at his desk. Co-workers noticed that he was in distress when he began sliding out of his chair.

Mondays am I right?!?

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

I watched the tiny homes show for a while and like 50% of the people were buying tiny homes and putting them in their parents McMansion yards, like a granny flat.

So if you can buy it outright and never pay property tax (until your parents die) you might be good

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

According to goog there's two different Cognizant buildings in Tampa, I assume it's the one up in Carrolwood since my wife used to work around there and the buildings there are crummy, cheap, far away from the expensive downtown and pretty run-down, perfect for a lowest bid scummy contractor. If I'm right that means it's right next to an elementary school which is an... interesting site choice for a group charged with moderating child porn.

quote:

They described a filthy workplace in which they regularly find pubic hair and other bodily waste at their workstations.

How does the pubic hair get there :psyduck:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

quote:

Speagle vividly recalls the first video he saw in his new assignment. Two teenagers spot an iguana on the ground, and one picks it up by the tail. A third teenager films what happens next: the teen holding the iguana begins smashing it onto the street. “They beat the living poo poo out of this thing,” Speagle told me, as tears welled up in his eyes. “The iguana was screaming and crying. And they didn’t stop until the thing was a bloody pulp.”

Under the policy, the video was allowed to remain on Facebook. A manager told him that by leaving the video online, authorities would be able to catch the perpetrators. But as the weeks went on, the video continued to reappear in his queue, and Speagle realized that police were unlikely to look into the case.

How else are the cops going to see it so they can laugh at it and link it around catch the guy unless we leave it up and let it get re-posted over and over???

:thumbsup:

IAMKOREA
Apr 21, 2007
The early retirement people obviously have a ton of priveledge but for the most part they are focused on being frugal and opting out of the consumerism capitalism pushes on us. On the other hand their strategy is to invest all their savings in the stock market and withdraw 4 percent per year indefinitely (supposedly this is possible with 95 percent confidence or something) so they rely on numbers going up up up just like the rest of the parasitic class...

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

Shame Boy posted:

How does the pubic hair get there :psyduck:

huh wonder what all this cum is doing by the dedicated child porn and snuff video watching station

also if that couple’s really got their retirement banked on stock investments then i can’t wait for the inevitable followup article a few years from now

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


IAMKOREA posted:

The early retirement people obviously have a ton of priveledge but for the most part they are focused on being frugal and opting out of the consumerism capitalism pushes on us. On the other hand their strategy is to invest all their savings in the stock market and withdraw 4 percent per year indefinitely (supposedly this is possible with 95 percent confidence or something) so they rely on numbers going up up up just like the rest of the parasitic class...

They also want to increase their retirement savings 300K in the next 3 years which is incredibly hard for the average millennial to do, if not outright impossible.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

Fried Watermelon posted:

They also want to increase their retirement savings 300K in the next 3 years which is incredibly hard for the average millennial to do, if not outright impossible.

They spend $10k a year on travel, which means they have to be pulling in at least $75-$80k gross each, right? Yeah, not really an option for most millenials.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Fried Watermelon posted:

They also want to increase their retirement savings 300K in the next 3 years which is incredibly hard for the average millennial to do, if not outright impossible.

just earn more money like they did

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
the secret to retiring early is always 'make twice as much as your peers, give up kids and recreation and everything' and it's like, what's the loving point. I hate working but not enough to give up everything else in my life so I dont have to

IAMKOREA
Apr 21, 2007

Fried Watermelon posted:

They also want to increase their retirement savings 300K in the next 3 years which is incredibly hard for the average millennial to do, if not outright impossible.

Keep in mind that they have something like 400,000 invested at the moment, so as long as numbers go up, it will return something like 11 percent per year. So they really need to save 66,000 per year, and that's mostly going to be untaxed money going into 401ks/iras/hsas. It's possible for some millenials to save that much. Definitely not the average millennial.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Dr. Killjoy posted:

huh wonder what all this cum is doing by the dedicated child porn and snuff video watching station


I was kinda hoping the answer would just be "people in the office were loving all the time" which is what it was the last time one of these had an investigative journalist show up

larper
Apr 9, 2019

Eat This Glob posted:

theres nothing to fear, friend. in addition to making unstoppable hypersonic weapons, Raytheon is also making laser weapons to...stop the weapons they say are unstoppable.

i write about that poo poo for a living. the defense industry is the greatest grift pulled on the American people. just unknown piles of cash burned at the alter of make work programs for congressional districts in the same of security. at least honest to God make work programs from the great depression at least resulted in buildings that are still standing, public arts projects still on display, and rural areas brought into the 20th century.

Its a money firehose pointed directly into a furnace

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

just earn more money like they did

IAMKOREA posted:

Keep in mind that they have something like 400,000 invested at the moment, so as long as numbers go up, it will return something like 11 percent per year. So they really need to save 66,000 per year, and that's mostly going to be untaxed money going into 401ks/iras/hsas. It's possible for some millenials to save that much. Definitely not the average millennial.


The other secret that I don't think everyone's catching is "live in Canada where you don't have to worry about a hospital bill wiping out your entire bank account"

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan
If your content to retire at 35 with that kind of money then you’ve decided you’ll never have kids, which is fine but not something that most people of child bearing age would say.

I otoh plan to drop dead at my desk in 50 years, where ever that might be.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

The Xkdc Larper posted:

Its a money firehose pointed directly into a furnace

No it's this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnX-D4kkPOQ

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA

The Nastier Nate posted:

I otoh plan to drop dead at my desk in 50 years, where ever that might be.
Same, but the cooler of whatever restaurant I'm at then.

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

The Nastier Nate posted:

I otoh plan to drop dead at my desk in 50 years, where ever that might be.

How do you feel about child porn, lizard torture, and pubes on your desk? Because I heard about a place that may be perfect for you.

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

IAMKOREA posted:

The early retirement people obviously have a ton of priveledge but for the most part they are focused on being frugal and opting out of the consumerism capitalism pushes on us. On the other hand their strategy is to invest all their savings in the stock market and withdraw 4 percent per year indefinitely (supposedly this is possible with 95 percent confidence or something) so they rely on numbers going up up up just like the rest of the parasitic class...

I'm just going to leave this here: https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-77-frugality-fables-and-the-poor-shaming-grift-of-financial-advice-journalism

IAMKOREA
Apr 21, 2007

This looks good gonna check it out.

Frugality advice is mindblowingly awesome if you're earning over 100,000 per year. Oh, you mean if I don't lease an M3 and put a bunch of pottery barn furniture on credit I can save enough to tell my boss to gently caress off if I want to? But for everyone else it is just absurd.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

World Famous W posted:

Same, but the cooler of whatever restaurant I'm at then.

back in my restaurant days i was always the first one to volunteer to get anything for anyone out of the walk-in because it's the closest thing you get to a minute of refuge

that's where I'd wanna go out if i still worked at one, sitting on top of a box of frozen jalapeno poppers, posting trump in c-spam

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Wasabi the J posted:

Yes and in 98-99, Cheney the DOD froze out Dyncorp for other contracts and then set up Halliburton subsidiary company KBR with the changed contracts.

Cheney resigned as CEO of Halliburton on July 25, 2000. As vice president, he argued that this step removed any conflict of interest. Cheney's net worth, estimated to be between $19 million and $86 million, is largely derived from his post at Halliburton. His 2006 gross joint income with his wife was nearly $8.82 million.

lol at making near 8 figures INCOME a year jesus gently caress

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Bombadilillo posted:

A lot of tech bros are retiring at 35-40. But cause they are burnt out and loaded. Not cracking the code and retiring into near homlessness.

They are moving into outlying places and skyrocketing housing prices. Cause the come in and overbid in cash on houses.

Terrible for poors, great if you own a house already before the mass exodus of 2 years ago.

(This is all Seattle, bay area)

early retired tech bros are the most lost souls I have ever met, completely swallowed in existential abyss, the meaninglessness of life laid bare, spanning decades in front of them. But also nice biannual vacations to europe and golf

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

IAMKOREA posted:

The early retirement people obviously have a ton of priveledge but for the most part they are focused on being frugal and opting out of the consumerism capitalism pushes on us. On the other hand their strategy is to invest all their savings in the stock market and withdraw 4 percent per year indefinitely (supposedly this is possible with 95 percent confidence or something) so they rely on numbers going up up up just like the rest of the parasitic class...

the people who live off of stocks but don't want any kind of government handout (free school, education etc) are so incredible to me.

And yeah if you can get 2-3 mil into mutual funds, bonds etc you're pretty set for retirement. anyone with net worth above that is living LAVISHly in the US.

If you have 100,000,000 you can spend several million each year and still end up in the green, all just for having money...

If a form of luxury communism is society just giving you whatever you want when you want it for no work then the 1% and up live exactly that way. No work, no contribution, just a bank account that says a number big enough for you to take whatever you want.

Modest Mao has issued a correction as of 22:19 on Jun 19, 2019

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got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Modest Mao posted:

early retired tech bros are the most lost souls I have ever met, completely swallowed in existential abyss, the meaninglessness of life laid bare, spanning decades in front of them. But also nice biannual vacations to europe and golf

i already have that without having the money to to retire
or having the vacations or golf

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