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The Unlife Aquatic posted:The thing that really makes you wonder is how he portrays himself when he's in his own film (Red Zone Cuba). Why was he so utterly unflattering to himself? Did he think it was something people wanted to see? Or did he think he was being a badass? The only surety is all of the possible answers will make you feel dirty. I think Coleman Francis was depressed.
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I've said it before, I still contend that Francis came up with the last line first ("Griffin ran all the way to hell... with a penny, and a broken cigarette."), and then wrote the script to match.
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If the FBI discovered that Coleman Francis was secretly a serial killer, I would not be at all surprised.
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Senior Woodchuck posted:If the FBI discovered that Coleman Francis was secretly a serial killer, I would not be at all surprised. 
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dentist toy box posted:I think Coleman Francis was depressed. He would love to be in the current world what with all the coffee shops and such.
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I’m Cherokee Jack.
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i wonder what his creative output would have been like had he a larger budget and any idea how to make a movie. i don't know what it is about coleman francis, i'm just fascinated by the guy, possibly because i'm a suicidal depressive myself. he was clearly trying to say something but WHAT the gently caress was he trying to say?
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bad posts ahead!!! posted:WHAT the gently caress was he trying to say? TL posted:I’m Cherokee Jack.
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no, YOU shove off
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Flag on the Moon. How did it get there?
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They should set a place for Eraserhead.
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Thrill as Coleman Francis's lovely kids dump soda on someone's pigs!
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I am the dark spector of food... I sensed there was mail
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The pie doesn't make you want to kill yourself, want some?
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Hey, are there any other MST3Ks like Rocket Attack USA that riff on Cold War propaganda? Falling Down is the centerpiece of my next movie night and I thought it’d be cool to screen something like that beforehand (our movie nights are long). EDIT: I’ll also take Rifftrax suggestions.
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There's Invasion USA. And I feel that Space Children has plenty of that cold war paranoia with bonus dumb aliens.
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The Starfighters doesn't directly reference the Cold War, but it is essentially a Cold War-era Air Force recruitment film masquerading as a feature film. The Violent Years is a teen delinquency-scare film with the second act twist that the delinquents are unknowingly working for Russian spies, so that sort of counts. Can't thing of anything as blatant as the Rocket Attack and Invasion USAs, though. Paper Kaiju fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Jun 20, 2019 |
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rydiafan posted:Red Zone Cuba? The only thing Red Zone Cuba is propaganda for is nihilism.
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DivisionPost posted:Hey, are there any other MST3Ks like Rocket Attack USA that riff on Cold War propaganda? Falling Down is the centerpiece of my next movie night and I thought it’d be cool to screen something like that beforehand (our movie nights are long). RiffTrax did Duck and Cover if you wanted a short.
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Paper Kaiju posted:The Starfighters doesn't directly reference the Cold War, but it is essentially a Cold War-era Air Force recruitment film masquerading as a feature film. Between the Violent Years, High School Big Shot, I Accuse My Parents, Teenage Crime Wave and others I'm probably forgetting, I wonder what the hell was going on in the fifties that made parents so terrified of their children.
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Probably the Korean War. With so many men overseas, people worried that without their fathers around, children were going rudderless and getting into trouble. They had the same fears during the 40's. But IIRC, any uptick in juvenile delinquency was more perception and media hype than reality. Or it was comic books' fault. (I just read The Ten-Cent Plague a few weeks ago. Good book!) Keromaru5 fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jun 20, 2019 |
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S Enters Korean Wa! 
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I'd also chalk it up to what a deeply reactionary time the 50s was. Fear of youth was bound up with this paranoid idea of the future that would flatten and destroy America.
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DivisionPost posted:Hey, are there any other MST3Ks like Rocket Attack USA that riff on Cold War propaganda? Falling Down is the centerpiece of my next movie night and I thought it’d be cool to screen something like that beforehand (our movie nights are long). Invasion USA is a treat. I think it was supposed to be a satire, but boy howdy, it's so, so dumb. Like, a fascist first grader wrote it. SolarFire2 posted:Between the Violent Years, High School Big Shot, I Accuse My Parents, Teenage Crime Wave and others I'm probably forgetting, I wonder what the hell was going on in the fifties that made parents so terrified of their children. As depressing as the Coleman Francis troika is, High School Big Shot is so relentlessly depressing, misogynistic, and hateful. It's just the worst. Everyone but the colorful safe-cracker is awful.
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SolarFire2 posted:Between the Violent Years, High School Big Shot, I Accuse My Parents, Teenage Crime Wave and others I'm probably forgetting, I wonder what the hell was going on in the fifties that made parents so terrified of their children. Aw, they should have known a cherubic short-order cook would have come along and sorted things out.
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how's the german expressionist date going?
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SolarFire2 posted:Between the Violent Years, High School Big Shot, I Accuse My Parents, Teenage Crime Wave and others I'm probably forgetting, I wonder what the hell was going on in the fifties that made parents so terrified of their children. Fear of the new. Teenagers had just been invented.
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Failson posted:As depressing as the Coleman Francis troika is, High School Big Shot is so relentlessly depressing, misogynistic, and hateful. It's just the worst. Everyone but the colorful safe-cracker is awful. And the safe cracker is basically Wimpy of Popeye fame. There were no winners in this nightmare.
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Failson posted:
Fact - the lead in the film died before the movie was released. It was the final film he worked on. You know, in case you didn't want the movie to be any more depressing.
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what's more, he was in a car accident and his body wasn't found until weeks later, at the bottom of a ravine i always thought he was a really good actor in bigshot. such a drat shame.
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Wow. I'm going to have to watch The Girl In Lovers Lane to cheer myself up.
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Senior Woodchuck posted:Fear of the new. Teenagers had just been invented. Yeah. Teenager was barely even a word before the 50s, let alone a concept.
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:I'd also chalk it up to what a deeply reactionary time the 50s was. Fear of youth was bound up with this paranoid idea of the future that would flatten and destroy America. Hey, like now, I guess. (Teenagers : 1950's :: Millennials : 2010's) Sort of related: I just watched Joel's TV Wheel last night, for the first time in a while. I'd forgotten what a cool concept that was, but man, did some of those sketches just not hold up ("KISS in the Beginning" and "Vick Lawston's House of 1000 Mysteries" are still gold, though). (I'd post the video, but the only continuous version I could find on YouTube was really lousy quality and had Joel's overly-pedantic explanation of the "X-Box" concept tacked on to pad for commercial time  )
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Cemetry Gator posted:Fact - the lead in the film died before the movie was released. It was the final film he worked on. Yeeeesh. I had no idea. And speaking of depressing! Things didn't end well for the director of Carnival Magic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Adamson#Death
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Failson posted:Yeeeesh. I had no idea. well this makes their jokes about sequels and the "carnival magic cinematic universe" over the end credits a little bleak
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bad posts ahead!!! posted:well this makes their jokes about sequels and the "carnival magic cinematic universe" over the end credits a little bleak I'm sure that More Carnival Magic exists. I can hear the chimp voiceover coming from under the floorboards.
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Failson posted:Yeeeesh. I had no idea. His last act of Carnival Magic was a disappearing act!  ( )
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