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theironjef posted:I dunno, something else. It'll be nice to not think about D&D anymore. Have you done the white cover OD&D? I can't remember. It's a really interesting read, though, from a historical perspective.
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Jun 20, 2019 03:45
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What was being referred to was a time when Paizo was running a cross-promotion with Kingdom Death. Since Jessica Price was basically the main point of contact a number of people had with Paizo, people went to her going "wtf". She flipped out on them-- how dare they come to her about this, etc, this was a few years ago, I don't remember what all exactly she was saying. IIRC she was loosely implying that if she tried to rock the boat on this she'd be endangering her job; I kind of doubted that angle at the time since she'd previously gone to bat for the game the last time the subject had come up (though I don't actually doubt that if she'd made a thing of it she would have caught massive poo poo, especially knowing what we know now about Paizo). All that said it is definitely an incident that soured a number of people on her personally. I don't much like her myself, because I was there for this! However, bringing it up out of basically nowhere out of context is massively disingenuous; none of the above invalidates that she's absolutely gotten a raw deal, both in tabletop and out, and she's brought a number of issues to light that would have continued to just be the usual missing stair bullshit. So yeah. That particular incident is in no way relevant to anything other than a small group of people as anything other than perhaps a canary in the coal mine that is Paizo itself. Also, taking that as proof that she was somehow lying about not seeing her firing coming is absolute nonsense-- you can absolutely know that if you were to do something it would have negative consequences while at the same time not seeing other negative consequences coming. Like that's fuckin flimsy, man.
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Jun 20, 2019 04:03
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Xiahou Dun posted:I will also happily buy you a copy of The Spire. More people should be buying, talking about, and playing Spire. Strata posted:A Black Guard sergeant removes their helm to show that, under their iridescent black armour, their skin is crawling with beetles bearing carapaces of the same colour. Rumour has it that the armour itself is just several huge beetles trained to sit very still.
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Jun 20, 2019 04:09
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Can confirm Spire is a real good game for playing a holy agent of terrifying (but loving) spider peace.
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Jun 20, 2019 04:10
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Hostile V posted:Pathfinder:
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dwarf74 posted:This, unironically, I live for your frothing rage at poo poo game design. Unless you really get into the weeds, I feel like PF is too similar to 3.5 to be an interesting new subject.
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Jun 20, 2019 05:25
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do all the bullshit ways to die in old modules like Palace of the Silver Princess (levels 1~3) where a snake hiding in some towels can blind you permanently or kill you.
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Jun 20, 2019 05:37
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theironjef posted:I dunno, something else. It'll be nice to not think about D&D anymore. You could go on with making every 25th episode some kind of “ If it’s not enough to fill an entire episode with, do 2-3 at a time like you did in that old episode where you talked about sourcebooks for Haven and that terrible Star Fleet game. You obviously wouldn’t need to make characters afterwards, so the bonus content should just be 30 minutes of you reading choice parts of the 1E DMG in various character voices.
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Jun 20, 2019 06:04
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I think you should talk about things that you like.
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Jun 20, 2019 06:06
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dwarf74 posted:This, unironically, I live for your frothing rage at poo poo game design. In that case, Dangerous Journeys:Mythus. Gary Gygax's very own Fantasy Heartbreaker is sufficiently D&D adjacent, and so very, very poorly designed.
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Jun 20, 2019 07:25
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Night10194 posted:Can confirm Spire is a real good game for playing a holy agent of terrifying (but loving) spider peace. Obligatory plug for my F&F review of it. Really need to get my arse in gear to go through Strata, and probably the rest of Black Magic past the classes.
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Thranguy posted:In that case, Dangerous Journeys:Mythus. Gary Gygax's very own Fantasy Heartbreaker is sufficiently D&D adjacent, and so very, very poorly designed.
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Jun 20, 2019 07:32
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My #175 pitch for the pile (though most of the ideas people have pitched are also good): just do D&D 6th Edition. No, it won't have come out by then - the episode is just the two of you improvising a review of a fake edition of the game, like with the Duckman RPG, along with improvising the tale of the 5E->6E edition wars and making up fake controversies surrounding its publication. (You know, like Zak S. making GBS threads his pants at Chik-fil-A on the last day of Gen Con 2017, only fake.)
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I'd love to hear a review of how 6th edition actually got things right, even if you just do it as an April Fool.
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Jun 20, 2019 14:55
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Thranguy posted:In that case, Dangerous Journeys:Mythus. Gary Gygax's very own Fantasy Heartbreaker is sufficiently D&D adjacent, and so very, very poorly designed. I am also voting for my personal favorite, Avalon Hill's spreadsheet masterpiece, Powers & Perils. (It genuinely has some compelling weirdness to it, for what it's worth, and the system once you get past chargen seems decently workable.)
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Jun 20, 2019 14:58
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The more I dive into Sparked by the Resistance, the more I incorporate everything about Blades in the Dark. Spire's world is cooler, but more importantly, the core mechanic is just so much loving better.
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CitizenKeen posted:The more I dive into Sparked by the Resistance, the more I incorporate everything about Blades in the Dark. Are there any good Sparked games out yet?
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Jun 20, 2019 15:31
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Facade gets spoken of highly, but the demo is a different game entirely, and I haven't bought the full version, so I can't speak to it personally. Ascendancy is really good as incomplete Google Docs games go.
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Jun 20, 2019 15:55
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dwarf74 posted:oh god that's a great one.
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Jun 20, 2019 15:58
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175? GURPS maybe? I like the Spire setting but can’t see it being much of a system mastery episode when there’s not much to complain about. Unless they’re going to lawyer the setting which is a good way to get hated.
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Jun 20, 2019 16:05
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FMguru posted:P&P is a perfect example of why games need developers. I'm sure the whole thing made perfect sense to the designer, but its a completely baffling nonsense mess to anyone who isn't him. It's a real heartbreaker - it's clear he had a vision for what he wanted (and it wasn't just "AD&D plus a decade of my group's house rules"), and he put a lot of work and effort into it, it's just incredibly badly communicated. I got it at a Toys R Us back in the 80's and it is the game I've been fascinated with the longest, that I have still never played.
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Jun 20, 2019 16:08
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LazyAngel posted:Obligatory plug for my F&F review of it. Really need to get my arse in gear to go through Strata, and probably the rest of Black Magic past the classes. Strata is good so far. The two new classes are cool as hell and the setting stuff is full of groovy weirdness. Now I just need to get through the adventures, pick a couple I want to run and start recruiting.
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The real question I have about Zak S making GBS threads his pants at Chik-fil-a on the last day of GenCon '17 isn't whether or not he actually poo poo his pants, but rather how and why he was IN a Chik-Fil-A on the last day of GenCon '17 which was a Sunday and thus a day when Chik-Fil-A is always closed by corporate mandate?
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Jun 20, 2019 17:16
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FMguru posted:P&P is a perfect example of why games need developers. I'm sure the whole thing made perfect sense to the designer, but its a completely baffling nonsense mess to anyone who isn't him. It's a real heartbreaker - it's clear he had a vision for what he wanted (and it wasn't just "AD&D plus a decade of my group's house rules"), and he put a lot of work and effort into it, it's just incredibly badly communicated.
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I assume he was trying to get in (to use the bathroom) but was too stupid to know they're closed and then diarrhea just happened.
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Jun 20, 2019 17:22
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EdsTeioh posted:The real question I have about Zak S making GBS threads his pants at Chik-fil-a on the last day of GenCon '17 isn't whether or not he actually poo poo his pants, but rather how and why he was IN a Chik-Fil-A on the last day of GenCon '17 which was a Sunday and thus a day when Chik-Fil-A is always closed by corporate mandate?
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Jun 20, 2019 17:26
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EdsTeioh posted:The real question I have about Zak S making GBS threads his pants at Chik-fil-a on the last day of GenCon '17 isn't whether or not he actually poo poo his pants, but rather how and why he was IN a Chik-Fil-A on the last day of GenCon '17 which was a Sunday and thus a day when Chik-Fil-A is always closed by corporate mandate?
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Jun 20, 2019 17:29
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Halloween Jack posted:When they heard about all the hard work he's done on behalf of people who think women should live in terror and slavery, they opened just for him.  Warthur posted:Did he poo poo his pants in Chik-fil-a, which would imply he got inside the store somehow (perhaps partaking in a secret "chicken lock-in" party and stuffing himself with chicken direct from the fryer), or merely at Chik-fil-a, which would imply he was just in the general vicinity (perhaps desperately pounding on the door demanding that they let him use the bathroom). I'm not exactly sure of the context of the pants making GBS threads which happened to Zak S on the last day of GenCon '17 but I do wish to know more of these secret chicken lock-ins.
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EdsTeioh posted:I'm not exactly sure of the context of the pants making GBS threads which happened to Zak S on the last day of GenCon '17 but I do wish to know more of these secret chicken lock-ins.
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Warthur posted:I mean, it's like a pub lock-in, except after drinking alcohol well past trading hours are done you eat chicken... Oh, I got that, I just want to know how to get INTO one of these magical events. You got an in?
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yo I stopped following this thread for a bit and I just now noticed the title change did zak s really poo poo himself please say yes
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paradoxGentleman posted:yo I stopped following this thread for a bit and I just now noticed the title change
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Jun 20, 2019 18:20
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Zak S has not signed an affidavit swearing under penalty of perjury that he did not poo poo his pants on the last day of GenCon '17.
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Jun 20, 2019 18:35
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Nobody has come forward with a scripted display of solidarity to vouch for him, either.
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Jun 20, 2019 18:38
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Warthur posted:Early Chivalry & Sorcery is like that - 2nd edition is very clearly tuned up as a result of feedback from actual play, and in addition does a (somewhat) better job of communicating how the game was expected to be played to begin with, whereas 1st edition is very clearly a product of Backhaus and Simbalist's very idiosyncratic interpretation of how fantasy campaigns worked which didn't necessarily reflect general practice at the time (or now). A whole lot of C&S makes a lot more sense when read in the context of OD&D too. Every little detail is an adaption, "fix", or addition to OD&D.
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Jun 20, 2019 18:40
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a System Mastery on just the 4th Ed Essentials would be hilarious.
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LatwPIAT posted:A whole lot of C&S makes a lot more sense when read in the context of OD&D too. Every little detail is an adaption, "fix", or addition to OD&D. C&S is interesting because it has many of the signs of a fantasy heartbreaker, but it also has a clear vision of what it wants to be, namely an SCA-specific version of D&D, with a more detailed and "realistic" combat system (based on experience in SCA melees and bouts) and a more specific and accurate Medieval European setting of the sort familiar to SCA members (instead of D&D's lightly implied mishmash of Vance and Lieber and Moorcock and Howard and Tolkien and etc)
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Mechayahiko posted:a System Mastery on just the 4th Ed Essentials would be hilarious. "Welcome to 5 different wizard classes and their hangers on."
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